No-calls of Dame being fouled must stop!

[swish3]

There is no way that in this Denver Game 3 Dame should not have at least his average 7 FTA!

And Nurk, CJ, and Norm should have FTA that should have added another 14 FTA to make up the FTA deficit.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Lillard leads the league in FT attempts this post season. He is averaging 11 attempts per game. That is 1.5 more per game than the second best and 6 MORE per game than the top Nuggets player in Jokic

 

[bigbailes]

The refs did not lose the game for the Blazers lost night, they just upped the difficulty level. The touch fouls Nurk got called for on his 4th/5th were just stupid, both by him and the refs. That said Portland's lack of 3pt shooting and inability to guard the arc is what cost them the game and gave HCA back to the Nuggets. Doesn't matter now though, on to game 4!

 

[Chris Craig]

Lillard leads the league in FT attempts this post season. He is averaging 11 attempts per game. That is 1.5 more per game than the second best and 6 MORE per game than the top Nuggets player in Jokic

Yet he only got 2 last night

 

[Chris Craig]

Get used to it

 

[Natebishop3]

The part that pisses me off is that I have been watching players of similar caliber get ridiculous calls my entire life, but not Dame.

Watch how the refs treat Anthony Davis and then tell me that Dame gets the same treatment. The game is rigged and for once I want it to be rigged in our favor dammit!

 

[B-Roy]

The part that pisses me off is that I have been watching players of similar caliber get ridiculous calls my entire life, but not Dame.

Watch how the refs treat Anthony Davis and then tell me that Dame gets the same treatment. The game is rigged and for once I want it to be rigged in our favor dammit!

Pretty sure every fan base thinks this about their stars.

The reffing was pretty awful last night, but on a different night it may have favored the Blazers.

Will say that they didn’t really help themselves last night either.

 

[Natebishop3]

Pretty sure every fan base thinks this about their stars.

The reffing was pretty awful last night, but on a different night it may have favored the Blazers.

Will say that they didn’t really help themselves last night either.

The thing is that I don't like how the refs allow teams to play Dame really physically on defense, but a guy like Anthony Davis can't be touched.

 

[B-Roy]

FTA % Usage is free throw attempts divided by usage.

Usage I arbitrary made up to roughly try to correlate with what I thought would drive getting free throws. All normal basketball events such as rebound, steal, assist, blocked shot get one usage count. Shots get two. Shots at the rim get 4. It’s arbitrary but all players use the same formula and any usage stat will be arbitrary. I could have just done free throws divided by shots but activity besides shots can generate fouls and free throws. Also clearly shots at the rim are more likely to generate free throws than shots. So I count all activity but count shots 2x and shots at the rim 4x.

My data source is the NBA stats API where I wrote an application that lets me query event by event.

My graphing is just Excel.

What’s your day job? I remember messing around with the stats API a few years back and it kept limiting my calls. Maybe they’ve made it better.

 

[B-Roy]

The thing is that I don't like how the refs allow teams to play Dame really physically on defense, but a guy like Anthony Davis can't be touched.

Pretty sure there are plenty of games where Davis gets knocked around the whole game with no fouls. At least if you go by Lakers forums.

 

[Natebishop3]

Pretty sure there are plenty of games where Davis gets knocked around the whole game with no fouls. At least if you go by Lakers forums.

Honestly, I try to watch the Lakers as little as possible. Only when we play them really.

 

[THE HCP]

Pretty sure there are plenty of games where Davis gets knocked around the whole game with no fouls. At least if you go by Lakers forums.

In my opinion, it tends to even itself out. I’ve had the NBA LeaguePass going on 20 years and watch a few games a night...... Believe it or not call DO go both ways. I watch all the Laker games and it’s safe to say LeBron and AD get fouled every time they take it to the hole, so it might seem like they get favorable calls. But shit, they get double teamed and hacked all game long.
Dame has definitely been getting those CP3 type superstar calls these past few years.

 

[B-Roy]

In my opinion, it tends to even itself out. I’ve had the NBA LeaguePass going on 20 years and watch a few games a night...... Believe it or not call DO go both ways. I watch all the Laker games and it’s safe to say LeBron and AD get fouled every time they take it to the hole, so it might seem like they get favorable calls. But shit, they get double teamed and hacked all game long.
Dame has definitely been getting those CP3 type superstar calls these past few years.

Agree. Last night was definitely bad against us, but I’ve seen nights where Dame gets 10+ free throws on mostly touch fouls. It is what it is.

 

[THE HCP]

I mean this is pretty obvious and I tell my kids this.....it’s on the athletes to get a feel for the refs and how they are going to call it. This applies to all levels of sports. If they are going to call it tight, you better adjust.

 

[Natebishop3]

I mean this is pretty obvious and I tell my kids this.....it’s on the athletes to get a feel for the refs and how they are going to call it. This applies to all levels of sports. If they are going to call it tight, you better adjust.

Then we need to remove the human element. I would rather have robots ref the game and have it evenly called every single time rather than have some douchebag ref who decides he's the god of the court.

 

[THE HCP]

Then we need to remove the human element. I would rather have robots ref the game and have it evenly called every single time rather than have some douchebag ref who decides he's the god of the court.

But the games must go on until then.

 

[bobf]

What’s your day job? I remember messing around with the stats API a few years back and it kept limiting my calls. Maybe they’ve made it better.

I'm a software developer - Windows apps in C# and SQL.

I download each game into a custom database then after that I don't have to deal with the API. I've run into getting throttled on API calls when downloading. Once it gets frozen, no calls will work for about 5-10 minutes it seems.

My main problem is that a lot of their data is not robust and not structured well. Like there is no indicator whether a rebound is offensive or defensive. At first glance it seems easy to determine by just looking at the last shot and seeing if the rebounder and shooter are on the same team. But no, when events occur within the same second they are often out of order. Like Rebound, Rebound, Shot, Shot... when it should be Shot Rebound Shot Rebound. Without knowing if a rebound is offensive or defensive, it's hard to group events into possessions. Also it's hard to determine who is on the floor with 100% accuracy because they don't tell you the lineup at the start of the period and even if they did, substitution events are sometimes missing or wrong. So I waste a lot of time trying to find ways around these things.

 

[B-Roy]

I'm a software developer - Windows apps in C# and SQL.

I download each game into a custom database then after that I don't have to deal with the API. I've run into getting throttled on API calls when downloading. Once it gets frozen, no calls will work for about 5-10 minutes it seems.

My main problem is that a lot of their data is not robust and not structured well. Like there is no indicator whether a rebound is offensive or defensive. At first glance it seems easy to determine by just looking at the last shot and seeing if the rebounder and shooter are on the same team. But no, when events occur within the same second they are often out of order. Like Rebound, Rebound, Shot, Shot... when it should be Shot Rebound Shot Rebound. Without knowing if a rebound is offensive or defensive, it's hard to group events into possessions. Also it's hard to determine who is on the floor with 100% accuracy because they don't tell you the lineup at the start of the period and even if they did, substitution events are sometimes missing or wrong. So I waste a lot of time trying to find ways around these things.

I guess that's why people pay for second spectrum! Nobody likes cleaning and building data pipelines.

 

[swish3]

The inconsistent fouls called against the Blazers and the Nuggets denied us the comeback win that should have resulted from Dame playing a playoff game, including scoring 55 points with 12 swish3s, and scoring 14 points in 6 of 8 shooting in the OT. Dame was fouled on the swish3 shot at the end of the 1st OT, as well as other times in the game, while Jokic even got fouls called for touching his shirt. The fouls called for moving screens were inconsistent and arbitrary, except that they went against the Blazers, in particular Nurk's 5th foul. Let's demand NBA Professional officiating.

For Denver Games 6 and 7, there needs to be consistency and accuracy by the Officials and the Blazers can win!