I never mentioned the Folsom Street fair! The first mention came from oldguy.
Yes, the Folsom Street fair is seen by many to be over the top. Unlike the Pride Parade it is not billed as a family event. It takes place in limited time and space. Anyone who finds it offensive simply need not go. How simple is that?
I brought up the Folsom Street Fair because you and I had a long dispute about it years ago. You portray it as nothing more than a bunch of normal people walking around in leather. You blasted me for saying that it was outrageous and offensive behavior, what with guys wearing nothing but leather chaps walking around in public with their fingers up each other's keesters. You belittled me for saying that that behavior in public was bullshit. And, YES, I would find it offensive if a men and women were walking up the street with their fingers up each other's whatever, and I said so at the time.
Further, I mentioned that google maps seemed to show a massive residential neighborhood adjoining the fair. I asked if it was cordoned off so that kids couldn't wander in and see that kind of behavior. You said, we don't fence off the gays here like they did the Jews in Warsaw. You went on to say that they wouldn't see anything that they wouldn't see in a strip club, which seemed like a pretty dumb statement, since they don't allow kids into strip clubs. And, while I've been in a few strip clubs, I've never seen anyone with their finger up anyone else's business.
The point is that you never admitted that there was anything offensive about what was going on there (and still haven't), and made me out to be making shit up. I even PM'd a mod to ask if I could post pictures from the fair's website to prove my case. They went and looked at the site and said that they would delete the pix I was talking about if I posted them. So, yeah, I brought it up because my experience with you is that you will defend your agenda, no matter what the behavior.
You made it clear that you didn't find anything happening there offensive and that you didn't see a problem with kids attending. If you don't think that behavior is offensive, and not worthy of excluding children from it, I find it hard to visualize what you would find offensive in the gay community.
Of course gay people can be offensive! There is not a human being on the face of the earth who has not been obnoxious and offensive at some point in his/her life. That's the human condition and not confined to any sexual orientation.
And, making out, and rubbing each other all over in a bar is offensive to many. You don't get to define what is and is not offensive to other people.
What I did protest was:
1) double standard - making out in a bar, which I have certainly seen straight couples do, is offensive when a gay couple does it
THERE IS NO DOUBLE STANDARD EXCEPT IN YOUR OWN FUCKING MIND. I said I would find it offensive if a man and women did the same thing. WHERE IS THE DOUBLE STANDARD??? Feel free to ignore the facts to continue your crusade.
2) the implication that making out in a bar somehow means a gay couple is "asking" to be attacked
Doing what they did was asking for trouble. Fortunately, it didn't come to that. You can agree or not, I don't care.
Jihad means holy war. As a lesbian I have been told, for decades, that I was too ugly for a man, too sexy to be gay, deserved to be raped, deserved to be raped with an a) knife b) gun c) so many men that I died from it d) broken glass bottle, e) you name it; that I deserved to be killed, that the man speaking to me had the magic penis that would make me straight, that I was obligated to let straight men watch me make love with a woman, that I was obligated to let a straight man fuck me, that my mother should have aborted me, that I only support legal abortion because it turns women into lesbians, that Jesus would cure me, that Jesus would damn me to eternal hell, and not 5 minutes ago that I should have sex in bars to make money (this from the person who called me offensive). And that is a partial list.
It sucks that assholes said shit like that to you. I'm sorry that you had to endure that.
I have never said any of these things about straight folks. So who is the fucking jihad coming from? Now THAT'S offensive.
Your incessant harping on every single thing gay seems very much like a holy war.
I care that the term jihad offends you about as much as you care that the dorks in the bar offended me.
But no amount of being offensive ever justifies assault.
I didn't say that it did. I didn't imply that it did. Nobody else said or implied that it did. So what is your fucking point?
Go Blazers
