Now that a little time has passed, how do you feel about LMA leaving?

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I don't give a shit. Why should I miss someone whose heart was apparently never with this team? I was thrilled to see a guy who weighs more than Aldridge (Vonleh) dive on the floor twice for loose balls today. More than anything I want a team that plays with heart and passion.
 
Relax, I'm just as much on your side now as I was a few weeks ago. It's just discussion. But one we obviously disagree on...

That wasn't even directed at you. It really was in general from this thread to what I've been reading the last week. It's all good, FAMS.
 
Neil did a good job rebuilding the Clippers. I'm ok with him doing the same for the Blazers.

No hard feelings towards LMA. He needs to both chase a ring and make big money.

As a professional he needs to do what is best for himself and his family. Just don't jerk off the fans and make promises before you make your inevitable exit.
 
LaMarcus will absolutely be the #1 option in San Antonio. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Then I'm saying they won't win.

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think San Antonio wins with LA as a real #1 option.
 
Then I'm saying they won't win.

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think San Antonio wins with LA as a real #1 option.

You said #1 or #2. I do think LA is the better talent over Leonard.

But in the end, it's a lil less about talent and more about coaching. If you don't think that Pop won't get it out of that with LA as the #1 or #2 option. You don't have much respect for him as a coach. I think he will get out of it.
 
Stotts tried to turn him into Dirk. Pops will try to turn him into Duncan. He'll be better in the Duncan role. Bastards.
 
I'm disappointed he left, but I've moved on to the rebuild. I was never pissed at him personally for deciding to leave. After playing through his second contract here, he earned the right to decide to do what he thought is best for him. I am pissed at him, however, about the way he did it. If he had made up his mind last summer and asked for a trade to one of the Texas teams the Blazers could have received some compensation for him and would be further along in the rebuild. As it is, his indecision screwed Portland and set the team back much farther than needed to occur. I'll hold that against him for a while.
 
Being the #1 option on the Spurs is a lot different than being the #1 option on the Blazers. The Spurs are contenders every year, but rarely have an individual player average 20 ppg. In fact, in recent years, it's rare that they have anyone average 18 ppg.

It's a system, where all players contribute. Aldridge could easily see his scoring average drop by over 5 points per game and still lead the Spurs in scoring. Given the system he'll be playing in, the coach and the players around him, he could easily win a championship while leading the Spurs in scoring. They will certainly be contenders with him as their leading scorer.

BNM
 
As a professional he needs to do what is best for himself and his family. Just don't jerk off the fans and make promises before you make your inevitable exit.
I don't believe it was his intent to leave all along. What he felt before Wes' injury and the playoff exit was not how he felt after. It's understandable.
 
Disappointed he left, but wish him the best going forward except when he plays the Blazers.
 
Same.

He wanted out for 3 years
Olshey and the team were in a tough spot because they were winning enough to make trading him unlikely

I am in the same mindset Olshey is. I want players that want to be in Portland
 
I am lightening up a bit. I only want to set his uniform on fire not blow it up into little threads.
 
Neil did a good job rebuilding the Clippers. I'm ok with him doing the same for the Blazers.

Not picking on you Denny, I appreciate your input, but want to expand on your Clippers topic.

I was very impressed with NO’s press conference, on every level except for his referring back to his time with the Clippers. He did it several times. This was a big no-no on several levels. You never brag about what you did on the last job and how you are going to do the same thing on the new job. Reason, the issues and resources are not the same from job to job, so results will vary.

Example: NO got very lucky to trade for CP3. He implied that he was going to eventually make a similar trade here. Good luck trading a franchise player to Portland, especially if he keeps pissing off other GMs the way he tried to last week with Presti.

Also, we have not had the same success rate at signing quality FAs as large markets teams such as teams in LA have had.

My point is, Olshey will have a much more difficult job to rebuild the Blazers than it was to rebuild the Clippers. He should never compare the two; it is faulty reasoning. If Olshey thinks he will have the same results he had with the Clippers, he is fooling himself and misleading the fans. His best hope now is for a high lottery draft pick, and then wait the 3-5 years when everyone has developed enough to compete in the playoffs.

The 3-5 year wait to compete in the playoffs is why I am upset with the problems LMA has caused.
 
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I don't like it

It's going to be awhile before I get past the idea of another rebuild and the timeline for being relevant is prob a good three to four years down the road.

Probably, but, I'm not saying this is on Aldridge, but we only got out of the first round once with him.

I'd argue that in 3 or 4 years, the potential of this team is much greater (if everything shakes out, which it won't - but I think we were pretty much stuck where we were with LMA We would've brought everyone back, as Aldridge aged, Matthews recovery would've been a huge ?? and Vonleh never would've developed behind Aldridge.)
 
Not picking on you Denny, I appreciate your input, but want to expand on your Clippers topic.

I was very impressed with NO’s press conference, on every level except for his referring back to his time with the Clippers. He did it several times. This was a big no-no on several levels. You never brag about what you did on the last job and how you are going to do the same thing on the new job. Reason, the issues and resources are not the same from job to job, so results will vary.

Example: NO got very lucky to trade for CP3. He implied that he was going to eventually make a similar trade here. Good luck trading a franchise player to Portland, especially if he keeps pissing off other GMs the way he tried to last week with Presti.

Also, we have not had the same success rate at signing quality FAs as large markets teams such as teams in LA have had.

My point is, Olshey will have a much more difficult job to rebuild the Blazers than it was to rebuild the Clippers. He should never compare the two; it is faulty reasoning. If Olshey thinks he will have the same results he had with the Clippers, he is fooling himself and misleading the fans. His best hope now is for a high lottery draft pick, and then wait the 3-5 years when everyone has developed enough to compete in the playoffs.

The 3-5 year wait to compete in the playoffs is why I am upset with the problems LMA has caused.

This has proven to be false lately, has it not? Lakers have struck out on NUMEROUS FA's, Dwight left, DeAndre almost left, and Greg Monroe shot down the Knicks for a young Milwaukie team that I'd say we are attempting to emulate.

Agree that we will not get a CP3 level player, but, we already have our superstar in Dame (hopefully). We need our 2nd and 3rd pillars. I think he tries to trade for one of them, rather than a top 3 player at the time. (DeRozan for instance, not saying him, but similarly quality. A true #3 guy or #2 guy, while we wait for Vonleh, Meyers or McCollum to develop into - something).

Disagree that it'll be more difficult to rebuild the Blazers than the Clippers - the Clippers were the laughing stock of the entire league when he rebuilt them. We have youth, talent, and now plenty of assets to make a trade if something unbelievable comes along. Refer to the amount of lotto talent we have on this team: the odds say we are likely to have SOMEONE pan out. As a matter of fact, I think I've seen articles posted in this forum saying how the Blazers are in a GREAT Position to rebuild and it won't take nearly as long some think.

Truly, if one of our young guys pan out and we hit gold in the FA market (unlikely, I'll give you that. But say we overachieve, win a decent amount of games, someone think sthey are the missing piece for our team next year in FA, ala monroe and the Bucks?) we could be back in the playoffs relatively soon.

As I run through it, I agree with you - he shouldn't compare the two because it is faulty reasoning - but I differ from you in that this rebuild will be easier than the Clippers because we already have a point guard. Sure they got lucky getting there PG, but they still haven't gotten out of the second round, either. And its much easier to trade/sign a 3rd fiddle than it is to trade for or sign the guy. We already have our guy,

and thats

Damian Fucking Lillard. :)
 
Lillard signed a long extension. Portland can keep a superstar.

Olshey has a track record. His history of moves earns my trust. Isaiah Thomas has not earned my trust. Dig?
 
Disagree that it'll be more difficult to rebuild the Blazers than the Clippers - the Clippers were the laughing stock of the entire league when he rebuilt them.

After the mid-season trade for CP3, Olshey still had Blake Griffin, Caron Butler, and DeAndre Jordan, that is 4 quality starters. He also had Randy Foye a lottery team level starter, and young Eric Bledsoe a future starter.

I would take that Clippers team to rebuild around over our roster with Dame, and only Dame as our quality starter.
 
I hypothetically wipe my ass with his jersey every day. I say hypothetically because I never had his jersey. But if I did, I would.
 
You said #1 or #2. I do think LA is the better talent over Leonard.

But in the end, it's a lil less about talent and more about coaching. If you don't think that Pop won't get it out of that with LA as the #1 or #2 option. You don't have much respect for him as a coach. I think he will get out of it.

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing. My statement is that a team won't win with LA as a real #1 or #2. I won't be surprised to see SA make LA the #1 or #2, but I don't see them winning it all that way. I'm not saying SA won't win it all, I'm not saying SA won't make LA the #1 or #2. I'm saying I don't believe SA wins it all with LA as a real #1 or #2.
 
I hypothetically wipe my ass with his jersey every day. I say hypothetically because I never had his jersey and never wipe my ass. But if I did, I would.

FTFY.

barfo
 
I'm not disagreeing or agreeing. My statement is that a team won't win with LA as a real #1 or #2. I won't be surprised to see SA make LA the #1 or #2, but I don't see them winning it all that way. I'm not saying SA won't win it all, I'm not saying SA won't make LA the #1 or #2. I'm saying I don't believe SA wins it all with LA as a real #1 or #2.

We disagree then...I think SA wins it and I will go out and say with him being the #1 option. In the end it's more about coach and system. I think that coach and system can get it done with LA as the #1.
 
After the mid-season trade for CP3, Olshey still had Blake Griffin, Caron Butler, and DeAndre Jordan, that is 4 quality starters. He also had Randy Foye a lottery team level starter, and young Eric Bledsoe a future starter.

I would take that Clippers team to rebuild around over our roster with Dame, and only Dame as our quality starter.
When Olshey took over the Clippers in March 2010, his top players were Rasual Butler, Chris Kaman, Baron Davis, and Eric Gordon, only one of whom was younger than 27, and none of whom had a PER over 18.

All of them had to be jettisoned during their rebuild. We have nobody on our squad that fits a similar profile. As has been pointed out before, most rebuilds require a teardown; we have a head start since Aldridge already performed the teardown for us.
 
Mannnn... Fuck him.... I'm still trying to figure out what I'm gonna do with my red #12.

#outthejerseygame4life
 

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