Obama/Romney Debate: ROUND II

[blazerboy30]

Quit playing the fool.

Tax evasion is why people put their money offshore.

It's legal, and I'm not saying it isn't.

But it's enormously revealing as to the person's character, or lack of.

He puts his own private gain ahead of his country's health, and that's not the kind of person I want running America, for obvious reasons.

Stop taking the mortgage interest deduction. It's legal, but that fact that you use it shows your lack of character.

 

[Denny Crane]

Anyhow, my take on the debates has been pretty consistent. I've mentioned in the past that what people perceive of Romney is what's been filtered by the media and caricature painted by hundreds of $millions in attack ads. The convention and the debates are truly the only forum where Romney gets to address the people without those filters. The first debate may have exposed Obama for being the empty chair that Clint said he was (Obama didn't show, eh?). But it really contrasted Romney with all the negative crap about him that's been thrown against the wall to see what might stick. People saw for themselves that he's actually a human being.

The election proper should be a rerun of 1980. And that's what is happening with the polls. They're moving in Romney's direction in a hurry, as they did for Reagan. My judgment is that it's not a question of if Romney can find a path to 270 electoral votes at this point, it's a matter of if there's enough time left - like a basketball team furiously erasing a huge deficit as the clock in Q4 is running out.

My expectation for tonight's debate is a draw. Obama can't do worse than he did last time - I don't think it's feasible. I don't expect Romney to do any worse, either.

The script for tonight is fairly obvious to me.

Obama: "I inherited a bad situation."
Romney: "quit blaming everyone but yourself, you had 4 years and failed."

And that opens up the old Reagan "there you go again" line should Obama continue to blame Bush, republicans, congress, etc.

Obama: "blah blah blah 47%" (my note - MSNBC is claiming Obama will bring that up)
Romney: "they taught us in law school that when the facts aren't on your side, bang on the table; you are seeing the president bang on the table."

Rinse, repeat for any personal attack, including being called a liar.

The brutal truth is Obama is in a box that's tough to see a way out of.

The reason I say it's going to be a draw is that those who support the president will be pleased that he brought up the 47% and that a different Obama (confident? prepared!) shows up. Also, I don't see anything short of an outright failure on Romney's part and superstar type performance from Obama changing the direction of the polls.

 

[ABM]

Might have to rent this for some pre-debate entertainment:

 

[Denny Crane]

Here's Robert Reich's advice to Obama for the debate. I don't think Obama's listened to anything Reich has had to say before now.

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/memo_to_potus_be_more_passionate/

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Who was the fall guy for 9/11 2001 and Bush? 3000 people is pretty rough!

Bush.

 

[speeds]

Reich's mother's maiden name is Dorf.

Probably a few people who will get the dated reference and how it might be related to RR.

 

[MARIS61]

Stop taking the mortgage interest deduction. It's legal, but that fact that you use it shows your lack of character.

Lame strawman, even for you.

I don't owe enough on my home to take it, but all of my investments are in America, not foreign countries like Romney.

 

[MARIS61]

Awesome. Next time some mexican buyer wants to buy a house from you, let him pay in pesos.

You are playing the fool.

I refuse to take foreign clients as I don't believe it should be legal to sell American real estate to foreign interests.

 

[Denny Crane]

I refuse to take foreign clients as I don't believe it should be legal to sell American real estate to foreign interests.

Of course it's legal. It's a free country.

BB30 rightly pointed out that there's nothing in the least (in the least, in the least, in the least!) illegal, immoral, or unethical about having overseas bank accounts. It simply means you do business overseas.

 

[Denny Crane]

Do you trust Nate Silver?

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...te/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[blazerboy30]

Lame strawman, even for you.

I don't owe enough on my home to take it, but all of my investments are in America, not foreign countries like Romney.

Then if you have any true character, you'll pay full income tax on your investments and not capital gains tax.

 

[PapaG]

Taking deductions on federal taxes is also legal, but it means you're not a patriot by trying to keep more of you money instead of giving it to Uncle Sam.

People who claim any tax deductions hate America.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Do you trust Nate Silver?

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...te/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Or George Soros?

 

[Denny Crane]

Romney seemed overly excited his first answer.

Obama giving an answer that people would post TL;DR

 

[RoyToy]

Obama mojo is back in that first answer

 

[RoyToy]

What a liar lmao

Wow

 

[illmatic99]

The switched ties. lol

Barack hasn't said "uh" once yet, and he's bringing the heat btw

 

[ABM]

Adrian!

 

[Denny Crane]

Oil imports are down because there's so many people out of work they can't afford to drive.

 

[illmatic99]

I can't take Candy seriously after this:

[video=youtube;8_IULFPZj0Y]

 

[illmatic99]

oh shiet. face to face. Don't get too close, Mitt. Barack gonna knock you out.

 

[Denny Crane]

Romney's off in the weeds on the drilling on federal land bit. He's right, but wasting time.

 

[RoyToy]

This is some heated debating

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama's wrong about the pipeline.

 

[ABM]

Obama is full of crap saying that the (low) price of gas was commensurate with the lousy economy.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

romney looks frustrated, not a good look for him

 

[RoyToy]

Romey disrespecting the moderator

 

[3RA1N1AC]

hahahah! its my turn!!

 

[illmatic99]

Can't believe how similar this debate is to this:

[video=youtube;dX_1B0w7Hzc]

 

[3RA1N1AC]

umm, im pretty sure its my turn