Nurkic leaving?

[Mr. Robot]

you cant compare regular season to the playoffs, its different bball

when things are not working, you need to make a change, you simply cant keep doing the same thing over and over and hope for the best

billups will make our offense great, i have no doubts about it, cause we have great personnel for offense, but i do agree that we need better personnel on defense (not carmelo and kanter, first and foremost)

 

[Labinot41]

Nurk is 3:13 in the Playoffs, just sayin

 

[tykendo]

Nurk is 3:13 in the Playoffs, just sayin

Then i guess it's time to turn that around.

 

[tykendo]

John Elway was 0 - 3 in the Super Bowl, then he won 2.

 

[andalusian]

John Elway was 0 - 3 in the Super Bowl, then he won 2.

If the Blazers were 0 - 3 with Nurkic in the NBA finals this analogy would have made sense.

 

[tykendo]

If the Blazers were 0 - 3 with Nurkic in the NBA finals this analogy would have made sense.

Not necessarily. The 2-0 team was an almost completely different team, from the 0-3 teams, but after suffering what was deemed, a franchise changing loss in '96, with minimal ,though key, moves, won it all the next 2 years.

 

[tykendo]

And they didn't add any superstar players. Just some key, even aging, veterans. And a hunger, and mindset to get it done.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

And they didn't add any superstar players. Just some key, even aging, veterans. And a hunger, and mindset to get it done.

Yes, but they had a budding hall-of-famer on the roster. So who's our Terrell Davis?

 

[tykendo]

C'mon Man! Trust the process

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Yes, but they had a budding hall-of-famer on the roster. So who's our Terrell Davis?

Nassir Little

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I don’t think I can handle another Nurk/Jokic matchup in the playoffs.

Joker barely has to break a sweat to put up 20/10/5 on Nurk.

….and sometimes by halftime

 

[Mr. Robot]

I don’t think I can handle another Nurk/Jokic matchup in the playoffs.

Joker barely has to break a sweat to put up 20/10/5 on Nurk.

….and sometimes by halftime

nurk was guarding jokic well (except for idiotic fouls)

people act like jokic scored all of his pts over nurk

have in mind that jokic is the mvp and top 10 player in the league and perhaps best center in the league

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I would like Nurk to work on one skill at a time until he is really good at each. 1. Learn to keep the ball up high. 2. Learn how to dunk in traffic; he has the size and athleticism to be able to do this. 3. Perfect a short range shot facing the basket from 8-12 out. 4. work on his 3 pt. shot.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Dunk Nurk. DUNK THE BALL!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Nassir Little

OK sure--if Nas has a Terrell-Davis-like production explosion next year, then this roster is contender level.

I ain't hangin' my hat on that.

 

[HailBlazers]

I would like Nurk to work on one skill at a time until he is really good at each. 1. Learn to keep the ball up high. 2. Learn how to dunk in traffic; he has the size and athleticism to be able to do this. 3. Perfect a short range shot facing the basket from 8-12 out. 4. work on his 3 pt. shot.

Agreed. A la Marc Gasol. Wasn't till way later he added the three point shot.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Agreed. A la Marc Gasol. Wasn't till way later he added the three point shot.

yes, in his late 20s

 

[GDiama]

I would like Nurk to work on one skill at a time until he is really good at each. 1. Learn to keep the ball up high. 2. Learn how to dunk in traffic; he has the size and athleticism to be able to do this. 3. Perfect a short range shot facing the basket from 8-12 out. 4. work on his 3 pt. shot.

All this yes, but first learn not to foul like an idiot

 

[wizenheimer]

about the Gasol/Nurkic comparison on three's. I'd think one indicator of potential is FT% and Gasol has a career mark of 78% while Nurkic has a career mark of 67%. Nurkic has had one season of shooting over 70% on FT's. Gasol has had 12

obviously, this isn't a perfect gauge at all, but can indicate shooting ability. As good as Gasol has been, his career mark is only 36% on three's. If Nurkic can't hit 34-35% I would not want him shooting many at all, especially considering he has a career FT rate of .363

 

[Mr. Robot]

about the Gasol/Nurkic comparison on three's. I'd think one indicator of potential is FT% and Gasol has a career mark of 78% while Nurkic has a career mark of 67%. Nurkic has had one season of shooting over 70% on FT's. Gasol has had 12

obviously, this isn't a perfect gauge at all, but can indicate shooting ability. As good as Gasol has been, his career mark is only 36% on three's. If Nurkic can't hit 34-35% I would not want him shooting many at all, especially considering he has a career FT rate of .363

nurk was 12/30 (40%) on 3-pointers last season

obviously small sample size, but it shows improvement in his shot compared to previous seasons

- in his first 4 seasons, he was shooting 3-pointers 0-13
- in his 5th season, he was shooting 3-pointers 3-29
- in his 6th season, he was shooting 3-pointers (2-10), that was in the bubble after not playing 16 months

 

[blazerkor]

nurk was 12/30 (40%) on 3-pointers last season

obviously small sample size, but it shows improvement in his shot compared to previous seasons

Obviously a small sample size?!? That's what you have to say for that. That's three games for Dame... so yeah we can't judge off of that sample size and I do think that @wizenheimer had a good point with the free throw shooting comparison. That being said, I'd love for Nurk to prove that he can hit 2 threes a game at 40%.

 

[Mr. Robot]

marc gasol was 31 yo when he started shooting 3-pointers a lot

prior to that, the most 3-pointers he took in the season was 17

on that small sample size, nurk was better 3-pointer shooter than gasol

 

[blazerkor]

marc gasol was 31 yo when he started shooting 3-pointers a lot

prior to that, the most 3-pointers he took in the season was 17

on that small sample size, nurk was better 3-pointer shooter than gasol

Let's hope man... because I hope that we land Simmons in a CJ trade and it would be great if Nurk could hit a couple of threes per game so him and Simmons make sense together.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Let's hope man... because I hope that we land Simmons in a CJ trade and it would be great if Nurk could hit a couple of threes per game so him and Simmons make sense together.

nurk played 37 games (and took 30 threes) last season and if he played like 70+ games, he probably wouldve shoot 50+ threes, so it only makes sense that he keeps shooting threes and on bigger sample size

by that logic, nurk should shoot over 100 threes next season, but who knows if billups will want nurk to shoot threes

bigger sample size is the only way to know if he can shoot 33% or better from 3-point land

 

[wizenheimer]

Let's hope man... because I hope that we land Simmons in a CJ trade and it would be great if Nurk could hit a couple of threes per game so him and Simmons make sense together.

ok....let's deal with that then

from what I've read, Simmons and Embiid had issues because Embiid was 'clogging' the lane for Simmons, reducing the primary options Simmons uses for engaging teammates. Simmons and Embiid apparently were stepping on each other's toes to much. I don't know if that was the real issue but I've certainly read that in a lot of places

if true, there is this: Embiid's average shot distance was 11.8'. Meanwhile, the average shot distance for Nurkic was 5.7'. In other words, Embiid's offense came at an average distance that was more than twice as far from the hoop as Nurkic's.

Obviously, Nurkic can adjust his offensive game, especially under new coaching. But, if the problem between Simmons and Embiid was where they operate, I have a really hard time seeing Simmons and Nurkic developing any synergy, even if Nurkic shoots 3 three's a game.

 

[Pinwheel1]

ok....let's deal with that then

from what I've read, Simmons and Embiid had issues because Embiid was 'clogging' the lane for Simmons, reducing the primary options Simmons uses for engaging teammates. Simmons and Embiid apparently were stepping on each other's toes to much. I don't know if that was the real issue but I've certainly read that in a lot of places

Could be but it does not make sense to me. I am guessing that their personalities were the bigger factor. Looking in from the outside with no knowledge of the situation at all.....both Embiid and Simmons might not be able to coexist because of their prima donna personalities. I doubt Embiid's trash-talking is only reserved for opponents. He wears his emotions on his sleeve and his facial expressions are easy to read. Simmons on the other hand seems to be overly sensitive. (Think LMA) At this part of Dame's career, I bet he would be perfect for Simmons.

As far as Nurk......they could work. But I would love to see a version of the triangle offense with Dame, NP, and Simmons dominating the touches with two very good 3 pt shooters spreading the floor. That might mean trading Nurk for a better 3 pt shooting center

 

[wizenheimer]

Could be but it does not make sense to me. I am guessing that their personalities were the bigger factor. Looking in from the outside with no knowledge of the situation at all.....both Embiid and Simmons might not be able to coexist because of their prima donna personalities. I doubt Embiid's trash-talking is only reserved for opponents. He wears his emotions on his sleeve and his facial expressions are easy to read. Simmons on the other hand seems to be overly sensitive. (Think LMA) At this part of Dame's career, I bet he would be perfect for Simmons.

As far as Nurk......they could work. But I would love to see a version of the triangle offense with Dame, NP, and Simmons dominating the touches with two very good 3 pt shooters spreading the floor. That might mean trading Nurk for a better 3 pt shooting center

good points

 

[blazerkor]

nurk played 37 games (and took 30 threes) last season and if he played like 70+ games, he probably wouldve shoot 50+ threes, so it only makes sense that he keeps shooting threes and on bigger sample size

by that logic, nurk should shoot over 100 threes next season, but who knows if billups will want nurk to shoot threes

bigger sample size is the only way to know if he can shoot 33% or better from 3-point land

In order to have any kind of impact we need him making a three a game so he better be putting up around 240 threes in the season, assuming he stays healthy which is assuming a lot.

 

[Mr. Robot]

In order to have any kind of impact we need him making a three a game so he better be putting up around 240 threes in the season, assuming he stays healthy which is assuming a lot.

so we agree that he needs to keep shootin em

he has a nice mechanics on his 3-pointer, it can definitely become legit

 

[Idog1976]

Nurk often doesn't play heavy minutes. I would also work to always have Simmons on the floor when Nurk is not on the floor. Simmons is young so you can play him for nearly unlimited minutes. I think Simmons being traded is just the wake-up call he will need and we can surround him with 3pt shooters. That said, I'm totally fine with trading Nurk for a PF/C who can hit the three if we do indeed land Simmons.