Oden, Outlaw pass conditioning test

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Oden's pre-draft measurements on athleticism-based drills, as I recall, were about the same as Aldridge's...despite being quite a bit larger. Oden is an athletic freak and if he regains all of that athleticism for this season, it's going to go a long way toward preventing the fouls that plagued him last year. I'm sure he was trying to make plays that his instincts told him he could make but his body failed him due to his recovering from injury. If his body's abilities match his instincts again, he'll be less awkward and foul-prone.

And that's just benefits from regaining his athleticism and explosiveness. Any improvement from development and experience is on top of that.
 
andalusian said:
Aldridge was always fast - but Oden was supposed to be based on his pre-draft measurements. It is good to see that he regained his speed. When you consider that Oden who is much bigger than LMA was only 4 seconds slower then him for 20 back and forth runs - that's pretty stout.

This league is in for a rude awakening...
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They had the same plus time, 18, for their position so wouldn't that mean Oden was only 1 second slower than Aldridge?

Guards are allowed 61 seconds to do 10 lines, forwards 64 seconds and centers 65 seconds. Players are allowed to “bank” time in each set, meaning if they finish under the designated time for one set, it carries over to the next sets.
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Edit: Looking at it since they run four of them he would be four secs slower.
 
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Minstrel said:
Oden's pre-draft measurements on athleticism-based drills, as I recall, were about the same as Aldridge's...despite being quite a bit larger. Oden is an athletic freak and if he regains all of that athleticism for this season, it's going to go a long way toward preventing the fouls that plagued him last year. I'm sure he was trying to make plays that his instincts told him he could make but his body failed him due to his recovering from injury. If his body's abilities match his instincts again, he'll be less awkward and foul-prone.

And that's just benefits from regaining his athleticism and explosiveness. Any improvement from development and experience is on top of that.
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It's like everyone from the national media forgot that he had major knee surgery, and that it takes time to fully recover from.
 
So let me get this straight: the time requirements for guards, forwards, and centers are 61, 64, and 65 seconds respectively. So Greg Oden had +18, or 47 seconds. So that means that he was faster than Ime Udoka (49), Martell Webster (50), Jerryd Bayless (56), Brandon Roy (58), and Travis Outlaw (62)?!

If I'm understanding that right, then holy shit, that's pretty damn scary. I mean, he easily eclipsed the required mark for the GUARDS, let alone the forwards and his required center position mark. That. Is. Impressive.
 
"The beast come out."

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I want to see the Oden from (^^^) again this season. Check out those ridiculous stats!
 
So, the absolute scores were....

Steve Blake +24 : 61- 24 =37
LaMarcus Aldridge +18:64-18=46
Dante Cunningham +18:64-18=46
Greg Oden +18 : 65-18= 47
Martell Webster +14: 61-14=47
Ime Udoka +15: 64-15=49
Juwan Howard +10:64-10=54
Joel Przybilla +10:65-10=55
Jerryd Bayless +5:61-5=56
Brandon Roy +3:61-3=58
Travis Outlaw +2:64-2=62
Jarron Collins +5:65-5=60
Quinton Hosley -2:??
Donell Taylor -6:??
Andre Miller -8:61+8=69
Batum/Fernandez - were not asked to do drills.

if I did that right. Blake CRUSHED the field.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
So, the absolute scores were....

Steve Blake +24 : 61- 24 =37
LaMarcus Aldridge +18:64-18=46
Dante Cunningham +18:64-18=46
Greg Oden +18 : 65-18= 47
Martell Webster +14: 61-14=47
Ime Udoka +15: 64-15=49
Juwan Howard +10:64-10=54
Joel Przybilla +10:65-10=55
Jerryd Bayless +5:61-5=56
Brandon Roy +3:61-3=58
Travis Outlaw +2:64-2=62
Jarron Collins +5:65-5=60
Quinton Hosley -2:??
Donell Taylor -6:??
Andre Miller -8:61+8=69
Batum/Fernandez - were not asked to do drills.

if I did that right. Blake CRUSHED the field.
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That seems way too fast for GO, or maybe Roy and bayless and outlaw are that slow:dunno:
 
Wizard Mentor said:
So, the absolute scores were.... if I did that right. Blake CRUSHED the field.
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The target times are for only one set but the deltas are for all four sets combined.

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Player Name	Pos	Target	x 4	Delta	Time
Steve Blake	G	61	244	24	220
LaMarc Aldridge	F	64	256	18	238
D Cunningham	F	64	256	18	238
Jerryd Bayless	G	61	244	5	239
Ime Udoka	F	64	256	15	241
Brandon Roy	G	61	244	3	241
Greg Oden	C	65	260	18	242
Martell Webster	F	64	256	14	242
Juwan Howard	F	64	256	10	246
Joel Przybilla	C	65	260	10	250
Andre Miller	G	61	244	-8	252
Travis Outlaw	F	64	256	2	254
Jarron Collins	C	65	260	5	255
 
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The target times are for one set, and the + or - are for four sets. So you divide the + by four, and subtract from the target to get the actual times. The actual times are calculated below, in order of fastest to to slowest.

Steve Blake +24. 61- 24/6 = 55
Martell Webster +14. 61-14/4 = 57.5
LaMarcus Aldridge +18. 64-18/4 = 59.5
Dante Cunningham +18. 64-18/4 = 59.5
Jerryd Bayless +5. 61-5/4 =59.75
Brandon Roy +3. 61-3/4 =60.25
Ime Udoka +15. 64-15/4 = 60.25
Greg Oden +18. 65-18/4 = 60.5
Juwan Howard +10. 64-10/4 =61.5
Joel Przybilla +10. 65-10/4 = 62.5
Andre Miller -8. 61+8/4 =63
Travis Outlaw +2. 64-2/4 =63.5
Jarron Collins +5. 65-5/4 = 63.75
Batum/Fernandez - were not asked to do drills.

So Blake was fastest, followed by Martell. Then LaMarcus and Dante, followed by Jerryd. Then Brandon and Ime, followed by Oden. Pretty amazing that LaMarcus was faster than Jerryd, and that Oden was almost as fast as Brandon.
 
God Damn!!!!! I really hope Greg gets back to his old dominate self!
 
Blaz06Draft said:
So Blake was fastest, followed by Martell. Then LaMarcus and Dante, followed by Jerryd. Then Brandon and Ime, followed by Oden. Pretty amazing that LaMarcus was faster than Jerryd, and that Oden was almost as fast as Brandon.
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Thought Webster was a F same as Outlaw no?
 
bobf said:
The target times are for only one set but the deltas are for all four sets combined.

Code: 
Player Name	Pos	Target	x 4	Delta	Time
Steve Blake	G	61	244	24	220
LaMarc Aldridge	F	64	256	18	238
D Cunningham	F	64	256	18	238
Jerryd Bayless	G	61	244	5	239
Ime Udoka	F	64	256	15	241
Brandon Roy	G	61	244	3	241
Greg Oden	C	65	260	18	242
Martell Webster	F	64	256	14	242
Juwan Howard	F	64	256	10	246
Joel Przybilla	C	65	260	10	250
Andre Miller	G	61	244	-8	252
Travis Outlaw	F	64	256	2	254
Jarron Collins	C	65	260	5	255
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That makes things look quite a bit different ... basically, everybody is in pretty damn good shape
 
Nikolokolus said:
That makes things look quite a bit different ... basically, everybody is in pretty damn good shape
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Outlaw is still suspect. He barely beat out Jarron Collins and was slower than Andre Miller, Juwan Howard (how old is he?) and Joel Pryzbilla.
 
Last year, if they "skipped" for whatever reason, they had to do the same mandatory conditioning "punishment" as those who failed.
 
So? It's one test. They should be in even better shape than everyone else and it should be a breeze.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Last year, if they "skipped" for whatever reason, they had to do the same mandatory conditioning "punishment" as those who failed.
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Wasn't that for injured players who did the "punishment" when they were healthy? It said they were "given a pass" so I don't know what that means.
 
yuyuza1 said:
"The beast come out."



I want to see the Oden from (^^^) again this season. Check out those ridiculous stats!
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If Greg Oden was on your high school team, why wouldn't you just pass him the ball every time down the floor?
 
yuyuza1 said:
"The beast come out."



I want to see the Oden from (^^^) again this season. Check out those ridiculous stats!
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Be nice if he could average those stats for the season! :ghoti:
 
I can't be upset w/Miller. I'm quite sure he's probably not been through anything like Nate's test since his Majerus days. He has an entire month to get into game shape; barring injury, that's no problem.

I never saw the big deal when other players failed, either. :dunno:
 
PapaG said:
I can't be upset w/Miller. I'm quite sure he's probably not been through anything like Nate's test since his Majerus days. He has an entire month to get into game shape; barring injury, that's no problem.

I never saw the big deal when other players failed, either. :dunno:
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I commented in another thread a few days ago I thought he looked out of shape. This test confirms it.

It also confirms why a guy with Steve Blake's athletic gifts is in the NBA--because he is one competitive MoFo. Tell him he can't do something and watch him do it. I think Blakey is going to have an even better season than last year.
 
bobf said:
The target times are for only one set but the deltas are for all four sets combined.
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NERD ALERT!
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maxiep said:
I commented in another thread a few days ago I thought he looked out of shape. This test confirms it.

It also confirms why a guy with Steve Blake's athletic gifts is in the NBA--because he is one competitive MoFo. Tell him he can't do something and watch him do it. I think Blakey is going to have an even better season than last year.
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Well, I was ripped/mocked for questioning Miller's offseason work ethic in July. I think you'll find there are plenty of posters here who will flip this around and ask what Blake's strong work ethic has done for him in terms of winning in the playoffs. :devilwink:

You'll then get a page worth of posts from posters who don't know the difference between correlation and causation lecturing you about correlation versus causation. :)
 
I really respect what Blake has done. Everything he done in the NBA has been purely on hard work. It certainly isn't natural talent or natural leadership or natural athleticism. He certainly showed up in better shape than Miller did.

I'm not really worried about Miller, though. Just like Blake, he's got a system that's brought him this far. He knows what he's doing.
 
mook said:
I really respect what Blake has done. Everything he done in the NBA has been purely on hard work. It certainly isn't natural talent or natural leadership or natural athleticism. He certainly showed up in better shape than Miller did.

I'm not really worried about Miller, though. Just like Blake, he's got a system that's brought him this far. He knows what he's doing.
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Pretty much.
 
mook said:
I really respect what Blake has done. Everything he done in the NBA has been purely on hard work. It certainly isn't natural talent or natural leadership or natural athleticism. He certainly showed up in better shape than Miller did.

I'm not really worried about Miller, though. Just like Blake, he's got a system that's brought him this far. He knows what he's doing.
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Yea you bet he has a system. Sign a fat contract and get fat. Great system!:drumroll:

(Yes, I am just kidding!) :tsktsk:
 
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