Politics Official 2024 Presidential Election Thread (1 Viewer)

[beast blazer]

Because that's a huge exaggeration and the left actually was rallying behind an at-risk segment of our population that was being oppressed and committing suicide at massive rates while being denied even the most basic gender-affirming care like proper counseling?

You tread in hyperbole like most people walk around their house.

They are not oppressed. They are oppressing women when they invade their spaces and sports.

Trans activists push their pronouns and language policing on society, and use their protected class to intimidate people into compliance.

Studies have proven these treatments provide no net benefit to suicide. That's B's they made up to justify it,and scare parents into giving their children gender mutilation.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

All that needs to be done is to end is to enforcement the same laws that used to be applied to men who violate women's spaces.

No, you are NOT a woman, you're a fucking deluded creep.

Your fixation with transsexuals is creepy AF. But then, so are you......

 

[beast blazer]

I'm curious to see how quickly the boast that there wasn't global chaos in his first term holds up. Pulling out of NATO almost assures Putin will do something. Maybe Trump will try to say "See, I kept us out of this by not being in NATO" and that will be enough because people will be paying $5 for a gallon of gas and an extra couple of dollars for a dozen eggs ... people won't have the time to catch a breath to see the mess in foreign affairs.

Fuck NATO. Defend your own fucking cotinent you European pussies. That's not to say we don't step in if someone bombs the UK, but Europe relies on us too much.

 

[beast blazer]

Your fixation with transsexuals is creepy AF. But then, so are you......

Your fixation on allowing the sexual mutilation of children, and creeps in female locker rooms is disgusting.

 

[PCmor7]

They are not oppressed. They are oppressing women when they invade their spaces and sports.

Trans activists push their pronouns and language policing on society, and use their protected class to intimidate people into compliance.

Studies have proven these treatments provide no net benefit to suicide. That's B's they made up to justify it,and scare parents into giving their children gender mutilation.

The sports thing is very rare. Stop acting like that's a thing. It happens in extremely limited situations, and it is being worked out.

But anyone thinking that teenage (or younger) boys are undergoing sex changes en masse just to get college scholarships is off their rocker.

The bathroom issue also is something that doesn't mean what you think it means. Look at Chaz Bono's recent photos and tell me if that's who you want in a women's bathroom because they were born with a vagina. You don't think these things through.

"Trans activists pushing pronouns" only is an issue if you are really insecure, weak-minded and easily triggered. It hurts no one. Call everybody "they" like I've done since the 1960s. No one is losing their home, meal or job over it, so stop acting like a very minor inconvenience to you is a big thing. It's not.

I can't believe I have to explain the treatment and suicide thing to do. It's counseling at a young age. It's also keeping people like you freaking losing your mind over someone having a different problem or worldview from you and being bullied by groups of empathy-challenged neanderthals who need to punch down at someone because they don't understand the world and loathe themselves. It's about dealing with the stereotyping, the scapegoating for problems in the country that have nothing to do with them. It's about the mental stress they shouldn't have to deal with just to be left alone and live their lives.

See, you are doing more to impose your worldview on them than they are on you, and that's not right.

It's the same thing that made Blacks slaves on this continent for centuries and we fought a war over. It's the same thing that kept Asians living in squalor and ridicule at they built our western railroads. It's the same thing that kept women from voting. It's the same that denied mixed-race couples from getting married and put gays into mental institutions as recently as the 1970s.

You display an unnecessary fear and anger over something that doesn't impact your life at all. It's so extreme that it seems there might be something more to it. But, at its base, it indicates a lack of understanding and being informed and a lack of empathy. It also indicates an issue with prioritizing, a fixation on minor things that are insignificant to your own personal existence.

You're actually going out of your way to hurt people who in almost every respect are just like you, and you are rationalizing reasons to do it that show you haven't taken a minute to actually look into the other side of the issue. That, my friend, is not cool and not what I always was taught adults do.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Your fixation on allowing the sexual mutilation of children, and creeps in female locker rooms is disgusting.

I'm not allowing anything. I'm just pointing out the hysteria the Right wallows in based on lies, disinformation and ignorance. THAT is what is disgusting.

 

[PCmor7]

I'm not allowing anything, dumbshit. I'm just pointing out the hysteria the Right wallows in based on lies, disinformation and ignorance. THAT is what is disgusting.

It's interesting how bigots cry about being treated the way they treat other people that aren't like them.

 

[beast blazer]

I'm not allowing anything. I'm just pointing out the hysteria the Right wallows in based on lies, disinformation and ignorance. THAT is what is disgusting.

That's exactly what you're advocating for, no matter how you try to spin it.

 

[beast blazer]

The sports thing is very rare. Stop acting like that's a thing. It happens in extremely limited situations, and it is being worked out.

But anyone thinking that teenage (or younger) boys are undergoing sex changes en masse just to get college scholarships is off their rocker.

These are the games you lefties play, "It doesn't happen --->it's too rare to worry about--->ok it happens but it's not a problem."

Just stick to one position. It's not rare, it just happened in oregon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...irls-track-race-state-championship-rcna153383
https://www.outsports.com/2022/3/1/...ns-athlete-championship-national-world-title/

 

[beast blazer]

It's funny to watch you guys be like "Donalwd Twump is going to bwing back wacism and wape!"

I heard the same shit in 2016. And there was a huge string of FAKE racism incidents the legacy media reported on, they were all fucking fake. Concocted by deranged leftists to push a narrative. And you're pulling out this card AGAIN.

If the country were anything like you said,you wouldn't have to make that shit up.

 

[GoZers]

These are the games you lefties play, "It doesn't happen --->it's too rare to worry about--->ok it happens but it's not a problem."

Just stick to one position. It's not rare, it just happened in oregon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...irls-track-race-state-championship-rcna153383
https://www.outsports.com/2022/3/1/...ns-athlete-championship-national-world-title/

“look it happened once in Oregon” is the definition of rare. Hundreds of thousands of youth athletes and it “just happened here!!” My god the idiocy

 

[beast blazer]

Me vs the leftys of S2

 

[beast blazer]

 

[Phatguysrule]

we have been listening and witnessing the last 4 years.
America got tired of the non common sense approach that this admin was making in its decision.
I know 90% of this board disagrees with me on that statement, but clearly going by the results of this election (landslide EC and winning PV) the majority of people in the US agree with me.

And no I will not provide a link for every non common sense approach the Biden/Harris admin has made, which some of you will request.

I don't necessarily need a link but it would be interesting to know what these things are...

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Me vs the leftys of S2

The little dumbshit apparently hasn't heard that Trump's Extreme Court took away a woman's right to choose. Yep Beast, keep trotting out the little Einsteins........

 

[Galakelife]

I don't necessarily need a link but it would be interesting to know what these things are...

Unvetted wide open border with record illegal immigration. Dont tell me Trump killed the bill, that bill was bullshit and kept the border open and the added resources just processed more people in legally.
Men playing against woman in sports, even if it is rare, it is fundamentally wrong for an even playing field. And even if it was even on the field, the fact that there are men with dicks in the locker rooms at collages is not right.
I am not anti electric cars, but mandating for all electric cars in the new future will not work for everyone.
Mandating the vaccine pissed a lot of people off.
Calling everything racist just grinded on people. When epople started saying climate change was due to racism....

None of these items (minus the border) are not individually huge, but when they are all combined, that obviously left enough people feeling that the direction the US was heading was not correct.

This lead to a landslide victory for all of us uneducated Trump followers.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Unvetted wide open border with record illegal immigration.

Thanks for spelling out your concerns. I appreciate it.

I've edited my earlier comment below to give a quick reply to my thoughts on your comments.

Dont tell me Trump killed the bill, that bill was bullshit and kept the border open and the added resources just processed more people in legally.

If we could get enough people processed legally we'd be far more able to monitor the illegal crossings. You have to start somewhere. And the most logical place to start is getting people who could cross legally wanting to cross legally.

This makes the enforcement portion much easier. You're right, if that is the intent, I wish that they would actually explain it that way.

However, again I don't think either side actually wants to resolve this issue. And this is why we don't get better descriptions of proposed policies. Both sides get far too much financial backing to allow it.

Or, maybe, as a wise man once said, it is just incompetence...

Men playing against woman in sports, even if it is rare, it is fundamentally wrong for an even playing field. And even if it was even on the field, the fact that there are men with dicks in the locker rooms at collages is not right.

I agree. Natural Born Men should not be competing against women unless it is a unisex event. All events should have an option for naturally born females if there are enough interested to field a competition.

I don't particularly care about the locker room issue. I think there should be private restrooms and private showers. This seems like a non-issue to me.

I feel like trying to force naturally born females to compete against people who aren't naturally born females is the biggest problem here, and I agree I think it turned off a lot of people. I think it costed Democrats a lot of votes.

I am not anti electric cars, but mandating for all electric cars in the new future will not work for everyone.

I think that electric cars can work in nearly any non-industrial application now, and all applications in the future. Even if some of those electric cars were to be fitted with a generator for extended use.

Making laws requiring the manufacturer of low emission vehicles I think is not a problem at all. There will always be used vehicles that can be purchased during the transition.

I think this is a wedge issue that the right has clung to for the simple purpose of riling people up.

Mandating the vaccine pissed a lot of people off.

The vaccine wasn't mandated. They're simply wasn't a restriction on allowing employers to mandate vaccines.

This is also a nothing burger in my opinion. I don't think that we should make decisions like that based on political reasoning.

If employers or businesses require recommended and safe vaccinations, that is up to the business. You should not be allowed to force yourself into a situation where you are at increased risk of infecting another person. Any more than naturally born females should be forced to compete against people who aren't naturally born females.

I don't care if it pisses people off. But you're right, I believe that the Republicans took advantage of this. And I see them as evil for doing so.

Calling everything racist just grinded on people. When epople started saying climate change was due to racism....

I'm not sure about the people claiming climate change is due to racism, but climate change is definitely real. It is definitely man caused. This is not opinion. This is scientific fact. Our actions are exacerbating climate change.

I'm not going to ask for a link, because you have already indicated that you aren't interested in going there. However, the claim that climate change is due to racism honestly just sounds like a Republican talking point to me. Another evil one.

None of these items (minus the border) are not individually huge, but when they are all combined, that obviously left enough people feeling that the direction the US was heading was not correct.

This lead to a landslide victory for all of us uneducated Trump followers.

Again, I wish Democrats would explain these things better. I'm not a registered Democrat and I wouldn't want to be in a position of defending them. The reality is I don't think they want these issues resolved any more than I think Republicans actually want them solved.

I do think Republican policies are far more harmful than Democrat.

 

[Galakelife]

Thanks for spelling out your concerns. I appreciate it.

Some thoughts that follow... I wish Democrats would explain these things better. But the reality is I don't think they want these issues resolved any more than I think Republicans actually want them solved



If we could get enough people pre legally we'd be far more able to monitor

Yes I am not anti immigration, but they choose to not monitor it at all and just let anybody who wanted in to be let in.
And then when people found out that they were actually flying other immigrants in on planes to different locations people werent happy.
They of course denied they were flying immigrants in, and then later it was proven and they admitted that this was one of this admins policies.

They just kept doing things that most of the US did not agree with, and the voters decided enough was enough

 

[PCmor7]

These are the games you lefties play, "It doesn't happen --->it's too rare to worry about--->ok it happens but it's not a problem."

Just stick to one position. It's not rare, it just happened in oregon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...irls-track-race-state-championship-rcna153383
https://www.outsports.com/2022/3/1/...ns-athlete-championship-national-world-title/

It's not rare because is happened ... again?

You know, though, I'm glad you replied while I was at church, because I wanted to ask you something about this.

You talk about your reasoning behind denigrating 1.6 million Americans because of "men playing girls sports" (actually happened a handful of times) and "men using girls bathrooms" (which displays a high degree of ignorance of how things actually are).

So you say you're defending women.

OK.

Beast, depending on which advocacy site you use, 1 in 5 or 1 in 6 American women have been a victim of rape or attempted rape.

More than 80% of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows.

Family members commit 34% of those.

Dads. Uncles. Friends of parents and siblings. Boyfriends that just won't take no for an answer. Spouses.

Now THAT is a problem. That's a big number and it's probably bigger because we're only going by what's reported.

It created trauma, mistrust, fear, physical injures, unwanted pregnancies.

It's a lot more prevalent than trans people doing this.

So, since your problem with trans people is keeping girls and women safe, I presume THIS is even a bigger issue to you.

What are you doing about it?

 

[PCmor7]

 

[PCmor7]

Unvetted wide open border with record illegal immigration. Dont tell me Trump killed the bill, that bill was bullshit and kept the border open and the added resources just processed more people in legally.
Men playing against woman in sports, even if it is rare, it is fundamentally wrong for an even playing field. And even if it was even on the field, the fact that there are men with dicks in the locker rooms at collages is not right.
I am not anti electric cars, but mandating for all electric cars in the new future will not work for everyone.
Mandating the vaccine pissed a lot of people off.
Calling everything racist just grinded on people. When epople started saying climate change was due to racism....

None of these items (minus the border) are not individually huge, but when they are all combined, that obviously left enough people feeling that the direction the US was heading was not correct.

This lead to a landslide victory for all of us uneducated Trump followers.

I think your last line is a tell.

You're talking about a bunch of things that largely play little part in our everyday lives and people voting for less freedom and less economic growth because you feel treated like you're uneducated.

But earlier in the very same post you talk about Trump not killing a bill that was put forward by some of the most conservative legislators in Congress -- he did kill the bill -- and about an "open border." The border has to be open for proper trade, as the Texas governor discovered pretty quickly. A closed border like you seem to be suggesting will crush our economy.

And the vaccine mandate was an issue because people in the MAGA movement made it an issue. I suspect you got a lot of mandated vaccines since you were little and didn't complain about it. We all got those.

So you don't want to be made to feel uneducated ... in a post where you are actually showing a lack of understanding of issues and then are raging about it.

This is something I can't help. If you want to be informed and educated, information is easier to access today than ever. Inform yourself on these issues rather than getting angry at people like me for actually explaining something you clearly don't want to bother to try to understand and voting against your own interests to "own libs."

 

[Phatguysrule]

Yes I am not anti immigration, but they choose to not monitor it at all and just let anybody who wanted in to be let in.
And then when people found out that they were actually flying other immigrants in on planes to different locations people werent happy.
They of course denied they were flying immigrants in, and then later it was proven and they admitted that this was one of this admins policies.

They just kept doing things that most of the US did not agree with, and the voters decided enough was enough

Thanks again. I edited my prior response with some of my thoughts.

Again, I do appreciate your efforts to explain your position.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

It's not rare because is happened ... again?

You know, though, I'm glad you replied while I was at church, because I wanted to ask you something about this.

You talk about your reasoning behind denigrating 1.6 million Americans because of "men playing girls sports" (actually happened a handful of times) and "men using girls bathrooms" (which displays a high degree of ignorance of how things actually are).

So you say you're defending women.

OK.

Beast, depending on which advocacy site you use, 1 in 5 or 1 in 6 American women have been a victim of rape or attempted rape.

More than 80% of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows.

Family members commit 34% of those.

Dads. Uncles. Friends of parents and siblings. Boyfriends that just won't take no for an answer. Spouses.

Now THAT is a problem. That's a big number and it's probably bigger because we're only going by what's reported.

It created trauma, mistrust, fear, physical injures, unwanted pregnancies.

It's a lot more prevalent than trans people doing this.

So, since your problem with trans people is keeping girls and women safe, I presume THIS is even a bigger issue to you.

What are you doing about it?

If he responds to your post like he responds to everything else, he won’t do anything about it but whine….and then act like he “owned the libs”. Basic Beast 101……

 

[PCmor7]

If he responds to your post like he responds to everything else, he won’t do anything about it but whine….and then act like he “owned the libs”. Basic Beast 101……

Maybe that'll offset the increased cost of everyday goods he'll be spending because of tariffs.

 

[Galakelife]

I think your last line is a tell.

You're talking about a bunch of things that largely play little part in our everyday lives and people voting for less freedom and less economic growth because you feel treated like you're uneducated.

But earlier in the very same post you talk about Trump not killing a bill that was put forward by some of the most conservative legislators in Congress -- he did kill the bill -- and about an "open border." The border has to be open for proper trade, as the Texas governor discovered pretty quickly. A closed border like you seem to be suggesting will crush our economy.

And the vaccine mandate was an issue because people in the MAGA movement made it an issue. I suspect you got a lot of mandated vaccines since you were little and didn't complain about it. We all got those.

So you don't want to be made to feel uneducated ... in a post where you are actually showing a lack of understanding of issues and then are raging about it.

This is something I can't help. If you want to be informed and educated, information is easier to access today than ever. Inform yourself on these issues rather than getting angry at people like me for actually explaining something you clearly don't want to bother to try to understand and voting against your own interests to "own libs."

Thank you this post made me laugh.
I should have put the word uneducated in green so you knew I was being sarcastic. I thought someone as brilliant as you would have picked up on that.
Trump killed the bill because it still allowed too many people into the US.
A closed border still allows goods to move back and forth, it stops the illegal immigrants from entering by just walking across the border.
Vaccine mandate was an issue because some of us( me included) were threatened with our jobs unless we got the vaccine by a certain date.

Please tell me where I was raging and getting angry in this post....Compared to the violent content some of you Democrats post on this board I am very mellow.

I dont see less freedom under Trump, I definetly see more economic growth under Trump then what Biden did. Maybe we can actually start adding productive jobs and not just making the government bigger since that is where Biden added his jobs. Of course it will be tough to top the 12,000 jobs he added last month (that was sarcasm)

 

[Chris Craig]

Thank you this post made me laugh.
I should have put the word uneducated in green so you knew I was being sarcastic. I thought someone as brilliant as you would have picked up on that.
Trump killed the bill because it still allowed too many people into the US.
A closed border still allows goods to move back and forth, it stops the illegal immigrants from entering by just walking across the border.
Vaccine mandate was an issue because some of us( me included) were threatened with our jobs unless we got the vaccine by a certain date.

Please tell me where I was raging and getting angry in this post....Compared to the violent content some of you Democrats post on this board I am very mellow.

I dont see less freedom under Trump, I definetly see more economic growth under Trump then what Biden did. Maybe we can actually start adding productive jobs and not just making the government bigger since that is where Biden added his jobs. Of course it will be tough to top the 12,000 jobs he added last month (that was sarcasm)

He didn't kill the bill for any good reason other than to stop the Democrats from having a victory and stop them from getting any momentum going into the election. And, it worked wonders.

His policies and choices eroded freedom and will continue to erode freedom even far more so now. As a white man you probably won't notice much of that if you aren't looking outside of your personal bubble.

 

[Galakelife]

He didn't kill the bill for any good reason other than to stop the Democrats from having a victory and stop them from getting any momentum going into the election. And, it worked wonders.

His policies and choices eroded freedom and will continue to erode freedom even far more so now. As a white man you probably won't notice much of that if you aren't looking outside of your personal bubble.

What freedoms got eroded during his presidency?
You might not want to go with the white male thing, my spouse isnt white.

 

[Chris Craig]

What freedoms got eroded during his presidency?
You might not want to go with the white male thing, my spouse isnt white.

Woman's rights was a big one, you must have missed it.

He is about to take more of those away

And he is going for LGBTQ rights now.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

So is Vance's. Not stopping him.

 

[Galakelife]

Woman's rights was a big one, you must have missed it.

He is about to take more of those away

And he is going for LGBTQ rights now.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

So is Vance's. Not stopping him.

What specific womans right got removed