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I meant both taking him over Bowie and then also that the later trade would have been amazing. Especially since Clyde destroyed Cliff's playoff game with the worst unnecessarily induced yips in history with that pass under the hoop when he should have just dunked it on LA. Ugh that breakaway would have almost certainly turned that game. I think we win it. Of course then you have Jordan for the first time, but maybe he was beatable that first Finals before he tasted victory...maybe.
Probably so, but Adelman taking his starters out in Game 1, thinking they had it in the bag, got the Blazers off to a bad start and they never recovered. That was maybe the biggest fail in franchise history . The Blazers had the best record, and Best team IMO. And did well against Chicago that year, winning both games. If's & Buts....
 
Probably so, but Adelman taking his starters out in Game 1, thinking they had it in the bag, got the Blazers off to a bad start and they never recovered. That was maybe the biggest fail in franchise history . The Blazers had the best record, and Best team IMO. And did well against Chicago that year, winning both games. If's & Buts....

yeah, that was so damn frustrating. I remember it well

all season long Adelman had been getting criticized for his 'platoon' substitution pattern. He stuck to it stubbornly. Finally, he abandoned that and went with a more fluid rotation and the result was a 16 game winning streak until he half rested the starters in the final game. And then went 8-3 in the first two playoff series. So, if you discard the regular season final, the Blazers had a 24-3 record after shit-canning the platoon system.

so what does Adelman do in game 1 against the Lakers? If you guessed he went back to the platoon system yo win the prize. He didn't in the 1st half bu he did at the beginning of the 4th Q....and it was a fucking disaster. Blazers started the 4th Q with a 12 point lead, the bench lost it immediately, and Portland gets outscored 31-14 in the 4th Q, lost game 1 and HCA, and never recovered (I looked it up). I never really forgave Adelman for that inexcusable blunder
 
yeah, I can't recall hearing about the Ramsey involvement at the time, but it's entirely possible. It was the age of big, rim-protecting C's and Ramsey had won a championship with one

a minor irony is at the time the Blazers had Mychal Thompson at C. He was actually pretty good. He'd just averaged 16 points, 9 rebounds and 4 assists that season. If you had seen him play he sure looked like the kind of big who would thrive in the modern NBA. He was very mobile; he just wasn't a dominant force in the paint

Thompson was at least a solid player for the Blazers. Averaged at least 17 ppg three times and averaged 20 ppg and a double-double in 1982. Shot 50% from the field. We ended up trading him for Steve Johnson. I seem to recall the feeling that he was too laid back.

He was a pretty good passer, too, IIRC.
 
are you talking about the Kersey + Robinson for Barkley trade that Portland turned down?

yeah, don't re-write the 1984 draft, but make that trade and also convince Sabonis to come over immediately:

Porter
Drexler
Barkley
Buck
Sabonis

how many rings for that team?

I thought the rumored trade was Kersey and Buck for Barkley?
 
yeah, that was so damn frustrating. I remember it well

all season long Adelman had been getting criticized for his 'platoon' substitution pattern. He stuck to it stubbornly. Finally, he abandoned that and went with a more fluid rotation and the result was a 16 game winning streak until he half rested the starters in the final game. And then went 8-3 in the first two playoff series. So, if you discard the regular season final, the Blazers had a 24-3 record after shit-canning the platoon system.

so what does Adelman do in game 1 against the Lakers? If you guessed he went back to the platoon system yo win the prize. He didn't in the 1st half bu he did at the beginning of the 4th Q....and it was a fucking disaster. Blazers started the 4th Q with a 12 point lead, the bench lost it immediately, and Portland gets outscored 31-14 in the 4th Q, lost game 1 and HCA, and never recovered (I looked it up). I never really forgave Adelman for that inexcusable blunder

I guess I had blocked that out and forgotten that detail. Good piece of lore even if painful.
 
So Dame is after Ayton, Grant, and Lavine.
Make it happen cap gurus, give Cronin the blueprint.
 
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I mean, that's 125M for 4 players, but I'm sure Cronin could make it work. :biglaugh:
Great trade for Detroit though Simons needs his own team and the Pistons already have Cade. I could see Suns wanting Nurkic as they move off Ayton. Our team would make Dame happy as long we won.

Dame/Lavine/Grant/DraftPick/Ayton

Bench: Williams/Elleby/Keon/Brown/Watford plus the MLE and Olshey type signings like Tolliver and Zeller?

Maybe that's a good team?
 
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