OT Occupy ICE PDX

[barfo]

Maxine Waters and people who support her are feckless cunts.

Didn't realize Ivanka supported Maxine. Interesting.

barfo

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

These idiot protesters need to get a job.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/lo...y-ice-pdx-protesters-owners-say/283-576480995

 

[DaLincolnJones]

These idiot protesters need to get a job.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/lo...y-ice-pdx-protesters-owners-say/283-576480995

Sheesh...attack a food cart because they feel the owner does not support their cause..seems reasonable..

 

[Lanny]

Sheesh...attack a food cart because they feel the owner does not support their cause..seems reasonable..

Please don't equate these shit heads with the movement in general. The leaders of the movement have denounced the actions of the idiots who harassed the food cart people.

Edit: After all, it's not as though the organizers chanted "Jews will not replace us" as they wore Nazi brown shirts and carried lit torches and then had a member drive a car through a crowd of counter protesters killing one and seriously injuring many more.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Just saw a quick live shot on the news. Looks like the cops in Portland are tearing down a homeless encampment. Those ICE protestors should protest that.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

The jobless worthless protestors should have to clean up their trash they left behind, or at least pay for it to get cleaned up. Pisses me off that my tax $$ has to cover the cost.

 

[Lanny]

The jobless worthless protestors should have to clean up their trash they left behind, or at least pay for it to get cleaned up. Pisses me off that my tax $$ has to cover the cost.

Some of them are cleaning it up. They are hoping the police don't arrest them for staying behind to do clean up.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The jobless worthless protestors should have to clean up their trash they left behind, or at least pay for it to get cleaned up. Pisses me off that my tax $$ has to cover the cost.

This situation kinda makes the corporate interests that want cheap illegal labor not look so bad.

I would think these people should have those jobs but could they even hack it?

 

[Orion Bailey]

I don't know anything about this protest but I do know that the cops used NO diplomacy or verbal directives before violently attacking the group....these protesters also had zero training in peaceful demonstration....it escalated quickly and in my view unnecessarily...I'll say that I'd rather see cops with tasers and mace than live rounds though....could'be been much worse...some of the onlookers could have diffused the situation without all the screaming and confrontation...the voice of calm is the way to protest ...cops used to talk to people before shoving them around. Poor showing by all involved

HOw do you know this wasn't tried but omitted from the video? Or done prior to when the recording started?

not really....diplomacy is proper action taken...physical altercation is a last resort....zero Portland

You dont know based on this video that thats what happened.

They weren't in the street either...they were in a driveway

Actually if you look close they were on the street. The cops tried to push them up on the sodewalk. The protestors refused aNd leaned back into them so rhen the cops started arresting them.

These people got whats coming to them.

I live how the girl yells to the cops to get out of her city. I wish she would get the hell out of my City!!

 

[riverman]

HOw do you know this wasn't tried but omitted from the video? Or done prior to when the recording started?



You dont know based on this video that thats what happened.


Actually if you look close they were on the street. The cops tried to push them up on the sodewalk. The protestors refused aNd leaned back into them so rhen the cops started arresting them.

These people got whats coming to them.

I live how the girl yells to the cops to get out of her city. I wish she would get the hell out of my City!!

Dude read the first sentence of my post....it's called a disclaimer....I can flip it and say you didn't know either....it's an AP news feed, not a documentary...I saw enough to make my comment...so I did...don't care to argue the point either....nothing in my post cheered for the kids....I actually said they escalated things...cops however are supposed to be trained to talk them down and use violence as a last resort....maybe you haven't paid much attention but this country has had a serious lack of peace keeping and an uptick in aggression

 

[Orion Bailey]

Dude read the first sentence of my post....it's called a disclaimer....I can flip it and say you didn't know either....it's an AP news feed, not a documentary...I saw enough to make my comment...so I did...don't care to argue the point either....nothing in my post cheered for the kids....I actually said they escalated things...cops however are supposed to be trained to talk them down and use violence as a last resort....maybe you haven't paid much attention but this country has had a serious lack of peace keeping and an uptick in aggression

I wasnt trying to argue.
People can have different views and debate them without it being an argument.

It seemed as though you were advocating the cops dodnt do all the could and all i pointed out is the video doesnt show what happened in the minutes prior to.

No arguement or trying to put anyone down. Just pointing something out to discuss...

Maybe i should not have come over here.

Edit: @riverman i did go back and read your first sentence to make sure i didn't missunderstand you and i am sorry but in your first sentence, you state you know nothing about the protest but you do know that the cops used no diplomacy prior to getting physical.

That is in your first sentance. Not sure why im not able to disagree with that and ask how so based on the video not showing anything prior, either way?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I wasnt trying to argue.
People can have different views and debate them without it being an argument.

It seemed as though you were advocating the cops dodnt do all the could and all i pointed out is the video doesnt show what happened in the minutes prior to.

No arguement or trying to put anyone down. Just pointing something out to discuss...

Maybe i should not have come over here.

Stay

 

[riverman]

I wasnt trying to argue.
People can have different views and debate them without it being an argument.

It seemed as though you were advocating the cops dodnt do all the could and all i pointed out is the video doesnt show what happened in the minutes prior to.

No arguement or trying to put anyone down. Just pointing something out to discuss...

Maybe i should not have come over here.

Edit: @riverman i did go back and read your first sentence to make sure i didn't missunderstand you and i am sorry but in your first sentence, you state you know nothing about the protest but you do know that the cops used no diplomacy prior to getting physical.

That is in your first sentance. Not sure why im not able to disagree with that and ask how so based on the video not showing anything prior, either way?

it's not personal OB.....you led your post with...how do you know and you don't know....I said I don't know...I commented on the cops going for the tasers and mace faced with shouting....this is not good procedure...read my last sentence...I quote...poor showing by all involved but cops can deal with this without throwing people on the ground....that's my view for what it's worth.
You are welcome to weigh in all you want....tell us what you saw ….you wanted the screaming lady out of Portland ...I read that...I want her to calm down and peacefully protest...same as the cops...calm down....be the voice of reason...

 

[Haakzilla]

 

[riverman]

maris is actually a woman?

 

[Lanny]

HOw do you know this wasn't tried but omitted from the video? Or done prior to when the recording started?



You dont know based on this video that thats what happened.


Actually if you look close they were on the street. The cops tried to push them up on the sodewalk. The protestors refused aNd leaned back into them so rhen the cops started arresting them.

These people got whats coming to them.

I live how the girl yells to the cops to get out of her city. I wish she would get the hell out of my City!!

They're altruistic kids. Kids will never be perfect.

I overlook a lot of stuff that kids do. Making mistakes is the major way kids learn right from wrong. Sure, we lecture them 'till we're blue in the face but it doesn't sink in until they goof.

 

[MARIS61]

ANTIFA: Anti Fascist
At least the name stands for something good. Better than KKK or Nazi or White Supremacist.

They stand for anarchy, which is where everyone gets to be a fascist.

 

[MARIS61]

They're altruistic kids. Kids will never be perfect.

I overlook a lot of stuff that kids do. Making mistakes is the major way kids learn right from wrong. Sure, we lecture them 'till we're blue in the face but it doesn't sink in until they goof.

None of them are kids.

All adults, many middle-aged, all losers in life by choice.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

They're altruistic kids. Kids will never be perfect.

I overlook a lot of stuff that kids do. Making mistakes is the major way kids learn right from wrong. Sure, we lecture them 'till we're blue in the face but it doesn't sink in until they goof.

 

[Orion Bailey]

They're altruistic kids. Kids will never be perfect.

I overlook a lot of stuff that kids do. Making mistakes is the major way kids learn right from wrong. Sure, we lecture them 'till we're blue in the face but it doesn't sink in until they goof.

Lanny there is a huge difference between making a mistake and learning from it And making the same mistake over and over all the while refusing to listen to reason and breaking the law in the process. Then forcing others to pay for the clean up of the mess that was created.

With this mind set its kinda like saying kids can do anything cause they are kids. This mentality is part of the growing problem and downfall of society.
No accountability.
Coddling our young so the moment they face adversity, they expect someone else to dig them out of it because that is what they have always had.

To give love to our children is the most important thing we can do, but teaching responsibility and work ethic is a close second and it seems like we, as a society of families, stop after the first.

 

[Lanny]

None of them are kids.

All adults, many middle-aged, all losers in life by choice.

I saw them, they are mostly kids.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I saw them, they are mostly kids.

Runaway homeless teens looking for an excuse to use to prop up thier irrational behavior and lifestyle. Most drug addicts and lazy kids not willing to work hard to pay for a roof over thier head and them go join an activist group of thier beliefs, doing it the right way.

 

[Lanny]

Runaway homeless teens looking for an excuse to use to prop up thier irrational behavior and lifestyle. Most drug addicts and lazy kids not willing to work hard to pay for a roof over thier head and them go join an activist group of thier beliefs, doing it the right way.

Things may have changed but it used to be mostly altruistic college students. It's a natural transitional phase.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Things may have changed but it used to be mostly altruistic college students. It's a natural transitional phase.

Not sure if it has changedcas much across the country. But here, because of our tolerance for teen runaway and homlessness, the disgruntled youth take andvNtage and override any serious agenda that might actually be worth something.

 

[Lanny]

Not sure if it has changedcas much across the country. But here, because of our tolerance for teen runaway and homlessness, the disgruntled youth take andvNtage and override any serious agenda that might actually be worth something.

There have always been teen runaways and homelessness. That's how the NGO, Outside In, got started.

Please note the strong correlation between teen homelessness and the ever growing wage gap. It's a problem that is going to take all of us to improve on.

 

[Orion Bailey]

There have always been teen runaways and homelessness. That's how the NGO, Outside In, got started.

Please note the strong correlation between teen homelessness and the ever growing wage gap. It's a problem that is going to take all of us to improve on.

Teens cant expect to make home mortgage type wages. Too few of them are willing to flip burgers to build work history and show discipline.

The strong corrolation with teen homlessness is lack of quality parenting.
If a child truly feels safe and loved, they will need to be kicked out of the nest, not flee to the streets.

 

[Lanny]

Teens cant expect to make home mortgage type wages. Too few of them are willing to flip burgers to build work history and show discipline.

The strong corrolation with teen homlessness is lack of quality parenting.
If a child truly feels safe and loved, they will need to be kicked out of the nest, not flee to the streets.

Sure, you could blame all our problems on that. However, quality parenting requires that the parents had quality parenting or a substitute for it such as good schools and a good neighborhood. How many kids grow up to take after their parents? Most. You've got to break the cycle.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Sure, you could blame all our problems on that. However, quality parenting requires that the parents had quality parenting or a substitute for it such as good schools and a good neighborhood. How many kids grow up to take after their parents? Most. You've got to break the cycle.

Exactly my point. I believe that starts at conception.

 

[Lanny]

Exactly my point. I believe that starts at conception.

Easier said than done. It's gonna take government intervention and Republicans don't want that. They want it for free.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Easier said than done. It's gonna take government intervention and Republicans don't want that. They want it for free.

Really? I wouldnt say that. Some republicans are for funding for family values education and birth control education.

Its about the direction i suppose. Both parties wNt the roght thing bit have to be so extreme in thier views that there is little compromise.

RepublicNs want sex education...as long as its abstinance only.

Some democrats want family funding in the form of welfare snd food stamps with little to no individual investigTion to where that money actually goes.

Both sides must give in a little if the government is to help families. Until then educate yourself. This world is different. Smaller. Anyone can find out what is going on just about anywhere now. If people want a political voice then the best way to be heard is to not be narrow minded. So be open to new perspectives, keep an open mind and most importantly, learn how to teach yourself.

Cant rely on government for something like this in my opinion. It has to start with the individual.