Occupy Wall Street

[bluefrog]

I worked three jobs to pay my way through school. Minimum wage was $2.50 back then, too.

I'd have never taken a loan for school. I paid in state tuition at a state school. Even today in California, state school tuition isn't so high that you can't pay for it at minimum wage.

My 3 jobs were at a title company, the ice arena, and the USGS. I was able to do homework and study at the ice rink between classes.

Impressive. How were you able to cover rent, health insurance, living expenses, etc...?

 

[blazerboy30]

I have 3 jobs (and a family and I go to school full time). What do you do? How did you pay your way through college?

What school do you go to?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

oh jeez

 

[blazerboy30]

oh jeez

Do you not think it matters in a discussion when people are complaining about the cost of attending college?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[bluefrog]

Do you not think it matters in a discussion when people are complaining about the cost of attending college?

That's a bit forward but I'll humor you.

University of North Carolina

I don't pay full tuition though because I'm on partial scholarship through the research grant I'm working under. I use student loans to help make ends meet with health insurance, medical bills, rent, etc...

 

[blazerboy30]

That's a bit forward but I'll humor you.

University of North Carolina

I don't pay full tuition though because I'm on partial scholarship through the research grant I'm working under. I use student loans to help make ends meet with health insurance, medical bills, rent, etc...

In-state tuition?

 

[Denny Crane]

Impressive. How were you able to cover rent, health insurance, living expenses, etc...?

The school had it's own health clinics for students. I had roommates. And I was really poor all the time.

 

[bluefrog]

In-state tuition?

Yes.

 

[bluefrog]

The school had it's own health clinics for students. I had roommates. And I was really poor all the time.

I think it's an exceptional accomplishment and I respect you for doing it.

 

[Denny Crane]

I think it's an exceptional accomplishment and I respect you for doing it.

One thing that helped is I went to summer school. I got a few credits that way and all the kids went home for the summer so the rents were cheaper, etc.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think the problem is that the original concept of the OW movement was clear, but has since been muddled by the huge overflow of angry young people who have hopped on the bandwagon and added just about anything and everything that pisses them off right now. The movement wasn't about the environment or student loans. Of course if you walk up to a bunch of 20 somethings and ask them why they're mad, they're going to throw out everything under the sun. "I'm mad about the environment, I'm mad about my student loans, I'm mad about the rising cost of video games, I'm mad about my weight gain from eating too much pizza, I'm mad about the cost of beer, I'm mad about that bitch that wouldn't give me her phone number at the club last night because she said I needed to take a shower.... etc"

Nate, I agree completely. Angry young people. Same thing happened in London recently. But who can blame them? The country is in a mess and there's no leadership to get us out of it.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

well, the thing is Obama was supposed to bring hope and change and destroy the "old bonds". young people and the youth movement propelled him into office.

now that they are disenfranchised, they felt cheated. they do not want to admit their mistakes so they blame a convenient enemy, "the rich" for all of their own personal problems.

its the rich's fault they chose majors in $45k a year colleges that would get them no where in life.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

well, the thing is Obama was supposed to bring hope and change and destroy the "old bonds". young people and the youth movement propelled him into office.

now that they are disenfranchised, they felt cheated. they do not want to admit their mistakes so they blame a convenient enemy, "the rich" for all of their own personal problems.

its the rich's fault they chose majors in $45k a year colleges that would get them no where in life.

I also think this is a natural result of the class warfare Obama championed. The idea that wealthy people are evil and their money has to be redistributed to the poor...

On the other hand, I wonder if any of those protesters suddenly inherited 100 million dollars if they would continue to protest or set themselves up like those they are protesting against?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

these people are political puppets and they don't even know it.

 

[barfo]

these people are political puppets and they don't even know it.

Protesting is the Road to Serfdom?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

If they protest at the White House, it'll be eerily similar to the last days of LBJ.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[barfo]

Pray tell, what is that message? Whatever it is, it's not coming across.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Someone hacked the Washington Post again?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ual-suspects/2011/10/11/gIQAVgYPdL_story.html

By the time they got to Woodstock, they were half a million strong. But by the time they assembled on Freedom Plaza on Tuesday morning to plan the day’s civil disobedience, they numbered only 53.

Attempting to emulate the Occupy Wall Street protests, Washington activists and some out-of-town guests set themselves the lofty goal of occupying the Hart Senate Office Building. “We are there to shut the place down!” organizer David Swanson told his small band of followers.

But how to do this with only a few dozen demonstrators? Well, Swanson said, they could push all the buttons on the elevators — the way naughty children sometimes do in apartment buildings. “There are people who are wanting to go into the elevators and fill them and not get out and push all the buttons,” he said. “If you like that, do it.”

 

[bluefrog]

Someone hacked the Washington Post again?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ual-suspects/2011/10/11/gIQAVgYPdL_story.html

By the time they got to Woodstock, they were half a million strong. But by the time they assembled on Freedom Plaza on Tuesday morning to plan the day’s civil disobedience, they numbered only 53.

Attempting to emulate the Occupy Wall Street protests, Washington activists and some out-of-town guests set themselves the lofty goal of occupying the Hart Senate Office Building. “We are there to shut the place down!” organizer David Swanson told his small band of followers.

But how to do this with only a few dozen demonstrators? Well, Swanson said, they could push all the buttons on the elevators — the way naughty children sometimes do in apartment buildings. “There are people who are wanting to go into the elevators and fill them and not get out and push all the buttons,” he said. “If you like that, do it.”

I loved the comments below the article.

Make no mistakes this is Occupy Wall st. they are anarchist that are in bed together and their money comes from the same people.

this is your typical left-wing freak show.

while ocuupiers are drinking, doing drugs and having sex, while trashing every place they go, TP members bring garbage bags and clean up after themselves.Also the TP isn't sponsored by the DNC, Obama and his quid pro quo partners in the unions.

These pprtesters are mostly white rich kids? The sons and daughters of rich, racist, capitalists these people are supposed to be against? Good stuff there you dopes.

Dana the Tea Party is a counterbalance the the extreme left loons like Code Pink, Moveon.Org and Common Dreams. In fact the Tea Party doesn't have media on their side as the left wing loons do.

Wow, mainstream media exposing the lunatic left. How refreshing.

Pathetic. Grimy. Losers.

difficult to accept responsibility much easier to blame others, just ask obama !

How about the racial makeup?
Since it's all theatrics, maybe they'll resort to blackface.

The OWS crowd WISHES they were the TEA Party, but the TEA Party....they are NOT. The TEA Party will make a difference in our nation and on November 6th 2012, you'll see phase II of our effort to restore fiscal sanity to our nation and divert America from it's current path towards national destruction.

The OWS movement is phony - when lice-infested bums show up and crap on police cars that is a made for TV movement.

Their demands: Student loan forgiveness, free cell phone, free internet.

Actually we are getting a small preview of the future of America. We are one missed welfare check from cities burning. Several generations conditioned to expect excessive entitlements will not voluntarily tolerate reductions in those hand-outs. And these we now see in the parks pooping, pimping, and popping pills

is there anything more childish, immature and narcissic than this "protest?" What a farce. But then, that's the left.

A night stick across the teeth is rather effective. We need law and order. These slobs are a disgrace

 

[Denny Crane]

The comment about "their demands."

I heard on the radio an excerpt of one of the speeches where they were asking for:
1) Free health care
2) Free college education
3) $20 minimum wage

I haven't criticized this occupy wall street thing because I am happy to see people upset with big government. They have more in common with the tea party than not.

The thing is, nothing is free and where minimum wage is the highest are the areas hardest hit by this recession.

Then there really are some nut jobs out there.

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011...lence-will-be-necessary-to-achieve-our-goals/

Occupy L.A. Speaker: “One of the speakers said the solution is nonviolent movement. No, my friend. I’ll give you two examples: French Revolution, and Indian so-called Revolution.

Gandhi, Gandhi today is, with respect to all of you, Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us. French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.

India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.

So, ultimately, the bourgeoisie won’t go without violent means. Revolution! Yes, revolution that is led by the working class.

Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”

My reaction is similar to the author's. The French Revolution wasn't all so grand. It was supposed to be followed by some experiment like in America, but was followed by the reign of terror (guillotine madness) and ultimately a dictator (Napoleon).

 

[Ed O]

I only know one person who is (personally) occupying Wall Street. He's early-mid 20's, his family has a lot of money and he was posting on Facebook about getting arrested... it was pretty clear he was looking forward to doing that to "make a difference".

While it's not logical to extrapolate from a single person I happen to know, it definitely supports other things that I've read and how people perceive the Occupiers.

Ed O.

 

[Haakzilla]

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[huevonkiller]

Nate, I agree completely. Angry young people. Same thing happened in London recently. But who can blame them? The country is in a mess and there's no leadership to get us out of it.

Morons in Chile protested against the fastest growing economy in South America. They got mad that their country was getting rich too quickly. Some people started to have lavish lifestyles and that pissed off the middle class.

They're psycho, they remind me of Brainiac.

 

[huevonkiller]

The comment about "their demands."

I heard on the radio an excerpt of one of the speeches where they were asking for:
1) Free health care
2) Free college education
3) $20 minimum wage

I haven't criticized this occupy wall street thing because I am happy to see people upset with big government. They have more in common with the tea party than not.

The thing is, nothing is free and where minimum wage is the highest are the areas hardest hit by this recession.

Then there really are some nut jobs out there.

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011...lence-will-be-necessary-to-achieve-our-goals/



My reaction is similar to the author's. The French Revolution wasn't all so grand. It was supposed to be followed by some experiment like in America, but was followed by the reign of terror (guillotine madness) and ultimately a dictator (Napoleon).

Nice job Denny, fuck these communists.

 

[PapaG]

The general theme, as I see it now after a few weeks, is that the youngsters and the older people leading them are following some sort of Marxist model on wealth redistribution, achievement, and equality, and also seem to think that those of us who actually pay/paid our bills through hard work in our own lifetimes should now absolve them of their own debts, and even pay for their debts. Plus, we should do it willingly, because we're all just equals, after all.

Um, yeah, that's not going to happen without another Civil War.

 

[huevonkiller]

The general theme, as I see it now after a few weeks, is that the youngsters and the older people leading them are following some sort of Marxist model on wealth redistribution, achievement, and equality, and also seem to think that those of us who actually pay/paid our bills through hard work in our own lifetimes should now absolve them of their own debts, and even pay for their debts. Plus, we should do it willingly, because we're all just equals, after all.

Um, yeah, that's not going to happen without another Civil War.

Yeah it is embarrassing. The biggest problem they have is that they don't understand what 15 trillion dollars is. The White House caused our mess.

I hope these protestors get poorer. I could not care less about their problems.

 

[bluefrog]

Nice job Denny, fuck these communists.

Why do you do this?

 

[huevonkiller]

I love seeing Denny post that stuff.