Nurk Could Be Out Until February

[Strenuus]

We have help.


He doesnt even need to come back until hes 100%.

At any other point would be stupid.

 

[kjironman1]

I don't get why anyone would think differently than this.

Yeah
The 3 to 6 month google search is a bit naive at best.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

You guys need the knowhow of an actual doctor. No problem, I'm here to help.

Dammit, wrong kind of doctor!!!

#AnyoneNeedDiffEqsSolved?

 

[illmatic99]

Remember PG's injury.

Got hurt Aug 1.
Was seen walking around without a boot in the end of September.
Dunked and shot around in practice late October.
Started practicing regularly in March. Admitted he wasn't yet mentally 100%
Played in his first game in April. Was shaky the last few weeks of the season, recovered fully over the subsequent summer and was back in October close to his old self to start the next season.

That's about 8 months to return. About 14 months to truly recover to full strength.

Nurk got hurt on March 26.
Was walking around without a boot a month later.
We saw him doing leg work last month.

8 months puts him at January. Full recovery even if we're not conservative is about March.

This isn't unexpected. I want him back only when he's 100%. Whiteside is a fine replacement for the season.

 

[Jon]

i honestly thought he would be done for the year.

 

[CupWizier]

Remember PG's injury.

Got hurt Aug 1.
Was seen walking around without a boot in the end of September.
Dunked and shot around in practice late October.
Started practicing regularly in March. Admitted he wasn't yet mentally 100%
Played in his first game in April. Was shaky the last few weeks of the season, recovered fully over the subsequent summer and was back in October close to his old self to start the next season.

That's about 8 months to return. About 14 months to truly recover to full strength.

Nurk got hurt on March 26.
Was walking around without a boot a month later.
We saw him doing leg work last month.

8 months puts him at January. Full recovery even if we're not conservative is about March.

This isn't unexpected. I want him back only when he's 100%. Whiteside is a fine replacement for the season.

Not sure what calendar you are using but March 26 would be 8 months at Nov 26th not January.

Also, using George as an example isn't necessarily a good one as he did come back and play at the end of the season and if the season was continued it's hard to say how long it would have taken for him to be able to play at 100%. It could have taken another 10 games, a month or more. Nurkic has 4 more months recovery time to the season than George did.

 

[Cugel]

Look Whitesides is playing for his career in Portland. He fucks up here and he will become a 5 mil a year 2-3 string center. It's his choice. He could be an all NBA defensive team contender and it's within his grasp.

If it takes Nurk until Feb. to get back to the world-class player he was last year then so be it. A healthy Nurk will only improve: rim protecting (check++), free throws (check+), boards (check++), passing (check+), offense down low (check+), mid-range shot (check) outside threat (deficient), ball handling (deficient), plain bad-ass, tough, loyal hardworking mf'er (check +++). Imagine if he shoots 30% from 3. Brutal brutal guy. Get well Nurk!

 

[CupWizier]

We have help.


He doesnt even need to come back until hes 100%.

At any other point would be stupid.

I have no doubt that he won't comeback till he is 100% healthy as that's why Olshey went out and got Whiteside. Whether it's 8 months. 12 months or whenever I will just patiently wait for his return, but I'm not going to try and claim some sort of medical knowledge and we have no idea how his rehab is going to make a judgement one way or the other. Too many forum doctors that try and diagnose medical conditions from a computer.

 

[Labinot41]

what worries me is the fact that Nurkic already has 2 breaks within two years.

 

[riverman]

what worries me is the fact that Nurkic already has 2 breaks within two years.

both those breaks actually strengthened his bones after repairs...it's the nature of those injuries. The good thing about them is they happened when he is still really young and his bones will heal more quickly than someone my age with that injury

 

[wizenheimer]

both those breaks actually strengthened his bones after repairs...it's the nature of those injuries. The good thing about them is they happened when he is still really young and his bones will heal more quickly than someone my age with that injury

all mostly true, but what is also true is that both breaks occurred on relatively routine basketball plays. Could just be coincidence...probably is. But it's also possible it's a sign of less sturdy bones

by the way, leg bones are long bones. The area directly around a break will be stronger, but that's not true for the entire length of the bone

 

[dviss1]

Bump

 

[tlongII]

I don't get why anyone would think differently than this.

Um...because we actually research the recovery timeline for this type of injury? He’ll be back on the court in December in my opinion. Even that is conservative.

 

[hoopsjock]

Um...because we actually research the recovery timeline for this type of injury? He’ll be back on the court in December in my opinion. Even that is conservative.

Yup, your google search is definitely more relevant than what actual doctors and the team are saying.

 

[e_blazer]

Yup, your google search is definitely more relevant than what actual doctors and the team are saying.

We’ve heard what Olshey said. Have we heard from team doctors?

 

[tlongII]

Yup, your google search is definitely more relevant than what actual doctors and the team are saying.

Have you considered that I may have consulted a doctor on this subject?

 

[hoopsjock]

Have you considered that I may have consulted a doctor on this subject?

Yes, unless that doctor has access to Nurk it's simply their best estimate.

 

[wizenheimer]

We’ve heard what Olshey said. Have we heard from team doctors?

lol...do you think it's possible that Olshey has heard from team doctors? trick question for sure

so then, after he's spoken to team doctors after every time they make an evaluation, he comes out and says February. But apparently, he's lying....?

 

[e_blazer]

lol...do you think it's possible that Olshey has heard from team doctors? trick question for sure

so then, after he's spoken to team doctors after every time they make an evaluation, he comes out and says February. But apparently, he's lying....?

Why do you have to go from zero to asshole in 60 seconds? I'm just asking a question. Has anyone heard anything other than the snippet that Olshey dropped in that interview? I'm not questioning his timeline, and I certainly would think that he's had plenty of talks with Nurk's and the team's doctors. Hoopsjock mentioned doctors' reports in his post and I'm just asking if anyone has actually heard those.

I think some of you live for confrontation on this board.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Why do you have to go from zero to asshole in 60 seconds? I'm just asking a question. Has anyone heard anything other than the snippet that Olshey dropped in that interview? I'm not questioning his timeline, and I certainly would think that he's had plenty of talks with Nurk's and the team's doctors. Hoopsjock mentioned doctors' reports in his post and I'm just asking if anyone has actually heard those.

I think some of you live for confrontation on this board.

I havent heard anything recent from a medical professional.

 

[tlongII]

Yes, unless that doctor has access to Nurk it's simply their best estimate.

Even if a doctor does have access to Nurk it’s still essentially a guess. My buddy’s son (who is a doctor) told me it will be a minimum of 6-8 months to a maximum of 1 year.

 

[hoopsjock]

We’ve heard what Olshey said. Have we heard from team doctors?

I was assuming Olshey was relaying what he's being told.

 

[hoopsjock]

Even if a doctor does have access to Nurk it’s still essentially a guess. My buddy’s son (who is a doctor) told me it will be a minimum of 6-8 months to a maximum of 1 year.

So why not say he'll be back sometime between October and March then instead of continually insisting he'll be back by December?

 

[wizenheimer]

Why do you have to go from zero to asshole in 60 seconds? I'm just asking a question. Has anyone heard anything other than the snippet that Olshey dropped in that interview? I'm not questioning his timeline, and I certainly would think that he's had plenty of talks with Nurk's and the team's doctors. Hoopsjock mentioned doctors' reports in his post and I'm just asking if anyone has actually heard those.

I think some of you live for confrontation on this board.

c'mon man...pot-kettle...you sure blasted up to asshole speed yourself in a goddam hurry

you asked for the doctor reports....wut?...when do we ever get the actual doctor reports?

The doctors will talk to the patient, his family, and in this case, Blazer management. I don't think they can talk to anybody else. They sure don't hold press conferences or call in to radio shows. All we will hear, maybe, is the patient himself, and usually, the GM or coach. And this far out, all we will get is vague timelines because every body is different and there can be all kinds of factors and setbacks involved in a recovery

so that leaves us with what Olshey said and possibly, the Paul George timeline as a template. Both Nurkic and PG were 24 when they were injured. It took PG 8 months to come back. And when he did he averaged less than 15 minutes over the last 6 games of the season and he looked like crap. Using that timeline would indicate sometime in December. But Nurkic is a much bigger man than PG and he also plays, jumps, and lands in a more congested part of the floor while consistently enduring more contact. Just about every general factor would point to Nurkic taking a little longer to get back than PG; except of course for the factors that we have no idea exist or not

Olshey very well might have been conservative with his estimate as a way to hold down expectations. The doctors could have told him Jan-Feb

 

[Orion Bailey]

Olshey could also be playing the game. Keeping opposing teams in the dark.
Let them thunk feb. when he shows up in the court in December, teams wont be ready.

Purely speculation but olshey does things like this all the time. Info is held very close unless he wants it out.

 

[superfly4201]

NO made one flippant comment in a summer league broadcast and its gets plastered everywhere Nurk is out til Feb. There is zero advantage for the team to say he could be back in December. Just means they have to answer questions leading up to and beyond if he doesn’t hit that mark. Throw out a way too conservative estimate and hope for sooner. Not sure PG is a great comparison. There games are night and day. PG plays vertical and cuts. I’ll lean more optimistic and hope for a December return.

 

[hoopsjock]

Olshey could also be playing the game. Keeping opposing teams in the dark.
Let them thunk feb. when he shows up in the court in December, teams wont be ready.

Purely speculation but olshey does things like this all the time. Info is held very close unless he wants it out.

There is literally no reason to trick teams that way. The schedule isn't even out yet. If he was close to playing in December that information would leak out. There is no way it would surprise teams.

It is possible that Olshey is tempering expectations but with Whiteside in the mix I don't know why the Blazers would even consider bringing him back until they are 100% confident in his recovery.

 

[illmatic99]

NO made one flippant comment in a summer league broadcast and its gets plastered everywhere Nurk is out til Feb. There is zero advantage for the team to say he could be back in December. Just means they have to answer questions leading up to and beyond if he doesn’t hit that mark. Throw out a way too conservative estimate and hope for sooner. Not sure PG is a great comparison. There games are night and day. PG plays vertical and cuts. I’ll lean more optimistic and hope for a December return.

I don't think anything Neil says is flippant. He's too careful.

And I don't see why people are so up in arms about February. This was expected to take a year for him to return and he got hurt in late March. And we have Hassan to cover for him, so he can take his time on his rehab.

 

[CupWizier]

We’ve heard what Olshey said. Have we heard from team doctors?

Nope, unless you count s2 blazer doctors, hahaha

 

[CupWizier]

There is literally no reason to trick teams that way. The schedule isn't even out yet. If he was close to playing in December that information would leak out. There is no way it would surprise teams.

It is possible that Olshey is tempering expectations but with Whiteside in the mix I don't know why the Blazers would even consider bringing him back until they are 100% confident in his recovery.

What makes you think they won't wait till he is 100%. Maybee it's December or February or inbetween. Me, i'll just wait and see and not waste my time on baseless speculation.