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Interesting -- Nate Wolters toyed around with most of the PG's at the combine on a very sore hip.

The biggest sleepers in this draft - Wolters and Larkin.
 
I'm firmly on the Oladipo Bandwagon, but I don't think we'll be able to get them.

Year after year people talk about how crappy of a draft it is, but GMs almost never trade down
or out of it.
 
Can we do a sign and trade with Hickson to package him with the #10 to move up? Say to PHX's pick? Is that a realistic scenario?
 
dviss1 said:
Can we do a sign and trade with Hickson to package him with the #10 to move up? Say to PHX's pick? Is that a realistic scenario?
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I think you can, but you'd likely have to pick up salary back (not required, but they would probably want to dump). I still like the idea of trying to get Gortat and #3 from them for #10 + something (Hickson+). I'm just not sure how much we would have to give up.
 
dviss1 said:
Can we do a sign and trade with Hickson to package him with the #10 to move up? Say to PHX's pick? Is that a realistic scenario?
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No, because he can't be signed and traded until July, after the draft. So we'd have to have them pick for us, us pick for them, and THEN still hope that JJ wants to go there for the right amount. Those deals generally do not happen.
 
Blazinaway said:
Shabazz fell to #16 in the latest nbadraft.net mock
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Their mock seems off this season. WTH would we want this guy? He looks slow, unathletic, the list goes on. I do think however the faces he makes are hilarious! :rotfl:

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dviss1 said:
Their mock seems off this season. WTH would we want this guy? He looks slow, unathletic, the list goes on. I do think however the faces he makes are hilarious! :rotfl:

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he's at #9 on draftexpress latest and that certainly boggles the mind a bit
 
Blazinaway said:
Shabazz fell to #16 in the latest nbadraft.net mock
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I read their "weaknesses" for Shabazz and I come away thinking "Yeah that's not good". So I see how he dropped.

Then I read the weaknesses for Otto Porter, and I think why the fuck is he #3?

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/otto-porter

Weaknesses: Smooth run/jump athlete but missing the trademark explosion of a lottery talent. The power quotient is noticeably absent as well. While muscle definition is more noticeable, he has not added substantial bulk in his two years (from 200 to 205). It appears he has the broad shoulders to support more weight. He lacks the tools to impose his will on the game. Has difficulty creating clean looks for himself- off the dribble creativity is elementary and he’s more slippery/slithery than quick. Aptitude shooting off the bounce is often condensed to 1 or 2 dribbles, doesn’t rise up and elevate off hard drives. Not a consistent breakdown candidate, dependent on another playmaker or garbage buckets in the half court. Limited albeit diverse role player. Porter was utilized as a “pick and pop” threat just three times all season, failing to showcase potentially his greatest attribute as an undersized 4. His jump shot mechanics are awkward with elbows out and funky sidespin rotation. To his credit, he’s made it work a la Shawn Marion. Top-notch defender in all situations that don’t require side to side movement in open space. There are clear shortcomings in the lateral quickness department, which he masks with makeup speed and length.
 
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Listening to Chad Ford and the reason why Saric is rising is because of his feel for the game that is "comparable with Chris Paul" -- calling it off the charts.

But his athleticism is clearly below average. He'll probably will have to move to PF.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
This year it seems like there's an abundance of interesting foreign players.
Dennis Schroeder, Dario Saric, Rudy Gobert (not interested, myself), Nogueira (ditto), Sergey Karasev, Livio Jean-Charles

(And that's not counting the international players who played at US colleges, like Bennett, Olynyk (both Canadian), Dieng and Adams.)
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Don't forget about Greek Batum, Giannis Adetokunbo
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Don't forget Abrines. When given actual playing time he has really produced.
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PtldPlatypus said:
Don't forget about Greek Batum, Giannis Adetokunbo
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D'oh! Both of those should have been included. Abrines is a sleeper - he could be the Spanish Evan Fournier. And he actually got minutes for Barcelona!

I also forgot about Len. Wow, this draft might have half the first round be non-US.
 
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Re: Saric: this site has him ranked ahead of Mirotic (not to mention Fournier, Gobert and Schroeder), while 3 years younger, and behind only Valanciunas and Kanter. I agree that he doesn't immediately strike one as an NBA player. Reminds me a bit of Viktor Khryapa, slow feet and all.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Re: Saric: this site has him ranked ahead of Mirotic (not to mention Fournier, Gobert and Schroeder), while 3 years younger, and behind only Valanciunas and Kanter. I agree that he doesn't immediately strike one as an NBA player. Reminds me a bit of Viktor Khryapa, slow feet and all.
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I'm not sold.. If we pick him I'll be disappointed.
 
Draft him in the 2nd round and watch him rain in 3's

Follow the NBA bloodlines on this one. Curry's are elite shooters.

He could play a Danny Green role
 
Check out this high school player!

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Shabazz seems like more and more of a reality these days

It really doesn't excite me all that much, though.
 
I doubt we draft Shabazz. However, I would rather draft a wing/SG more than another center. Id rather find center help through trade or free agency.
 
The one thing that no one disputes is Shabazz' work ethic. Everyone of these players in this draft has to work their asses off to get better. None of them are good enough now to be a starter. So from a glass half full perspective........maybe Shabazz could turn out to be a good pick.
 
EGame said:
I doubt we draft Shabazz. However, I would rather draft a wing/SG more than another center. Id rather find center help through trade or free agency.
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I've been going back and doing some reading on Shabazz to remember the hype he once had. Consider this:

The Naismith High School Player of the Year, Muhammad finished with a Hoop Summit-record 35 points to go with nine rebounds and two assists.
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He dominated his peers.

Also, it's hard to account for the UCLA factor with Shabazz. Is it real or not?

People like to bring up Westbrook, and rightfully so. The guy that has really surprised me at the NBA level from UCLA is Aaron Afflalo. He's been a really solid player the past 2-3 years.
 
RoyToy said:
I've been going back and doing some reading on Shabazz to remember the hype he once had. Consider this:



He dominated his peers.

Also, it's hard to account for the UCLA factor with Shabazz. Is it real or not?

People like to bring up Westbrook, and rightfully so. The guy that has really surprised me at the NBA level from UCLA is Aaron Afflalo. He's been a really solid player the past 2-3 years.
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Im not really opposed to drafting Shabazz, I think he could fit in nicely with Lillard. I like his potential, but he could also just be like an OJ Mayo. I just don't want to draft a center after we just drafted one last year. I'm not fully behind Leonard yet, but drafting another center doesn't send him positive messages
 
EGame said:
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Im not really opposed to drafting Shabazz, I think he could fit in nicely with Lillard. I like his potential, but he could also just be like an OJ Mayo. I just don't want to draft a center after we just drafted one last year. I'm not fully behind Leonard yet, but drafting another center doesn't send him positive messages
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is their a position available that would not send the same message? We need depth at every position. We can't worry about who becomes insecure.
 
RoyToy said:
People like to bring up Westbrook, and rightfully so. The guy that has really surprised me at the NBA level from UCLA is Aaron Afflalo. He's been a really solid player the past 2-3 years.
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Ben Howland had a team with Kevin Love, Darren Collison, Russell Westbrook, Luc Mbah a Moute, and Josh Shipp starting, and they played a slowdown game that lost in the NCAA semis to a Memphis team with on legitimate NBA player 78-63.

Ben Howland sucked as a coach at UCLA.
 
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