Nurk out for at least one month

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It can get bad enough to sideline a person if he doesn't rest it for some time. When I had bad flare ups I couldn't run for at least 3-4 weeks. Sure if its in a moderate stage you can endure and take meds to help.
I've had it from.running many times. If he wanted to play he could. He could wait until the offseason to let it heal. Players play and take rest days from PF all the time.

Nothing feels better than rubbing a cold 12oz soda can back and forth on your affected foot.

Big bulky skate shoes are amazing for it. Wear those when you are really in pain to walk around the house and you can't even feel the pain.
 
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Hey, please, stay safe and if you can keep us posted. You have friends here.
Haha, you mean stay safe here in Spokane? I would either be dead or in a Russian prison if I had stayed in Crimea. We left on the last train out of Crimea on the night before the phony referendum. My lawyer emailed me a couple days later and said the police were looking for me for "questioning".
 
Haha, you mean stay safe here in Spokane? I would either be dead or in a Russian prison if I had stayed in Crimea. We left on the last train out of Crimea on the night before the phony referendum. My lawyer emailed me a couple days later and said the police were looking for me for "questioning".
Holy shit!
 
Haha, you mean stay safe here in Spokane? I would either be dead or in a Russian prison if I had stayed in Crimea. We left on the last train out of Crimea on the night before the phony referendum. My lawyer emailed me a couple days later and said the police were looking for me for "questioning".
Do you think he has Lithuania, Latvia & Estonia as his next move?
 
Do you think he has Lithuania, Latvia & Estonia as his next move?
Not right now. But I am not a good prophet. I never thought he would invade. Over the long run he is destroying Russia. I believe he is insane so anything is possible. Our only hope is that some sensible and powerful people in Russia will take him out; but he has consolidated control so much don't think is possible. Here is my FB group page: https://www.facebook.com/Save-democracy-in-Ukraine-165017730178709/
 
Said “He was dealing with symptoms “.
Much different. Now it’s a problem and it doesn’t go away.
This is just another injury for Nurk. Don’t think for a second this guy can stay healthy. It’s now enough of an injury of concern he can’t play on it.

He must of re-injured it on his trip to Cancun during All Star break..
 
Cronin saw the Blazers go into Memphis and beat the team with the 3rd best record in the NBA that had won six straight.
He looked at the relatively weak schedule for the Trail Blazers and did the math.
His big plans for the off-season could evaporate if the Blazers made it into the playoffs and New Orleans won in the lottery. Even if it was unlikely, this worst-case scenario was probably giving him nightmares.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure why some people are so convinced the Blazers would be that anxious to tank into a late lotto pick in what many observers seem to think is a shallow draft.
 
I'll admit, this does have the appearance of a tanking decision

But as somebody who has personally dealt with plantar fasciitis I can testify that is no joke. It can be severe and extremely painful. More than that it is unpredictable; you can be doing just fine for months and wake up one morning nearly unable to walk. The only solution, short of surgery, is mild stretching and rest. Stay off the foot
So shouldn't it be Day to Day and not "out for a month" out of nowhere?
 
nurk is in a contract season, so there are two ways to look at this:

a) he really needs to be out for a month in order to sort out the injury
b) they already agreed on a new deal and therefore agreed to keep him out in order to get those picks they wanted (they couldve keep playing him and bring dame back too in order to get into the playoffs)

but given hes been playing with this since september, i tend to believe he couldve play through it until the end of the season, especially in a contract season when he was playing his best bball... trail blazers want to re-sign him, he wants to re-sign, so if both parties found a number theyre happy with, why not agree to a deal now, instead of risking an injury or losing him in free agency, as you never know what can happen
I'm going with option A.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure why some people are so convinced the Blazers would be that anxious to tank into a late lotto pick in what many observers seem to think is a shallow draft.
Some only see the top 4-5 as having "star potential". Many other observers see a draft littered with NBA talent throughout the top-15.

Also, a late lotto pick is where the Blazers already are, without any tanking efforts (presently tied with New York for the 9th-worst record). Solid tanking could easily get them to 6, with a decent chance at a top-4 pick in this "shallow draft".
 
Some only see the top 4-5 as having "star potential". Many other observers see a draft littered with NBA talent throughout the top-15.

Also, a late lotto pick is where the Blazers already are, without any tanking efforts (presently tied with New York for the 9th-worst record). Solid tanking could easily get them to 6, with a decent chance at a top-4 pick in this "shallow draft".
The way i see it right now nothing after the first or maybe second pick is going to help this team win games for at least 3 years. If they get the tall skinny "Chet" dude from Gonzaga he's still 2 years from really contributing. Seriously this draft is for building in 2-3 years which I'm cool with if that happens that way. If the Blazers keep their draft pick and get the Pels pick as well they need to go after the best player available and build as best they can.
But as far as "tanking"? I just don't see that as a viable option and i certainly hope the players and coaches don't either.
 
So shouldn't it be Day to Day and not "out for a month" out of nowhere?
If he's been harassed by it since Sept and its now so flared up he can hardly walk on it (believe me it can get that way) a long period of rest is about the only way to get in front of it again.
 
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Some only see the top 4-5 as having "star potential". Many other observers see a draft littered with NBA talent throughout the top-15.

Also, a late lotto pick is where the Blazers already are, without any tanking efforts (presently tied with New York for the 9th-worst record). Solid tanking could easily get them to 6, with a decent chance at a top-4 pick in this "shallow draft".

OK, but given the team's history with injury issues isn't it also possible that they have other reasons to be cautious with Dame and Nurk? If players are seen as building blocks for the future, how much risk is acceptable just to chase a play-in spot?
 
OK, but given the team's history with injury issues isn't it also possible that they have other reasons to be cautious with Dame and Nurk? If players are seen as building blocks for the future, how much risk is acceptable just to chase a play-in spot?
Whether or not it's wise for the Blazers to be cautious with injuries/recovery for their top performers, and whether or not there is value in tanking this season going into a "weak draft" are (in my mind) two completely different questions. Is it important to identify the primary impetus for this decision? Seems both can reasonably be presumed to be factors.
 
So shouldn't it be Day to Day and not "out for a month" out of nowhere?

not if it's a severe flare-up of P.F. Inflammation of the fascia can take many weeks to subside. And premature return to activity can return the inflammation to square one. I find it very credible that an orthopedic doctor might recommend a month away from an NBA floor. But again that was a severe case. I also find it credible that Nurkic could have been dealing with PF for a while, but suddenly the condition became severe

but as I pointed out, it's also credible to me that Portland is using this as an excuse and Nurk is ok with it. The best asset Portland has right now may very well be their shot at a top-4 pick in the lottery. It's smart policy to try and maximize that asset

but it also leaves an option open. A month from now, on March 23, they start a 5 game home-stand. There will be 11 games left in the season and 9 of them will be against teams with worse records. And the two against better teams are the last 2 games of the season and those better teams could be resting players if their seeding is set. So, if the Blazers are still in the 10th seed or real close, I can see where the Blazers may say fuck-it, and bring back Dame and Nurk while activating Bledsoe. I just can't see the Blazers getting any higher than the 7th seed of the lottery; and that will be hard because other teams will be better at tanking
 
OK, but given the team's history with injury issues isn't it also possible that they have other reasons to be cautious with Dame and Nurk? If players are seen as building blocks for the future, how much risk is acceptable just to chase a play-in spot?
There's really no risk in playing Nurk, it's just if he's willing to endure the pain and then rest and rehab in the off season. Plantar faciitis doesn't derail careers. As far as Dame's injury goes the recommended recovery time for the surgery is up today. So he should be capable of doing whatever he wants. Obviously being cleared right now for full activity means he would have to get his conditioning back but that's about it.

Make no mistake about it if we're holding Nurk out for a minimum or four weeks and considering sitting Dame the rest of this season, we're doing it in an attempt to get better draft position but with our schedule being what it is March 20th through April 4th we could really fuck that up.

IMO worst case scenario for this off season is that we don't get the Pelicans pick because it's top 4 and we get our pick at 11-13 with all of our future picks frozen because of the conditions on what we owe the Bulls. What the fuck are we going to do with that huge TPE and the 11th pick in this draft? I guess if we're really confident in what we'll have next season, we could trade the Bulls our second rounder for them to take the conditions off the pick we owe them and that would free up all of our future firsts 2025 and after.
 
nurk is in a contract season, so there are two ways to look at this:

a) he really needs to be out for a month in order to sort out the injury
b) they already agreed on a new deal and therefore agreed to keep him out in order to get those picks they wanted (they couldve keep playing him and bring dame back too in order to get into the playoffs)

but given hes been playing with this since september, i tend to believe he couldve play through it until the end of the season, especially in a contract season when he was playing his best bball... trail blazers want to re-sign him, he wants to re-sign, so if both parties found a number theyre happy with, why not agree to a deal now, instead of risking an injury or losing him in free agency, as you never know what can happen

There is a third. He has already decided to leave no matter what and refuses to play in pain for a team he no longer wants to be part of.

I've already stated I think the injury is legit (option 1), but I am not going to be naive about it.
 
CAP GEEKERY: The Nurkić shutdown
The Trail Blazers’ recent shutdown of Jusuf Nurkić due to plantar fasciitis definitely raised some eyebrows around the league. The team announced he would miss “a minimum of four weeks” with six weeks left in the season, so you can see where this one is heading.

The Bosnian big man had been playing very well heading into the All-Star break (averaging 17.4 points, 12.6 boards and 3.4 assists since Jan. 1) and had Portland on the verge of qualifying for the Play-In Tournament, a fate it’s unclear the Blazers actually wanted. While he’s lost some shot-blocking juice since a gruesome broken leg in 2019, his mobility seems mostly back to where it was, and his other production metrics are essentially back to pre-injury levels.

Since Nurkić is also an unrestricted free agent after the season and, at 27, still likely has some good seasons left in the tank, some have wondered what this portends for the Blazers’ offseason. Presumably, Nurkić would prefer to play and keep increasing his stock in free agency. Could shutting him down now imply that there is some de facto agreement between the Blazers and their big man for next season?

If so, it’s likely for more than $14.4 million per season. Nurkić could ink an extension for that amount right now, but he’s capped at that starting salary because it’s a 120 percent raise on his current $12 million. Given his age and production, his market value is likely considerably more than that, even in a relatively parched free agency landscape where only a few teams have cap space and nobody is anxious to spend it on centers.

Signaling that Nurkić is in their plans for next season if he wants to be is likely good business for Portland because it turns a difficult decision into a simple one. If Nurkić walks, the Blazers can operate as a “cap room” team; waiving Eric Bledsoe and Josh Hart and letting Nurkić walk would put the Blazers roughly $35 million below the cap, depending on where their own draft picks fall and if a pick owed from New Orleans (protected No. 1-4 and No. 15-30) conveys this year. The issue is the Blazers would have no players left, especially in the frontcourt.

Operating “over the cap” by re-signing Nurkić and keeping Hart is a much better way for the Blazers to operate, especially with a $20 million trade exception left over from the CJ McCollum trade. But knowing Nurkić will be back is the key to making that work; otherwise the Blazers have to hunt for a starting center in free agency and would likely need cap room to do it.

The Blazers’ pathway to a quick rebuild around Damian Lillard, Nurkić, Hart and Anfernee Simons (a restricted free agent with an $11.8 million cap hold) still has speed bumps ahead. The Blazers have to find at least one more real wing player — a Sisyphean task for them in recent years — and the luxury tax looms as an issue if they use the trade exception.

Nonetheless, securing Nurkić’s return — and securing a top draft pick while he is shut down, which, not coincidentally, resulted in defeats by 37 and 32 points last week after Portland had won the previous four games in which Nurkić played — seems a far more promising pathway for the Blazers’ return to respectability.
https://theathletic.com/3154490/202...uf-nurkic-situation-hollingers-week-that-was/


I feel like there’s a deal agreed as well. He was way too happy after being shut down, usually he seems to get pretty down after injuries.
 
The Blazers’ pathway to a quick rebuild around Damian Lillard, Nurkić, Hart and Anfernee Simons (a restricted free agent with an $11.8 million cap hold) still has speed bumps ahead. The Blazers have to find at least one more real wing player — a Sisyphean task for them in recent years — and the luxury tax looms as an issue if they use the trade exception.

Nice read but they seem to have forgot about Nassir Little. Of course he needs to stay healthy as well as Nurkic.
I guess adding another solid Wing Player would still be a very good thing. They also need a solid backup center. Not sure Watford is ready yet.
 
Nice read but they seem to have forgot about Nassir Little. Of course he needs to stay healthy as well as Nurkic.
I guess adding another solid Wing Player would still be a very good thing. They also need a solid backup center. Not sure Watford is ready yet.

Watford isn’t a center anyway. Eubanks would be a solid backup and I’m hoping they can draft Duren
 
Watford isn’t a center anyway. Eubanks would be a solid backup and I’m hoping they can draft Duren
I'm just not really sure about Eubanks. Yeah he's a local guy but if Pops can't get much out of him not sure Chauncey will get anything more.
Dude looks like he is out of the league in the next year or two to me? Though that is awesome that he even had a NBA career at all. Not knocking him. Just don't see him sticking?
 
I'm just not really sure about Eubanks. Yeah he's a local guy but if Pops can't get much out of him not sure Chauncey will get anything more.
Dude looks like he is out of the league in the next year or two to me? Though that is awesome that he even had a NBA career at all. Not knocking him. Just don't see him sticking?
He seems like a tween'er to me at the 4/5.
 
I'm just not really sure about Eubanks. Yeah he's a local guy but if Pops can't get much out of him not sure Chauncey will get anything more.
Dude looks like he is out of the league in the next year or two to me? Though that is awesome that he even had a NBA career at all. Not knocking him. Just don't see him sticking?

We’ll see. He will have plenty of minutes to prove himself the rest of the season. I don’t think pop really wanted to trade him but they had more invested in Collins.
 
We’ll see. He will have plenty of minutes to prove himself the rest of the season. I don’t think pop really wanted to trade him but they had more invested in Collins.
I would have rather kept Collins but i do understand why they moved on from him.
 
whats the maximum extension nurk can sign

given we didnt re-signed him yet, it probably means hell get more than that

his 1st year on exstension would be 14 per, but what about rest of the years, how much can the salary rise
 
I'm just not really sure about Eubanks. Yeah he's a local guy but if Pops can't get much out of him not sure Chauncey will get anything more.
Dude looks like he is out of the league in the next year or two to me? Though that is awesome that he even had a NBA career at all. Not knocking him. Just don't see him sticking?
He'd be a good practice body and 3rd string C/PF
 
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