Nobel Peace Prize Winner Barack H. Obama (aka Barry Soetoro) bombs Doctors without Borders

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He volunteered to serve his country. And I respect him and his service to our country.

And you're the one bringing up Vietnam. I specifically said Iraq. I don't want our troops in Iraq. I can't make it any clearer than that. I DON'T WANT OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ! I don't give 2 shits about Iraq. I just don't.
It's the same difference. Iraq or Vietnam. Why is that any different?
 
I don't think we have to go that far, but I sure think these people that think it is our duty to create a democracy where there is none, need to be stifled. It is a very dumb idea.

You can't force someone to be a democracy, they have to want it.

Why are we so fucking insecure about democracy? Why does everyone have to be like us? If they want a king, or dictator, or magical farting goat why do we even care? I personally believe that a democracy is the best form of government but I don't care if Iraq does. Fuck them. Are they fighting for their democracy now? No! You know why, no skin in the game. They didn't earn it. They're not going to fight for it. They want to fight for which flavor of Islam is the best. If that's what they want then let them.
 
It's the same difference. Iraq or Vietnam. Why is that any different?

The past and the present aren't the same thing. Expressing my opinion about Vietnam won't change history. Expressing my opinion about getting the fuck out of Iraq hopefully can.

So because we fought in Vietnam means we need to continue sending troops to Iraq?
 
The past and the present aren't the same thing. Expressing my opinion about Vietnam won't change history. Expressing my opinion about getting the fuck out of Iraq hopefully can.

So because we fought in Vietnam means we need to continue sending troops to Iraq?
The mistake to go in was already made. It's okay anyway, it looks like Iran will go in there after we leave.
 
There may be more willful stupidity in this thread than any other in the history of S2. And that competition is fierce, of course.

barfo
 
The result of the surrender is his fault.

That's like blaming your mom for not cleaning up your puke on the carpet when you drank too much.

Have to blame that on CheneyBush for deliberately starting an unwinnable war under false pretenses, then refusing to withdraw while it was still feasible. They had 6 years and all the money China would lend us and basically got their ass beat the whole time. Easily the biggest military failure in our country's history.
 
Strawman.

You agree Obama armed ISIS. I'd call his handling of Iraq beyond incompetent.

Running against Carter, while Iran was holding our entire embassy staff as hostages,Reagan agreed to illegally arm Iran if Iran agreed to KEEP HOLDING OUR CITIZENS AS HOSTAGES UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION so Carter would lose. If Reagan lost, the deal was off. He won, and committed treason in more ways than I can count.

Bush Sr. trained Osama Bin Laden and his troops, armed them and paid them to fight.
 
Sly why do you hate our troops?
 
There may be more willful stupidity in this thread than any other in the history of S2. And that competition is fierce, of course.

barfo

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Running against Carter, while Iran was holding our entire embassy staff as hostages,Reagan agreed to illegally arm Iran if Iran agreed to KEEP HOLDING OUR CITIZENS AS HOSTAGES UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION so Carter would lose. If Reagan lost, the deal was off. He won, and committed treason in more ways than I can count.

Bush Sr. trained Osama Bin Laden and his troops, armed them and paid them to fight.

Carter agreed to arm Iran if they freed the hostages. He went on national TV and offered arms for hostages.

The rest of your story has been debunked and is now known as the October Surmise.
 

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