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Fredette would be my #1 target (...uhh, after DMC :lol: )

---Bring over Papanikolaou
---Go hard after Pekovic
 
I like Jimmer a lot, too, but what do we have that SAC would give him up for? And if we had something (Babbitt, bench, 2018 1st) then why wouldn't we use it at the trade deadline?
 
BrianFromWA said:
I like Jimmer a lot, too, but what do we have that SAC would give him up for? And if we had something (Babbitt, bench, 2018 1st) then why wouldn't we use it at the trade deadline?
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Well, once the season ends and we are in the playoffs, our 2013 pick will be conveyed, and our 2015 pick will now be available. Maybe those 3 years make all the difference! :D
 
I like the way you think---giving up a future first for the BPFotF! ;)
 
Offseason Plan:

No draft pick 1st Round - goes to Charlotte (13 or higher) and I predict it will
Renounce Hickson, Babbitt, NSmith, Pavlovic, Jeffries and Price.
Sign RFA Tyreke Evans from Kings/Sonics to offer sheet $8M ish.
Sign Daniel Gibson (from CLE) for $3-$4M
Sign a post player for VET MIN.
Resign Elliot Williams MIN. contract.

Starters: Lillard - Matthews - Batum - Aldridge - Leonard
Reserves: Gibson - Evans - Claver - Freeland - Post Player
Elliot Williams and 2nd Rd draft pick or two
Or combine BOS & MIN 2nd round picks and PDX 2nd round pick to get into #20 range of 1st Round and get BPA.
 
Harry's Raincoat said:
Offseason Plan:

No draft pick 1st Round - goes to Charlotte (13 or higher) and I predict it will
Renounce Hickson, Babbitt, NSmith, Pavlovic, Jeffries and Price.
Sign RFA Tyreke Evans from Kings/Sonics to offer sheet $8M ish.
Sign Daniel Gibson (from CLE) for $3-$4M
Sign a post player for VET MIN.
Resign Elliot Williams MIN. contract.

Starters: Lillard - Matthews - Batum - Aldridge - Leonard
Reserves: Gibson - Evans - Claver - Freeland - Post Player
Elliot Williams and 2nd Rd draft pick or two
Or combine BOS & MIN 2nd round picks and PDX 2nd round pick to get into #20 range of 1st Round and get BPA.
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Makes us really weak in the big's department. We all see the promise of Leonard but starting next year takes us a step back easily. Maybe that is the plan? He could improve quite a bit before next year and still not be ready.
 
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This would be my plan. Then, in 2014 we'd also have a much better draft pick as well in a better draft. We're going to miss being an elite team for a few years anyway IMO. Why not let Leonard develop with as much PT as he can handle.

I also think we'll eventually be forced to abandon the Lillard - Batum - Aldridge threesome and trade LMA. He's 4 years older than the rest of the core. He's approaching his peak IMO.
 
I really disagree with the idea of splitting cap space and spending decent chucks of money on multiple bench players. The idea of using cap space to target players that you know will be bench players is a flawed strategy IMO. We should take the lump sum, swing for the fences and if you get a really quality player, then we've improved the bench when our current starter moves there. There is no need to focus on the bench. Focus on the top end talent and everybody else shifts down the line to fill the bend roles.
 
So, maybe using the cap in uneven trades?

Outside maybe one player (Pek) there aren't any players to swing the fences for.
 
blazerboy30 said:
I really disagree with the idea of splitting cap space and spending decent chucks of money on multiple bench players. The idea of using cap space to target players that you know will be bench players is a flawed strategy IMO. We should take the lump sum, swing for the fences and if you get a really quality player, then we've improved the bench when our current starter moves there. There is no need to focus on the bench. Focus on the top end talent and everybody else shifts down the line to fill the bend roles.
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I agree with this in theory. This year it is very hard to spend that money on 1 player however. Who is that player you think we can get? Pekovic is Restricted and will get matched by MIN imo. So who is the big name we go after? Josh Smith? Not really a great position of need.
 
Ok, here is my attempt

Mine starts at the deadline though

Trade JJ, Leonard, Babbitt and a 2015 1st to Phoenix for Gortat and Dudley

That should still leave us with 6 mm or so for FA or trades

Having taken care of Center and a wing, I would go after Carl Landry for the full amount

I would sign a vet PG and C for the minimum (defensive...Tinsley and O'Neal?)

If we got the pick I would take BPA (Robinson III?)

Lillard/Tinsley/Price
Matthews/Dudley/Barton
Batum/Claver/Robinson III
Aldridge/Landry/Jeffries
Gortat/O'Neal/Freeland
 
blazerboy30 said:
It doesn't necessarily have to be during the offseason this year, right?
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Do you mean otherwise during the deadline this year or during the deadline next year?

If this year then we only have 1.5 MIL in cap room so a trade would have to be somewhat close to what we send out.

If you mean next year's deadline then it depends but we will probably have about the same in cap room or even none. It all depends on what we do this summer but even if we don't sign a Max player we are still likely to use up all or most of our cap space. We could attempt to not spend much money this summer and have some space next year but it wouldn't be like rolling over a max contract amount of room.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Do you mean otherwise during the deadline this year or during the deadline next year?

If this year then we only have 1.5 MIL in cap room so a trade would have to be somewhat close to what we send out.

If you mean next year's deadline then it depends but we will probably have about the same in cap room or even none. It all depends on what we do this summer but even if we don't sign a Max player we are still likely to use up all or most of our cap space. We could attempt to not spend much money this summer and have some space next year but it wouldn't be like rolling over a max contract amount of room.
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What I mean is if we renounce JJ and don't see any great opportunities this summer, we can still wait and do something before next year's trade deadline. Or, we could continue to wait until the following summer.

It would take patience, but it is feasible.
 
BrianFromWA said:
I know it's probably unpopular (and I'm totally in the bag for him) but right now Martell Webster is on a 1/1.75M contract with the Wiz. First, I think we could snag him at the deadline and he'd be an immediate upgrade. Failing that, I think he'd be amenable to the room exception.

Serious question, if you get two of Sasha, Babbitt and Webster, you do you leave off?
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"Planet Money" recently had a podcast about the economics of the NBA (with the headline of how LeBron is the most underpaid athlete in sports), and the hosts (based in DC) mentioned Martell...

...as the worst player on the team, and how he is actually vastly overpaid for what he gives the team.
 
Tyreke. Eric Maynor. Jack. Jennings.

In that order. Tyreke can be sixth man, either SG or PG. I think he just needs a change of scenery. OKC hasn't been using Maynor much. Jack is another do-it-all kind of guy. Jennings would be interesting.

Tony Allen. JJ Redick.

Tony could let us bring Wes off of the bench, while providing great defense. Redick could be sixth man, but would play awful defense. Personally, I prefer defense over offense with Lillard / no true defensive presence in the middle.

Dorell Wright. Matt Barnes. Martell.

D. Wright - would be better than any SF we have coming off of the bench. Decent shooter. Barnes knows his role, unfortunately after this year with LA, don't think he will sign else where. Martell plays solid D, can score/rebound coming off of the bench. Think this offense would fit him pretty well, also. Could also play some 2 guard.

Al Jefferson. Another strong post presence. Not the best defender, but he is better than Meyers at this point.

DMC - Not gonna happen, but I really think he needs kind of a "Dez Bryant" model for him to be successful. Just time to grow up. Need to show COMPLETE faith and trust in him, unlike SAC did. He needs a change of scenery, big time.

Trade Babbitt for whatever you can get.
Re-sign Elliot, if possible, at the min.

Out of all of this - I'd prioritize probably DMC - Tyreke - Jefferson - Jarret Jack - Eric Maynor - Dorrell Wright, then the rest is up for grabs.

Honestly, this off-season should be spent trying to add Tyreke/Jefferson/DMC/another legitimate 6th man or starting caliber center. If we don't land any of them... fix the bench, re-sign Hickson and hope Meyers turns into something special...

The season after that, should be spent fixing the bench (assuming we can land a legitimate 6th man (Tyreke) or center.

However, it is possible management seems "content" with our starting 5, in which case I think they'd try to bolster bench and that's all.

Eric Maynor (Jack, maybe)/Dorell Wright/re-sign Hicky/vet min center, possibly.

Lillard/Maynor(or Jack)
Wes/Jack (or Elliot? Maybe)
Batum/Dorell Wright
Aldridge/Hickson/Freeland
Hickson/Meyers/vet min center
 
I just want to say one thing, I'm really pleased that people seem to be willing to swing for the fences a little bit and aren't getting caught up in clinging to mediocrity.

Almost brings a tear to my eye.
 
One guy that I'd seriously consider making a run at is Kevin Martin. I love the idea of putting Wesley Matthews in a 6th man role backing up both Martin & Batum. Getting Martin would probably take all of the cap space, so it would mean waiving goodbye to J.J. Hickson, but I just can't see paying him the money he's going to want and continue to be undersized at the C spot. I think Meyers Leonard will develop into a starting-caliber C, but it's going to take time. I'd try to get Jermaine O'Neal to finish out his career where he started to fill in as a starter while Meyers learns the ropes. I'd love to see a more potent backup PG added, but we may have to get by with another year of Ronnie Price. I think Joel Freeland would be fine in a backup role at PF.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Tyreke. Eric Maynor. Jack. Jennings.

In that order. Tyreke can be sixth man, either SG or PG. I think he just needs a change of scenery. OKC hasn't been using Maynor much. Jack is another do-it-all kind of guy. Jennings would be interesting.

Tony Allen. JJ Redick.

Tony could let us bring Wes off of the bench, while providing great defense. Redick could be sixth man, but would play awful defense. Personally, I prefer defense over offense with Lillard / no true defensive presence in the middle.

Dorell Wright. Matt Barnes. Martell.

D. Wright - would be better than any SF we have coming off of the bench. Decent shooter. Barnes knows his role, unfortunately after this year with LA, don't think he will sign else where. Martell plays solid D, can score/rebound coming off of the bench. Think this offense would fit him pretty well, also. Could also play some 2 guard.

Al Jefferson. Another strong post presence. Not the best defender, but he is better than Meyers at this point.

DMC - Not gonna happen, but I really think he needs kind of a "Dez Bryant" model for him to be successful. Just time to grow up. Need to show COMPLETE faith and trust in him, unlike SAC did. He needs a change of scenery, big time.

Trade Babbitt for whatever you can get.
Re-sign Elliot, if possible, at the min.

Out of all of this - I'd prioritize probably DMC - Tyreke - Jefferson - Jarret Jack - Eric Maynor - Dorrell Wright, then the rest is up for grabs.

Honestly, this off-season should be spent trying to add Tyreke/Jefferson/DMC/another legitimate 6th man or starting caliber center. If we don't land any of them... fix the bench, re-sign Hickson and hope Meyers turns into something special...

The season after that, should be spent fixing the bench (assuming we can land a legitimate 6th man (Tyreke) or center.

However, it is possible management seems "content" with our starting 5, in which case I think they'd try to bolster bench and that's all.

Eric Maynor (Jack, maybe)/Dorell Wright/re-sign Hicky/vet min center, possibly.

Lillard/Maynor(or Jack)
Wes/Jack (or Elliot? Maybe)
Batum/Dorell Wright
Aldridge/Hickson/Freeland
Hickson/Meyers/vet min center
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Bump. Maynor. ;)
 
The Kings were in salary dump mode.

There goes my DMC/Jimmer dream.
 
OK so we have Luke, JJ, Pavlovic, Smith, and Maynor who are fee agents of one degree or another this summer.

Smith and Pavlovic are of no concern to any of us. I think some of us would like to see Luke back at a very cheap price. (others do not)

JJ has been debated the whole year but I think we all agree that landing a bigger center as a FA would be a bigger priority.

And i think if Maynor shows he can return to his former self, then he is keeper along with our draft pick.

So saying all that, now what is the most likely scenario come July? How do we get a veteran center? I assume JJ will walk and Joel will be our back up PF. We still need a SG (Through the draft) and a center (through FA.)

How do we manage that from a financial standpoint?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
OK so we have Luke, JJ, Pavlovic, Smith, and Maynor who are fee agents of one degree or another this summer.

Smith and Pavlovic are of no concern to any of us. I think some of us would like to see Luke back at a very cheap price. (others do not)

JJ has been debated the whole year but I think we all agree that landing a bigger center as a FA would be a bigger priority.

And i think if Maynor shows he can return to his former self, then he is keeper along with our draft pick.

So saying all that, now what is the most likely scenario come July? How do we get a veteran center? I assume JJ will walk and Joel will be our back up PF. We still need a SG (Through the draft) and a center (through FA.)

How do we manage that from a financial standpoint?
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I think JJ gets S&T to a team and we take back a center. No reason to think that though
 
If Neil lands a SG (Evans?) and a C (Pekovic?) we could have a very solid bench

PG: Maynor
SG: Matthews
SF: Papanikolaou
PF: Olynyk? Hickson?
C: Leonard
 
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