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TBpup said:
I would want more than just Zion for #3. There is so much risk with him (and upside) that I want another young player (Murphy or Jones) and #14. Zion's downside is huge and the money going forward combined with Dame's combined with Grant will be somewhat prohibitive in a couple of years.
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Have to agree with you here. The very fact that he was an absolute obvious #1 pick only a couple years ago and now is up in trade discussions is a huge red flag.
People were talking about tanking for this guy as the NBA season began. Zion was considered a "generational" talent.
 
Chris Craig said:
Nurk has seemed a bit out of shape and lackadaisical. He has trouble finishing at or even being assertive at the rim. That said, he is a starter level center. While I am glad he can shoot the three, he should focus on other parts of his game. Part of that, in his defense, is that he isn't being used correctly by Chauncey.

If the Blazers are going to make a deal that brings back a star, they will likely need his salary to match. If they do, they need to bring a big back though.

Ant is a hell of an offensive player. But, not sure how successful it is to have another ball dominant small guard next to Lillard. He will keep getting better, and I agree is likely underrated around the league. He is certainly the main player that needs to go out to bring in another star level player, and hopefully it is a star level player coming back, especially for him and the third.
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He’s in great shape right now. Lots of recent picks. Dude looks svelt.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Name that was being discussed at the time , no idea how seriously, KAT. Minny reached out

again, they aren’t all gold
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That's barely bronze.
 
Simons/Little/future picks for KAT

Nurk for a sign-and-trade Draymond.

Draft Scoot.

Dame/Scoot
Sharpe/Scoot
Grant/Thybulle
Draymond/Watford
KAT/Eubanks???
 
TBpup said:
Need some help from the Cap gurus.

IF.....Portland were to get Zion + for Scoot, how would that work Before and After January 1? He is on his smaller contract now and the new one kicks in starting July IIUC. What would need to go out now versus what would need to go out after July 1? My understanding is the cap impact would be different in terms of what we would ship out and what would come back. We have so few tradable contracts that would seem to make it more difficult.

Thank you in advance.
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for the next week or so, Zion is poison pill. That means that if New Orleans trades him they get a trade credit of his current salary which is around 13M. But the team he's traded to is accepting a trade debit of the average of his current salary + his total extension. IIRC that's around 34M. New Orleans can only take back about 18M in salary. The Blazers would have to send out a minimum of around 27M. That's about a 9M differential that would bust the trade legally

the Pels could add more salary on top of Zion's. But the Blazers would have to make up for that in the differential calculation

it's much easier to simply agree in principle at the draft, and complete the trade on July 1 (or whenever the moratorium lifts). There could be a 3rd team involved around the draft, but that 3rd team would likely just steal value from Portland and New Orleans
 
as for KAT....I'd be certain that the Vulcans would NEVER sign off on Portland having a 2nd super-max contract. DOA
 
Natebishop3 said:
Simons/Little/future picks for KAT

Nurk for a sign-and-trade Draymond.

Draft Scoot.

Dame/Scoot
Sharpe/Scoot
Grant/Thybulle
Draymond/Watford
KAT/Eubanks???
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KAT would certainly get punched by Draymond
 
Cugel said:
Worst thing ever to happen to KAT was winning that 3 pt contest.
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I know this is probably a joke but COVID was probably the worst thing to happen to him. He lost his mother and I think a few other family members to COVID. He hasn’t been the same guy ever since.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I know this is probably a joke but COVID was probably the worst thing to happen to him. He lost his mother and I think a few other family members to COVID. He hasn’t been the same guy ever since.
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I mean in regards to not playing in the paint and taking too many 3s.
 
glazeduck said:
Honestly, that would've been preferred to PG...
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you cant be serious

kat can score for sure, but he cannot defend and his effort is questionable, on top of that, hes had a lot of family tragedies, makes you wonder how much he cares about bball (he also secured himself and his family financially)

pg 13 with all his injuries is better option than kat

that being said, i wouldnt trade #3 for neither
 
Mr. Robot said:
you cant be serious

kat can score for sure, but he cannot defend and his effort is questionable, on top of that, hes had a lot of family tragedies, makes you wonder how much he cares about bball (he also secured himself and his family financially)

pg 13 with all his injuries is better option than kat

that being said, i wouldnt trade #3 for neither
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The good news is it's all moot, but yes, dead serious. PG's best days are WELL past him. KAT at least has untapped potential and, due to his issues, would be coming cheaply.
 
So is this deal dead?

Any more details of what the rumor was?

Just hoping like hell we're keeping Scoot.
 
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