Obama Declares Bin Laden Death As Most Important Day Of Presidencey

[BLAZER PROPHET]

http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...st-important-single-day-of-my-presidency?lite

OK, we were wondering what the President was going to hang his hat on for the upcoming election. Granted he had little to choose from and it was going to come down to Obamacare, symbolic "leaving" Iraq or the death of Bin Laden, as they are his primary accomplishments thus far.

I think he made the right choice.

Last election he campaigned on "it's all Bush's fault" and "change" and it proved successful. Well, that and his eloquence as a speaker and the bumblings of McCain. But he won fair & square and proved to be a tough campaigner.

Now, after ruining the economy, enriching unions and definitively placing it on a track of no possible hope of recovery into bankruptcy and having the "it's all Bush's fault" wearing thin as people realize it's now all Obama's fault he needed a new strategy.

Obamacare would be a fail. An illegal forced national health care pay in system and another program to place the final nail in the coffin for the country economically isn't a strong platform.

He doesn't dare run on his promulgation of class warfare program. It could work, but it has a chance to blow up on him. He's also smartly leaving the dopey "war on women" to members of Congress as it too can be an epic fail due to it's very nature of being a lie.

Now, I think he could have run on the leaving Iraq issue, even though we still have many still there.

But he is blessed with having Mitt to run against and the death of Bin Laden. He has chosen wisely.

 

[Eastoff]

He's also smartly leaving the dopey "war on women" to members of Congress as it too can be an epic fail due to it's very nature of being a lie.

why is it a lie?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

why is it a lie?

You really believe the GOP has entered into some sort of a "war" (such as it is) against all women? I mean, really? That men & women in a political party are intentionally trying to cause direct harm for the sake of doing so to all women?

Frankly, anyone who believes such things are just flat out hateful and deluded to the bone. That's the kind of shit thinking that continues class division and obstruction in the country. In fact, I would dare say it is the primary reason for the reason the two parties refuse to work together for the good of all. Make something up and then sing it.

 

[PapaG]

Obama is a tough guy war president, dontcha know? His biggest success is single-handedly killing Obama bin Laden, and celebrating it a year later.

I expect him to show up next on an aircraft carrier in a codpiece.

 

[MARIS61]

You really believe the GOP has entered into some sort of a "war" (such as it is) against all women? I mean, really? That men & women in a political party are intentionally trying to cause direct harm for the sake of doing so to all women?

Frankly, anyone who believes such things are just flat out hateful and deluded to the bone. That's the kind of shit thinking that continues class division and obstruction in the country. In fact, I would dare say it is the primary reason for the reason the two parties refuse to work together for the good of all. Make something up and then sing it.

If you are trying to deny that the Reps have ever been anything but an albatross around the neck of women's rights you've got your head in the sand.

 

[PapaG]

If you are trying to deny that the Reps have ever been anything but an albatross around the neck of women's rights you've got your head in the sand.

Well, except that Republicans started the women's suffrage movement, and the first woman elected to Congress was a Republican.

 

[Eastoff]

You really believe the GOP has entered into some sort of a "war" (such as it is) against all women? I mean, really? That men & women in a political party are intentionally trying to cause direct harm for the sake of doing so to all women?

Frankly, anyone who believes such things are just flat out hateful and deluded to the bone. That's the kind of shit thinking that continues class division and obstruction in the country. In fact, I would dare say it is the primary reason for the reason the two parties refuse to work together for the good of all. Make something up and then sing it.

Why do they keep attacking Planned Parenthood?

Not since 1988 has the republican party won the woman's vote.

Bill O’Reilly may not be defending Rush Limbaugh this week, however he did defend insurance coverage of Viagra rather than that of birth control.

Men > Women ?

 

[PapaG]

Why do they keep attacking Planned Parenthood?

Not since 1988 has the republican party won the woman's vote.

Men > Women ?

Because Planned Parenthood has federally-funded abortions, and some people don't believe in abortion? Seems pretty obvious to me.

 

[Eastoff]

Well, except that Republicans started the women's suffrage movement, and the first woman elected to Congress was a Republican.

I won't try to deny that Republicans in the past have been decent. But I think the definition of a Republican and a Democrat changed with the civil rights movement and then again in 1999

 

[PapaG]

Isn't aborting female fetuses anti-women?

 

[Eastoff]

Because Planned Parenthood has federally-funded abortions, and some people don't believe in abortion? Seems pretty obvious to me.

And somepeople don't like blue cheese, but that doesn't mean you should dislike all cheese.

 

[PapaG]

I won't try to deny that Republicans in the past have been decent. But I think the definition of a Republican and a Democrat changed with the civil rights movement and then again in 1999

Democrats filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and more GOP members voted for these acts in the 1960s than Democrats.

Perhaps a history lesson would be in order?

 

[Eastoff]

Democrats filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and more GOP members voted for these acts in the 1960s than Democrats.

Perhaps a history lesson would be in order?

Yes, that's my point, it has since changed. I know that the democrats used to cater the white vote in the south.*

 

[PapaG]

And somepeople don't like blue cheese, but that doesn't mean you should dislike all cheese.

It has more to do with taxpayer money being used for abortion services. I really don't care; it's not an issue for me, but I can understand why some people would object to killing babies.

 

[Eastoff]

It has more to do with taxpayer money being used for abortion services. I really don't care; it's not an issue for me, but I can understand why some people would object to killing babies.

yes but that is 3% of their funding.

 

[PapaG]

Yes, that's my point, it has since changed. I know that the democrats used to cater the white vote in the south.*

Now the cater to the black vote by keeping as many of them as they can on public assistance. A paid for voting bloc. Quite the disgusting strategy, but it's worked.

 

[Eastoff]

Now the cater to the black vote by keeping as many of them as they can on public assistance. A paid for voting bloc. Quite the disgusting strategy, but it's worked.

Are you implying they don't want the black vote to have no money or that they try to keep them impoverished?

 

[PapaG]

yes but that is 3% of their funding.

100% of the babies aborted are killed. Again, some people obvious have an issue with any tax dollars going to legalized murder. I'm not sure why that is part of a "war on women", though. Whatever happened to the more gentle rhetoric that Obama and other Dems lectured us about after the Jared Loughner murders?


Seems more like a War on Intelligence, IMO, since only the true bootlickers could possibly believe that there is literally an anti-women agenda in the GOP.

 

[PapaG]

Are you implying they don't want the black vote to have no money or that they try to keep them impoverished?

Yeah, that was the purpose of LBJ's Great Society. It worked. Keep the blacks on the public dole, incite racial tensions to unify them, and bus them to polling places on election day. That was Obama's job in Chicago for ACORN. I don't view things through a racial prism, I just observe cause and effect.

 

[Eastoff]

just for giggles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_United_States_Senate#Current_women_senators

 

[Eastoff]

Yeah, that was the purpose of LBJ's Great Society. It worked. Keep the blacks on the public dole, incite racial tensions to unify them, and bus them to polling places on election day. That was Obama's job in Chicago for ACORN. I don't view things through a racial prism, I just observe cause and effect.

You didn't directly answer my question, it was an "A or B" not a True or False.

 

[PapaG]

You didn't directly answer my question, it was an "A or B" not a True or False.

I answered the question. Social programs, terrible education, and a deteriorating inner city keep a large number of black voters on public assistance. You then point to the other guy and say "he's going to take it away from you, in part because of the color of your skin. Oh, and any of you who go to hear the other guy's ideas will be called an Uncle Tom and shunned".

If you don't agree, no biggie. I just observe and comment.

 

[Eastoff]

I answered the question. Social programs, terrible education, and a deteriorating inner city keep a large number of black voters on public assistance. You then point to the other guy and say "he's going to take it away from you, in part because of the color of your skin. Oh, and any of you who go to hear the other guy's ideas will be called an Uncle Tom and shunned".

If you don't agree, no biggie. I just observe and comment.

Thank you, I felt that was a more direct answer. I couldn't tell (probably from a lack of knowledge) what you were actually saying on the subject in the previous post.

 

[PapaG]

Thank you, I felt that was a more direct answer. I couldn't tell (probably from a lack of knowledge) what you were actually saying on the subject in the previous post.

I view it more as a voting strategy than anything else. I'm sure you disagree with it, but that's fine!

 

[Eastoff]

I view it more as a voting strategy than anything else. I'm sure you disagree with it, but that's fine!

I think that the stereotypical Republican wants to kick poor people off welfare. I think that a disproportionate amount of blacks are on welfare.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Why do they keep attacking Planned Parenthood?

Not since 1988 has the republican party won the woman's vote.

Men > Women ?

You're assuming that every republican is against every aspect of planned parenthood. That's so wrong thinking it's not worth discussing. No offense, but it's a mentality that is so intentionally wrong as to be mentally challenged. Not you personally, but that type of thinking.

 

[Eastoff]

You're assuming that every republican is against every aspect of planned parenthood. That's so wrong thinking it's not worth discussing. No offense, but it's a mentality that is so intentionally wrong as to be mentally challenged. Not you personally, but that type of thinking.

Well do republicans say "I'm for Planned parenthood, just not the abortion part." or do they say "I am against planned parenthood." without specifying? Do they not associate planned parenthood strictly with abortions, and ignore all the indisputable good things?

 

[PapaG]

Well do republicans say "I'm for Planned parenthood, just not the abortion part." or do they say "I am against planned parenthood." without specifying? Do they not associate planned parenthood strictly with abortions, and ignore all the indisputable good things?

It's tough tell understand what these unknown Republicans are saying, with all of their warring on women and stuff.

Seriously though, please tell me that you're joking?

Planned Parenthood gets federal funding.

Planned Parenthood performs abortions.

A lot of people are morally opposed to abortion, and don't want tax money to support it.

I won't even get into the stupid "contraception" argument, because again, it doesn't impact me, and I don't care about it. I do feel that a church has the right to not offer free contraception to women on their health plans, though.

 

[Eastoff]

It's tough tell understand what these unknown Republicans are saying, with all of their warring on women and stuff.

Seriously though, please tell me that you're joking?

Planned Parenthood gets federal funding.

Planned Parenthood performs abortions.

A lot of people are morally opposed to abortion, and don't want tax money to support it.

I won't even get into the stupid "contraception" argument, because again, it doesn't impact me, and I don't care about it. I do feel that a church has the right to not offer free contraception to women on their health plans, though.

If Christian Science believers owned a store, could they refuse to supply any medical plans?

 

[PapaG]

If Christian Science believers owned a store, could they refuse to supply any medical plans?

Of course. Employers aren't mandated to offer health insurance to their employees as it is. Fewer companies will be offering plans as expenses rise in the coming years. It's typically been a way to attract employees, but as costs for private insurance rise due to the pre-existing condition part of ObamaCare, and jobs increasingly become more difficult to find, fewer companies will need to offer insurance plans.