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Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 3m
Trey Burke: 29.5" standing vert. 36.5" max vert. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 1m
Couple of #BIG jumps: Shane Larkin with 2nd highest standing vert (34.5"); Michael Carter-Williams with 3rd highest max vert (41").

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 1m
Isaiah Canaan: 33" standing vert. 40.5" max vert. GREAT numbers and day for Isaiah. #NBACombine

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick 1m
Blazers today will meet with Georgia SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 32s
Lorenzo Brown. 28" standing vert. 34" max vert. #NBACombine

Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 19s
Providence freshman SG Ricky Ledo, interviewed w/ #Blazers yesterday. He's projected as a mid-second rounder.
 
On the flip side, the less a big center leaves the ground, the less chance he will have in getting hurt. (No that is not a proven fact, just makes sense to me)

What are Duncan, M. Gasol and Hibbert's standing vert? I'm guessing not very good. Doesn't seem to prevent them from playing good defense.
 
Jason Quick ‏@jwquick 13m
Kentavious Caldwelk-Pope says he is a guard who "loves" to defend and who can be a "great" shooter

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 14m
Michael Carter-Williams. 31.5" standing vert. 41" max vert. Wow. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 14m
Shane Larkin just recorded the 2nd-highest max vertical leap since 2000-- 44 inches. Wow.

Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 12m
6-6 SG Ricky Ledo was ruled academically ineligible before start of 2012-13 season and did not play 1 collegiate game. Did practice, however

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 6m
Point guards tearing it up in the max vert: 1- Larkin (44"); 2- Siva (41.5"); 3- Carter-Williams (41"); 4- Canaan (40.5"); 5- McCallum (40")

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 6m
Shane Larkin. 34.5" standing vert. 44" max vert. Second biggest max vert we've had at combine ever. Kenny Gregory 45.5" in 2001

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 4m
Myck Kabongo. 27.5" standing vert. 33.5" max vert. #NBACombine

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick 4m
Miami PG Shane Larkin testing very well. Just ran the fastest 3/4 court sprint of the combine

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 2m
Dennis Schroeder. 30" standing vert. 34" max vert. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 1m
Shane Larkin dominating the Strength & Agility Testing. Now has the #1 3/4 sprint time of 3.08. #NBACombine

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 1m
CJ McCollum. 32" standing vert. 38.5" max vert. #NBACombine
 
I like Siva as a b\u PG, possible 2nd round pick....Super quick, good athleticism, familiarity with running the pick n roll....
 
Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 8m
Ray McCallum. 30.5" standing vert. 40" max vert

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 7m
Phil Pressey. 33" standing vert. 38.5" max vert. #NBACombine

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 5m
Peyton Siva. 33.5" standing vert. 41.5" max vert. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 4m
Peyton Siva testing out very well in S&A. Just ran a 3.21, 7th overall. #NBACombine

Jay Williams ‏@RealJayWilliams 33s
Breaking news: Shane Larkin at 5'11 just tested as THE best athlete in this #NBACombine.

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 4m
Siva, Larkin, Kabongo, Carter-Williams with great lane agility numbers. Trey Burke & Lorenzo Brown not so much. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 48s
Keep an eye on Tony Snell. Building up some buzz here. Has had great workouts both days.

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 1m
Shane Larkin going to test as best athlete here. No. 1 Max vert jump. No. 1 sprint. No. 4 lane agility.
 
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NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 2m
C.J. Leslie with a 40.5 inch vertical. Highest touch of anyone here-- 145 inches.

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 59s
Shabazz Muhammad. 29.5" standing vert. 37" max vert. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 56s
C.J Leslie #1 overall time in lane agility drills and by a lot-- 10.19 seconds. Really excelling here among SFs.

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 48s
Otto Porter. 27" standing vert. 36" max vert. #NBACombine

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 9s
CJ Leslie. 32.5" standing vert. 40.5" max vert. #NBACombine

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 2m
Glen Rice Jr. 33" standing vert. 40.5" max vert. #NBACombine
 
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Seems like the outlook of the draft is improving from the combine. Much better athleticism than expected and some "meh" prospects are upping their stock to lotto territory.
 
Seems like the outlook of the draft is improving from the combine. Much better athleticism than expected and some "meh" prospects are upping their stock to lotto territory.

This is going to be a fun year to watch the draft. After the first two there should be lots of surprises. I'm still wondering if Noel coming at 206 lbs is going to sink him. Those look like Brandan Wright numbers.
 
NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 8m
10 players recorded a max vertical leap of 40+ inches. That's the most at the Combine since 2000. #NBACombine

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 8m
CJ Leslie just recorded a ridiculous 10.19 sec lane agility drill. Top score at Combine and he's 6-9. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 5m
Top 5 Standing Verts (Final): 1- C. Zeller (35.5"); 2- S. Larkin (34.5); 3- A. Thomas (34.5); 4- K. Kadji (34); 5- T. Mitchell (33.5)

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 4m
Top 5 Max Verts (Final): 1- S. Larkin (44"); T2- V. Oladipo (42); T2- B. McLemore (42); 4- P. Siva (41.5); 5- M. Carter-Williams (41)

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 3m
Adonis Thomas. 34.5" standing vert. 40.5 max vert. That's 10!!!! Players with a 40+ inch vert today. #NBACombine

Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 3m
North Texas PF Tony Mitchell interviewing w/ #Blazers today. Projected early 20s. Says most teams questioning him re: effort in college.

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 2m
Top 5 Lane Agility Times: 1- C. Leslie (10.19); 2. T. Snell (10.36); 3- V. Blue (10.40); 4- P. Siva 10.59; 5- K. Caldwell-Pope (10.60)
 
Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 48s
Top 5 Sprints. Larkin, Leslie, Caldwell-Pope, Pressey, Blue. #NBACombine

NBA Guru ‏@NBAGuru 42s
Top 5 3/4 Court Sprint Times: 1- S. Larkin (3.08); 2- C. Leslie (3.10); 3- K. Caldwell-Pope (3.12); 4- P. Pressey (3.13); 5- V. Blue (3.14)

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 35s
Top 5 Lane Agility: Leslie, Snell, Blue, Siva, Caldwell-Pope
 
So: Carter-Williams has great PG skills, is 6'6", super-athletic and defends? Jason Kidd II?
 
I wonder if Wes (and possibly Will Barton) are noticing that the Blazers are interviewing practically nothing but SGs. I can imagine it lighting a real fire under Wes.
 
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 1m
With Ben McLemore looking so-so and Nerlens Noel injured, talk at NBA Combine suggests this is year No. 1 draft pick finally gets traded.
 
Nerlens Noel weighs 205 lbs. That's me after a heavy meal, and I'm a not-fat 6'3".
 
I wonder if Wes (and possibly Will Barton) are noticing that the Blazers are interviewing practically nothing but SGs. I can imagine it lighting a real fire under Wes.

I have reason to believe Wes wants to get out of Portland. I bet he's gone this summer.
 
"Analyzing the combine measurements":

-Rudy Gobert (7'0.5 without shoes, 7'8.5 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 238 pounds) measured in tied for the 3rd biggest wingspan and 2nd biggest standing reach in the history of our database. His size compares favorably to a young JaVale McGee (6'11 without shoes, 7'6 wingspan, 241 pounds). Like McGee, Gobert will need to add some weight to his frame, but his size is truly elite.

-Steven Adams is an enormous individual, measuring in at 6'10.75 without shoes with a 7'4.5 wingspan and 255 pound frame. His hands are among the largest recorded since the NBA began measuring hand width and length regularly as well. Adams's measurements are eerily similar to those of Greg Oden (6'11 without shoes, 7'4.25 wingspan, 257 pounds), which certainly puts just how impressive his physical profile is in perspective.
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Gorgui Dieng ... a still solid 6'9.75 without shoes on with a 7'3.5 wingspan and a 230 pound frame.
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-Jamaal Franklin measured 6'4 without shoes with an outstanding 6'11.25 wingspan. His wingspan differential is just one inch shorter than that of former Aztec standout Kawhi Leonard (6'6 without shoes, 7'3 wingspan). Just as Leonard's wingspan was impressive for a small forward, so too is Franklin's for a shooting guard.
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-Michael Carter-Williams measured 6'4.75 without shoes with a 6'7.25 wingspan, or almost identically to Greivis Vasquez (6'4.75 without shoes, 6'7.25 wingspan). Nate Wolters also measured well for a point guard at 6'3.5 without shoes on, but possesses a middling 6'3.75 wingspan.
 
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So: Carter-Williams has great PG skills, is 6'6", super-athletic and defends? Jason Kidd II?

we are now in a guard dominant league, with MCW being 6'6 he and Lillard could be a fukkin awesome guard tandem. Two PG's with one big enough to guard SGs!
 
we are now in a guard dominant league, with MCW being 6'6 he and Lillard could be a fukkin awesome guard tandem. Two PG's with one big enough to guard SGs!

I would just pick up Livingston. He looked pretty good this year. Then you can still trade the pick for need or pick Shabazz as your 6th man gunner.
 

Interesting tidbits from there:

-C.J. McCollum (6'2.25 without shoes, 6'6.25 wingspan, 197 pounds) has solid size for a combo guard, measuring lighter, but roughly the same size as Randy Foye (6'2.25 without shoes, 6'6.25 wingspan, 212 pounds). McCollum's ability to handle the ball and make plays for others is a plus, as he doesn't compare favorably to most true shooting guards who have been picked in the lottery in recent years.

-Shabazz Muhammad (6'4.75 without shoes, 6'11 wingspan, 222 pounds) measured roughly as expected. His numbers are not outstanding for a small forward prospect, but not awful either. He's 6'6.25 with shoes on and is roughly the same size as Ruben Patterson (6'5 without shoes, 224 pounds) and Caron Butler (6'5.25 without shoes, 6'11.5 wingspan, 222 pounds) both of whom enjoyed long careers at the three-spot. Like those two, Muhammad strong frame is a plus as he looks to compensate for his lack of great size and length.


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2TZzCqN8A
http://www.draftexpress.com
 
we are now in a guard dominant league, with MCW being 6'6 he and Lillard could be a fukkin awesome guard tandem. Two PG's with one big enough to guard SGs!

That would be great if MCW can shoot. And I me shoot really well.
 
I have reason to believe Wes wants to get out of Portland. I bet he's gone this summer.

For everything that Wes does/is for us, his body is pretty clearly already breaking down. The guy can't jump and each time he retweaks his ankle, his lateral movement is impacted - the biggest reason I've seen for his fading defense.

Barton's shown some promise but we SHOULD be looking for Wes' replacement, whether he leaves, is traded or flat-out has to retire, we're not going to get a lot more juice out of him...

Feels to me like we're trying to find a guy at the bottom of the 1st round - I'd be very happy with any of Shabazz, Caldwell-Pope, Franklin or any of the higher rated names towards the end of the first...
 
This is one of those: I wonder why they care? stats. Kind of like: how tall are you to the top of your head with and without shoes? You don't play basketball with your head. It's fun trivia, but not that important. Instead of comparing how far off the ground you can get your feet, I'm more interested in how high and wide you can get your hands? How quickly can you move side to side? :dunno:

They need a way to measure how FAST a guy can jump. ie explosiveness.
 


Hopefully this guy doesn't move up and we're able to grab him with one of our 2nd rounders.

How do you embed? YT's link never works here.
 
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 23m
Not only did Michigan G Tim Hardaway Jr kill it in drills, but source at NBA Draft Combine said he interviewed best with teams. Stock rising
 


Hopefully this guy doesn't move up and we're able to grab him with one of our 2nd rounders.

How do you embed? YT's link never works here.


You can't use the shortcut link to embed videos.

So it would have to be this link:


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Adams is a "lock to go in the top-10"

He does have Greg Oden-like size:

Oden: 7'0" (w/shoes) | 7'4.25" wingspan | 254 lbs. | 7.8 bf%
Adams: 7'0" (w/shoes) | 7'4.5" wingspan | 255 lbs. | 6.7 bf%
 

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