No Deals at the Deadline Reaction Thread (Merged)

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B-Roy said:
To the deal. To match salaries.
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No, if Portland is under the cap, they can take back more salary than they send out. That's how the other team saves money.
 
Entity said:
If the contract we were taking was a number greater than the cap space, then there would have to be a contract added. I think that's what B-Roy is asking.
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OK, that makes sense.
 
Entity said:
If the contract we were taking was a number greater than the cap space, then there would have to be a contract added. I think that's what B-Roy is asking.
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Oh, I see. Then yes. We could take back $X million less in salaries in a deal, where X is the cap space. If we took back $20 million in salary, and had $10 million in cap space, we'd have to send out $10 million in salaries.
 
Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Say we traded RLEC+Outlaw for Vince right now. It would work.

But if we let RLEC expire and be left with 6 million in free capspace, we would have to trade more than just Outlaw in order to take back Vince's contract, correct?
 
B-Roy said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Say we traded RLEC+Outlaw for Vince right now. It would work.

But if we let RLEC expire and be left with 6 million in free capspace, we would have to trade more than just Outlaw in order to take back Vince's contract, correct?
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Depends, but I'm guessing it will be even more of a buyer's market as time goes on after the season.
 
PapaG said:
Depends, but I'm guessing it will be even more of a buyer's market as time goes on after the season.
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It doesn't matter what the deal is. The point was that if the player we were getting back makes more than 6 Million, we'd have to add more players.
 
B-Roy said:
It doesn't matter what the deal is. The point was that if the player we were getting back makes more than 6 Million, we'd have to add more players.
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The roster is near full as is, and that's without draft picks. Do you expect to keep everyone, draft a player, and not send anyone out. I'm convinced that either Outlaw or Webster are gone in any summer trade, and I'm fine with that if it upgrades as position of need.

Plus, the TE is a part of the equation as well.
 
PapaG said:
The roster is near full as is, and that's without draft picks. Do you expect to keep everyone, draft a player, and not send anyone out. I'm convinced that either Outlaw or Webster are gone in any summer trade, and I'm fine with that if it upgrades as position of need.

Plus, the TE is a part of the equation as well.
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I don't think you can package the TE with a player.
 
B-Roy said:
Agh, no more rookies. No more rookies! :ohno:
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I said they could package that draft pick with a player in a trade. Meaning the rookie would be headed elsewhere. ;)

Anyway, I think the "no more rookies" thing is odd. Waiting for more rookies isn't necessary, but the team should absolutely have a constant influx of young talent through the draft. The Spurs won their first title with Duncan, Robinson and Elliott...had they not also been drafting Ginobili and Parker, they wouldn't have been good for so long.

The team should be prepared to contend with the players they have, but they should have more players coming up the pipeline at all times.
 
Minstrel said:
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I said they could package that draft pick with a player in a trade. Meaning the rookie would be headed elsewhere. ;)

Anyway, I think the "no more rookies" thing is odd. Waiting for more rookies isn't necessary, but the team should absolutely have a constant influx of young talent through the draft. The Spurs won their first title with Duncan, Robinson and Elliott...had they not also been drafting Ginobili and Parker, they wouldn't have been good for so long.

The team should be prepared to contend with the players they have, but they should have more players coming up the pipeline at all times.
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Yes, but the Spurs didn't have their entire roster filled head to toe with <25 yr old players. :ohno:
 
B-Roy said:
Yes, but the Spurs didn't have their entire roster filled head to toe with <25 yr old players. :ohno:
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Neither will Portland in a few years. No bad thing to have a group of players hit their primes together.
 
Minstrel said:
Neither will Portland in a few years. No bad thing to have a group of players hit their primes together.
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Then we can start adding more rookies in a few years. Right now there's too many young players that deserve playing time. If we're going to make a trade, we should consolidate them into a proven SF/PG.
 
B-Roy said:
Then we can start adding more rookies in a few years. Right now there's too many young players that deserve playing time. If we're going to make a trade, we should consolidate them into a proven SF/PG.
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Well, I don't entirely agree with that (Batum would have been fine to sit on the bench this year...he's playing due to lack of other SF options) as I think we can have more rookies and let them be reserves....but I should point out (once again!) that my original comment was that a draft pick acquired with the TE could be packaged with a player and traded away. Not used to add another rookie to the team.
 
B-Roy said:
Then we can start adding more rookies in a few years. Right now there's too many young players that deserve playing time. If we're going to make a trade, we should consolidate them into a proven SF/PG.
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I don't like this approach - if you can nab someone through the draft that can help you immediately - you do it - Derrick Rose was a rookie and was better than any PG on the market, Greg Oden a rookie is better than any Center on the market. There are tons of talented kids in the draft - and if we can get a good one next year - why not? Especially when this team is growing - there will be less of a need to coach Brandon and Rudy and Aldridge next year - given their added experience - so why not?

Talent is talent - you might not be able to utilize it immediately, but so what?
 
No doubt about it, Pritchard tanked this season

If we make the playoffs, it will be by default or luck. You choose. It is 100% unacceptable not to make a deal with these latest circumstances. With Webster and Oden being out, how in gods name did he not make a move? Obviously he wants a lotto pick. Before you kill me on this .... hear me out.

1. A day after the deadline, Martell is OUT FOR THE FUCKING SEASON? He didnt know this Monday? Thats just unacceptable. And you don't upgrade at SF? Even with salmons?????

2. Oden prob needs surgery. Its the worst kept secret in Blazer land. You know it and i know it. Why it hasn't happened i dont know unless they really want to miss the playoffs.

So i ask again, youth or no youth... cake baking crap, etc... HOW CAN YOU JUST LET A TEAM WHO IS 33-20 BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS AND NOT GIVE THEM ANY HELP???? IM SOORY KP LOVERS....BUT NOBODY CAN TELL ME HE DIDNT KNOW THIS STUFF ON WED NIGHT. IT IS UNREAL. As soon as oden goes under the knife, we are officially done. Another lotto pick which is what "good ole" KP lives for. A FUCKING DISGRACE.
 
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MIXUM said:
HOW CAN YOU JUST LET A TEAM WHO IS 33-20 BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS AND NOT GIVE THEM ANY HELP????
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It's his San Antonio background. That's where he learned. Look at them - their GM allowed a team that is 36-17 be thrown under the bus and did not give them any help. That's even worse!
 
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MIXUM said:
If we make the playoffs, it will be by default or luck. You choose. It is 100% unacceptable not to make a deal with these latest circumstances. With Webster and Oden being out, how in gods name did he not make a move? Obviously he wants a lotto pick. Before you kill me on this .... hear me out.
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so the blazers making the playoffs would be fools gold?
 
Re: No doubt about it, Pritchard tanked this season

MIXUM said:
If we make the playoffs, it will be by default or luck. You choose. It is 100% unacceptable not to make a deal with these latest circumstances. With Webster and Oden being out, how in gods name did he not make a move? Obviously he wants a lotto pick. Before you kill me on this .... hear me out.

1. A day after the deadline, Martell is OUT FOR THE FUCKING SEASON? He didnt know this Monday? Thats just unacceptable. And you don't upgrade at SF? Even with salmons?????

2. Oden prob needs surgery. Its the worst kept secret in Blazer land. You know it and i know it. Why it hasn't happened i dont know unless they really want to miss the playoffs.

So i ask again, youth or no youth... cake baking crap, etc... HOW CAN YOU JUST LET A TEAM WHO IS 33-20 BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS AND NOT GIVE THEM ANY HELP???? IM SOORY KP LOVERS....BUT NOBODY CAN TELL ME HE DIDNT KNOW THIS STUFF ON WED NIGHT. IT IS UNREAL. As soon as oden goes under the knife, we are officially done. Another lotto pick which is what "good ole" KP lives for. A FUCKING DISGRACE.
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