Obama Skips National Security Team Meeting on Russia, Ukraine

[DaLincolnJones]

LOL

[video=youtube;2Dly52zARCk]

Literally, laughed out fucking loud...damn the dumbocrats got another one right..

 

[Natebishop3]

If they are invading to annex, they should be stopped. Nobody expected the US to annex Iraq when we invaded back in 2003. We may still have interests there, but we didn't make them into our vassals. This seems like Russia is trying to put the band back together. It cannot be allowed.

 

[barfo]

Weird how the Russians didn't announce sanctions against Georgia until 1/19/09, right? Derp

Sanctions? Seriously, that's all you got? That was 6 months after Russia invaded Georgia.

barfo

 

[DaLincolnJones]

If they are invading to annex, they should be stopped. Nobody expected the US to annex Iraq when we invaded back in 2003. We may still have interests there, but we didn't make them into our vassals. This seems like Russia is trying to put the band back together. It cannot be allowed.

what...we go to war with Russia over a splintered off section of the old USSR? Are you on the POTUS foreign diplomatic team? Sounds like it...another "line in the sand" moment, wooohooo

 

[Natebishop3]

what...we go to war with Russia over a splintered off section of the old USSR? Are you on the POTUS foreign diplomatic team? Sounds like it...another "line in the sand" moment, wooohooo

I'm not talking unilaterally. I think NATO and the rest of the world needs to throw the gauntlet down economically. They already have sort of. Russian stocks have plunged and their currency is at an all-time low.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

It's an OUTRAGE! An OUTRAGE I tell you! No need to determine facts, we know it's an OUTRAGE! Five years in office and nothing but OUTRAGE! OUTRAGE I tell you!

As they said in In the Heat of the Night, "someone needs to teach that black boy some manners".

ya know, I went back and read this entire useless thread, and all that comes to mind when I get to this post is, What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I'm not talking unilaterally. I think NATO and the rest of the world needs to throw the gauntlet down economically. They already have sort of. Russian stocks have plunged and their currency is at an all-time low.

WHAT????
SON, our stock market fell yesterday and last I checked was down today..Russian economy is in fact more stable than our propped up , BS, government buying trillions of dollars of bonds to support the stock market, false economic lie that also props up a failed presidential agenda..

Ukraine is the one who has had a large portion of its economic base undermined by the governing powers..

 

[donkiez]

If they are invading to annex, they should be stopped. Nobody expected the US to annex Iraq when we invaded back in 2003. We may still have interests there, but we didn't make them into our vassals. This seems like Russia is trying to put the band back together. It cannot be allowed.

I think it will stop with Crimea. Russia doesn't want to loose the most important non arctic port in their empire and the chaos in the Ukraine could cause them issues with that. IF their motives are only to annex Crimea to keep their commerce and military in tact, is it worth a major conflict to keep Crimea part of the Ukraine whey they are primarily Russian ethnicity? Its a power move and a dick move by Putin, but he knows he can get away with it as long as thats all that goes down, thats why I dont see it escalating. Russia has always done shit like this, every conflict they get involved in they swoop in and start claiming shit.

Now on the flip side Russia could be viewing the westernization of a primary buffer state as a major threat, I even read something about western missile defense construction planning, which could make Russia nervous. If this is the case who knows what their full agenda is.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think it will stop with Crimea. Russia doesn't want to loose the most important non arctic port in their empire and the chaos in the Ukraine could cause them issues with that. IF their motives are only to annex Crimea to keep their commerce and military in tact, is it worth a major conflict to keep Crimea part of the Ukraine whey they are primarily Russian ethnicity? Its a power move and a dick move by Putin, but he knows he can get away with it as long as thats all that goes down, thats why I dont see it escalating. Russia has always done shit like this, every conflict they get involved in they swoop in and start claiming shit.

Now on the flip side Russia could be viewing the westernization of a primary buffer state as a major threat, I even read something about western missile defense construction planning, which could make Russia nervous. If this is the case who knows what their full agenda is.

It seems pretty obvious they want to restore the glory of the old days. This kind of aggressive behavior is very concerning. It's the kind of thing that leads to world wars.

 

[barfo]

WHAT????
SON, our stock market fell yesterday and last I checked was down today..Russian economy is in fact more stable than our propped up , BS, government buying trillions of dollars of bonds to support the stock market, false economic lie that also props up a failed presidential agenda..

Ukraine is the one who has had a large portion of its economic base undermined by the governing powers..

Russian stock market down 11%. Our markets are down 1% today. Not sure about yesterday, last I heard our stock market was closed on Sundays.

barfo

 

[BlazerWookee]

Lowest Common Denominator

You're better than this.

No, he really isn't.

 

[MarAzul]

If they are invading to annex, they should be stopped. Nobody expected the US to annex Iraq when we invaded back in 2003. We may still have interests there, but we didn't make them into our vassals. This seems like Russia is trying to put the band back together. It cannot be allowed.

After a moments thought, I don't want to send my grandsons to fight over the Ukraine.
How about you?

 

[MarAzul]

ya know, I went back and read this entire useless thread, and all that comes to mind when I get to this post is, What the fuck are you talking about?

Ha! I had the same question, then I decided I didn't care.

 

[maxiep]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/02/ex-cia-chief-why-we-get-putin-wrong.html

 

[Eastoff]

If you guys hate Obama so much. And hate gay right so much. And want more Christianity in your finances so much. I think you should move to Russia.

 

[Natebishop3]

After a moments thought, I don't want to send my grandsons to fight over the Ukraine.
How about you?

Yes, because it's all about Ukraine, just like it was all about Poland in WWII?

 

[Eastoff]

Yes, because it's all about Ukraine, just like it was all about Poland in WWII?

What are you implying?

 

[Eastoff]

All American political banter aside, I am nervous about this situation.

 

[Natebishop3]

I would rather not see the cold war return.

 

[maxiep]

All American political banter aside, I am nervous about this situation.

You should be. Totalitarian forces are on the march, militarily (Russia), spiritually (Iran) and economically (China). Meanwhile the West is too occupied with obtaining even more entitlements to make our lives more comfortable.

 

[maxiep]

I would rather not see the cold war return.

It's not our choice. And better another Cold War than a hot one.

 

[Eastoff]

You should be. Totalitarian forces are on the march, militarily (Russia), spiritually (Iran) and economically (China). Meanwhile the West is too occupied with obtaining even more entitlements to make our lives more comfortable.

Are you defining entitlements as healthcare for the poor or right to marriage for all?

Back on topic, I had heard China was in agreement with Russia about actions in Ukraine.

 

[Eastoff]

Oh god... I think I'm going to throw up!

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/03...d-ya-so-on-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-103825

 

[maxiep]

Are you defining entitlements as healthcare for the poor or right to marriage for all?

Back on topic, I had heard China was in agreement with Russia about actions in Ukraine.

Are you so addled by Democrat talking points you actually believe that I would not want people to get healthcare because they're poor or that marriage is an "entitlement"?

 

[maxiep]

Oh god... I think I'm going to throw up!

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/03...d-ya-so-on-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-103825

You don't think she's entitled? She was right, and was ripped for it.

 

[maxiep]

Welcome to a world where the US retreats.

We get what we deserve. Next, China goes after the Spratleys.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Are you so addled by Democrat talking points you actually believe that I would not want people to get healthcare because they're poor or that marriage is an "entitlement"?

hahahha no shit..I had this discussion yesterday with a guy, he had the balls to say "You hate poor people!"

I responded that he was almost correct, I hate the fact that in this day and age, that there are so many people that are poor. Seem that no one can comprehend the "teach a man to fish" concept anymore...

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Ok, ok, now I see the master plan. Finally a response to a conflict...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tiations-with-palestinians/?intcmp=latestnews

oh wait...not Russia? he threatens a friend?

 

[MarAzul]

If you guys hate Obama so much. And hate gay right so much. And want more Christianity in your finances so much. I think you should move to Russia.

Learn something before you post.

 

[MarAzul]

Are you so addled by Democrat talking points you actually believe that I would not want people to get healthcare because they're poor or that marriage is an "entitlement"?

That was a rep.