Obama: "The Private Sector Is Doing Fine"

[EL PRESIDENTE]

that was from yahoo actually.

news.yahoo.com

 

[PapaG]

that was from yahoo actually.

news.yahoo.com

I thought for sure it was a meme mocking him. Maybe Yahoo's Friday pm editors have a sense of humor!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

omg i am loling

 

[blazerboy30]

Haha, the blue collar workers are the reason UPS exists. The nerdy asians are basically engineering a way for dumbass managers to micro-manage the job even more. They implement DIAD programs to get delivering the package down to a 'T'. The company thrived and was prosperous decades before this technology. In essence, the nerdy asian is hired by UPS to find a way to eliminate more driving jobs by cutting corners.

Oh wow. There are so many things wrong in this paragraph, it's embarrassing.

 

[MickZagger]

Oh wow. There are so many things wrong in this paragraph, it's embarrassing.

Ummm no. You don't have any understanding about the dynamics of UPS.

Try again.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

"IT'LL GET THERE WHEN IT GETS THERE"

:MARIS61:

 

[blazerboy30]

Ummm no. You don't have any understanding about the dynamics of UPS.

Try again.

You're totally right...

UPS operated before the huge technological advancements of the last 20 years, so there is no need to take advantage of optimizations that couldn't have been done decades ago. No need to work on hedging against fuel costs. No need to figure out optimal delivery routes and schedules. No need to determine the optimal pricing structures. I'm sure their competitors wouldn't make those advancements.

The success of UPS entirely hinges on the incredibly sophisticated job of workers driving trucks and carrying boxes.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You just can't *replace* physical labor.....

{Poasted via palm pilot}

 

[PapaG]

Chris Christie eviscerates Obama, although I think Christie gives Obama too much credit for actually having any play at all to truly stimulate the economy.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77215.html

CHICAGO — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie scoffed at President Barack Obama’s comments about state and city governments Friday, saying the remarks are an “outrage” and indicative of the “core differences between who we are and what he represents from America.

“The president fundamentally believes that the way to support our economy is to take more in taxes from all of you and spend it on more public workers who then will pay a fraction of that money back in taxes,” Christie told conservatives gathered at the Conservative Political Action Conference here. “If anybody ran a business like that, they would be out of business quickly, and Barack Obama’s leadership is driving this business — the United States of America — toward a fiscal cliff. We’d better stand together in the next five months and stop him from doing it.”

 

[MickZagger]

You're totally right...

UPS operated before the huge technological advancements of the last 20 years, so there is no need to take advantage of optimizations that couldn't have been done decades ago. No need to work on hedging against fuel costs. No need to figure out optimal delivery routes and schedules. No need to determine the optimal pricing structures. I'm sure their competitors wouldn't make those advancements.

The success of UPS entirely hinges on the incredibly sophisticated job of workers driving trucks and carrying boxes.

These asians aren't creating robots that are going to be sorting or delivering boxes anytime soon...

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/blog/abje_columns/2012/06/hoover-why-ups-is-my-greatest.html

In this age of Wal-Mart and trillion-dollar federal budgets, we are used to seeing giant, hard-to-grasp numbers. But UPS is a human-level business. Use science, technology and algorithms as it might, the guts of the company is still people carrying around packages, often one at a time.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

no no no, all we need is to outsource the delivery of ups boxes to malaysia, that way our economy will prosper

hopefully soon, we can get rid of all these unions so we can be a 3rd world country ourselves, and finally be competitive again

 

[PapaG]

I got one word for you.

Logistics. Er, plastics.

 

[blazerboy30]

These asians aren't creating robots that are going to be sorting or delivering boxes anytime soon...

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/blog/abje_columns/2012/06/hoover-why-ups-is-my-greatest.html

Those sorters and truck drivers are really hard to replace.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Those sorters and truck drivers are really hard to replace.

the only shitty thing is that you have to replace them with americans, stupid labor laws

 

[MickZagger]

Those sorters and truck drivers are really hard to replace.

Not everyone can cut it. Its tough work, thats no secret.

 

[PapaG]

Those sorters and truck drivers are really hard to replace.

Some drivers and sorters apparently make $100k, but as commerce continues to diminish, either wages will come down, or there will be more layoffs.

I have no problem with UPS drivers making that much bank. My neighbor is a 25-year UPS vet, and they just bought a sweet new Lexus.

Stimulates the economy.

 

[blazerboy30]

Some drivers and sorters apparently make $100k, but as commerce continues to diminish, either wages will come down, or there will be more layoffs.

I have no problem with UPS drivers making that much bank. My neighbor is a 25-year UPS vet, and they just bought a sweet new Lexus.

Stimulates the economy.

I have no problem with it either, but it is absurd to argue that UPS can be competitive without the "nerds" and analysts running the show and just rely on drivers and sorters.

 

[MickZagger]

I have no problem with it either, but it is absurd to argue that UPS can be competitive without the "nerds" and analysts running the show and just rely on drivers and sorters.

One day packages will be sent via ninja stars.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I always send my next day shit via FedEx. to me, it just seems more reliable. they seem to do international shipping better.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

so if the nerds get fired, what, is it hard to find more nerds?

fire everyone!!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

so if the nerds get fired, what, is it hard to find more nerds?

fire everyone!!

the nerds will shut the system down. :MARIS61:

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i just think its funny "oh jeeze WHERE will we find people to carry boxes around"

when fact is, nerds dont want to carry boxes, so they will all be fighting over the nerd jobs, driving the nerd job salaries down, until people are going to deliveryman college so they can make a REAL living

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I hire illegal aliens to lift boxes at my work. mainly to have them sweat. :MARIS61:

 

[MickZagger]

I don't think the average joe can sweat it out making peanuts in the warehouse. Like physical labor, ya know.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I don't think the average joe can sweat it out making peanuts in the warehouse. Like physical labor, ya know.

sorting boxes? yeah. I would die of boredom. but you can't send the dope ass fucking emails like I can.

 

[MickZagger]

sorting boxes? yeah. I would die of boredom.

No. Like picking up thousands of boxes a shift. Turnover rate is at 80%.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No. Like picking up thousands of boxes a shift. Turnover rate is at 80%.

yeah. would get bored mad quickly.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No. Like picking up thousands of boxes a shift. Turnover rate is at 80%.

about the same at my work. but then again, we hire idiots.

 

[PapaG]

I have no problem with it either, but it is absurd to argue that UPS can be competitive without the "nerds" and analysts running the show and just rely on drivers and sorters.

I completely agree with you on that. I do find it funny that a package monster is bemoaning the logistics team, and laughing when he thought it was they who lost their jobs. Every job matters, and UPS is a good company.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i think it is funny that when someone who works hard for a living makes alot of money, all the lazy people call it unfair

once again, teachers, firefighters, and blue collar workers are ruining america