Oden's Kneecap

[Idog1976]

Quick question to the board. What's the feeling on Oden's kneecap splitting by itself off a jump vs. Oden's kneecap having a pre-existing crack from the Magette incident that never healed completely and eventually broke. Given the Medical team's track record regarding keeping players from playing long enough (Blake shoulder 08/09, Webster foot 08/09, Batum shoulder summer 08/09, Rudy back summer 08/09) what do you suppose the odds are they are concluding they themselves are not at fault to CYA?

I have never heard of even one incident in sports involving a patella splitting in half due to a jump only...until Oden's injury.

 

[PapaG]

Judging from the MRIs I never saw, I feel in my armchair expert's opinion that either the condition was pre-existing, or it wasn't pre-existing. Either way, I blame BLANKY.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Judging from the MRIs I never saw, I feel in my armchair expert's opinion that either the condition was pre-existing, or it wasn't pre-existing. Either way, I blame BLANKY.

I also concur ... in my professional opinion.

I also blame BLANKY.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

If BLANKY had stayed on his man, Oden wouldn't have had to leap like a gazelle to stop Brooks. Even if BLANKY was on the bench. It was definitely his fault.

 

[Kaydow]

If BLANKY had stayed on his man, Oden wouldn't have had to leap like a gazelle to stop Brooks. Even if BLANKY was on the bench. It was definitely his fault.

Oh Come on guys, how can you put this all on Blake? At least part of the blame falls on Coach Nate - who had BLANKY starting to begin with.

 

[e_blazer]

Oh Come on guys, how can you put this all on Blake? At least part of the blame falls on Coach Nate - who had BLANKY starting to begin with.

Not to mention the team's medical staff who got BLANKY's shoulder repaired last summer so he could even be in the lineup this year at all.

 

[Minstrel]

Other-BLANKY.

 

[LameR]

Other. It's a freak injury that's not related to the Maggette injury and if you think it is you're just looking to jump to conclusions and grab onto anything you can find.

 

[BenDavis503]

100% from Maggette. I am not worried about this injury at all and am just wishing Greg well wishes in getting back.

I am confident that when Greg comes back, he is going to be better than ever.

 

[Natebishop3]

I blame PapaG. His negative waves were the cause of Oden's injury.

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[Nikolokolus]

100% from Maggette. I am not worried about this injury at all and am just wishing Greg well wishes in getting back.

I am confident that when Greg comes back, he is going to be better than ever.

Your signature cracks me up by the way.

 

[Idog1976]

Judging from the MRIs I never saw, I feel in my armchair expert's opinion that either the condition was pre-existing, or it wasn't pre-existing. Either way, I blame BLANKY.

Glad you are here to bring level headedness and informed expert opinion to a board of armchair GM's, Coaches, Players and Doctors. I'm glad your opinions are always couched in the language of uncertainty and that they are your opinion and yours alone. Where as everyone else states their opinions as that of unassailable expert fact.

We get it that no one on the board is an expert. This is an opinion poll not a peer reviewed scientific journal entry.

It's a pity I don't get to review my own work at my job. Turns out they have additional experts who have no stake in my decisions review my work to see if it is accurate. Luckily Blazers medical staff are omniscient, omnipotent and beyond the fault of us mere mortals and therefore they are able to look at their own work without any vested personal interest such as desire to maintain employment.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Blazer fans better hope it was the result of the first injury being mistreated.

If this happened because he is just that brittle, his odds of becoming an "elite" center are dismal.

 

[DaRizzle]

I am pro-Oden kneecap

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Brittle bones does not mean he is injury prone . . . damn it!

 

[Kaydow]

Brittle bones does not mean he is injury prone . . . damn it!

No?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

No?

Just having fun.

I can go back to the first injury when many refused to believe that Oden could be injury prone (eventhough some reports expressed concerns about this before the draft). Injury after injury I would hear the same arguments. I haven't read through the Oden stuff this time around but figure the same arguments are still being made.

Don't get me wrong, I love what Oden can bring to this team, but my fears are playing out, we are dealing with an injury prone player.

 

[Blazer_Hippie]

It's David Stern's fault actually for allowing Magette to wear an exposed metal brace on his knee...

 

[Idog1976]

Not to mention the team's medical staff who got BLANKY's shoulder repaired last summer so he could even be in the lineup this year at all.

That is the most damning evidence of all!

 

[PapaG]

That is the most damning evidence of all!

How so? You're the poster questioning the professionalism/comptetency of the Blazer's medical staff.

I want your "expert" opinion, although you did play your hand earlier in this thread.

Spill the beans. Where did the Blazer doctors, plus Dr. James Andrews as a consultant, miss on Oden and his knee?

 

[drexlersdad]

i dont know but i bet its one of those

 

[Idog1976]

How so? You're the poster questioning the professionalism/comptetency of the Blazer's medical staff.

I want your "expert" opinion, although you did play your hand earlier in this thread.

Spill the beans. Where did the Blazer doctors, plus Dr. James Andrews as a consultant, miss on Oden and his knee?

That was sarcasm dude. Blake getting healed would be evidence to the contrary. So I assume you have a link ready to where Oden has been viewed post Maggette injury by a third party doctor. I have certainly never heard of that. If it's true you will provide a link. I know you consider any non-linked evidence to be BS so I will hold you to your own standard.

 

[Schilly]

If the bone is expected to heal in 2 months after a complete fracture leaving to separate halves, how can it not have healed from a minor chip and bruise in about 10 months? Blaming the Maggette knee bang makes absolutely Zero medical sense.

 

[Idog1976]

If the bone is expected to heal in 2 months after a complete fracture leaving to separate halves, how can it not have healed from a minor chip and bruise in about 10 months? Blaming the Maggette knee bang makes absolutely Zero medical sense.

so then Oden's made of glass and we're doomed. He's suffering from an injury unheard of in any other case. I have yet to see ONE case of a knee cap splitting for no apparent reason, other then Oden. Well either the medical team screwed up or our chances of a championship are lost and gone forever. Or at least for another full NBA generational cycle making our next shot in the 2020's sometime.

Until I have a doctor prove otherwise, I'm going to hold onto the slim hope that the crack never healed properly to begin with and it just snapped open. If Oden doesn't come back 100% this team is back to where it has been my whole life mediocrity and occasional teasing flashes of greatness with no pay off.

I hope very much you are wrong. To me a kneecap splitting from a jump makes no medical sense, but then I am not a doctor. Just like you.

 

[Schilly]

Fractures of the patella are more common in males between the age of 20 to 50 years. They are caused by

direct injuries such as falling on the knee or road traffic accidents
indirect injuries from sudden contraction of the quadriceps muscle

From Link

 

[Schilly]

A fracture of the patella is a break or crack in the kneecap (patella), a round bone with a deep projection that sits at the front (anterior) of the knee against the bottom end of the thigh bone (femur). Fractures of the patella can result from direct blows to the knee in sports injuries or accidents, or from indirect stresses caused by twisting actions or violent contractions in the muscles surrounding the knee.

That's from MD Guidelines

 

[Schilly]

How does a patella fracture occur?
A patella fracture most often occurs from a fall onto the kneecap. When this occurs, the fracture can be associated with abrasions and lacerations to the skin overlying the injury. Patella fractures can also occur when the quadriceps muscle is contracting but the knee joint is straightening (a so-called 'eccentric contraction'). When the muscle pulls in this manner, the patella can fracture.

Ohh the conspiracies are mind Boggling about.com.orthopedics

 

[Idog1976]

From Link

Huzzah! You killed my last remaining hope. Well at least I can save $30 bucks a month on cable and inestimable amount of time following this team. It's too much to bear and like a beaten wife in the hospital finally coming out of her coma with a moment of clarity. I won't return to my abuser. Thanks Shilly.

/end blazerfandom

 

[Idog1976]

Ohh the conspiracies are mind Boggling about.com.orthopedics

Alot of time on your hands and desire to make others feel like shit eh? Hats off to ya pal.

 

[Schilly]

Also in reading the type of Fracture Greg sustained is more common in young people who's bones haven't fully developed in strength. It has also been explained to me that it is possible due to Gregs huge frame that his bone strength simply hasn't caught up to his muscle strength and frame size yet, as it is still developing