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jonnyboy said:
This smug shit is exactly why you lost. Keep it up! And keep viewing worthless college degrees as status symbols, us people in the trades will need “educated” people to serve us coffee and drinks.
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No we lost because we don’t speak to the dumb people well enough. Dems need to shift their outreach to a different audience. It worked for Trump, we should learn from him.
 
jonnyboy said:
I was responding to a tweet you clearly did not see or read. It had nothing to do with tariffs or illegals.
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But it had to do with us who are “smug” about the intelligence levels of Trump supporters. And that is what I was responding to.
 
GoZers said:
No we lost because we don’t speak to the dumb people well enough. Dems need to shift their outreach to a different audience. It worked for Trump, we should learn from him.
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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
But it had to do with us who are “smug” about the intelligence levels of Trump supporters. And that is what I was responding to.
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It’s funny, there’s just no way you guys can get your point across without sounding like smug, pompous assholes. It’s probably because the point you are making is a smug, pompous one.

The midwit, pseudo intelligent, wannabe elitists of the country do not command the respect they think they are entitled to and they are completely aloof to it. All they can come up with is:

“We need to get the inferior retard class tricked into liking us, but how?”

It’s painfully obvious, ignorant and out of touch.
 
GoZers said:
No we lost because we don’t speak to the dumb people well enough. Dems need to shift their outreach to a different audience. It worked for Trump, we should learn from him.
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While this is true, I think it needs to be more of a general focus on a narrower platform that will restrict fewer people (fewer than some current proposals, if for no other reason then reducing friction), yet will help the vast majority.

If you focus on a few solutions that can help large numbers of people, along with an emphasis on protecting individual rights, I think it becomes easier to create a large coalition and a massive base.
 
jonnyboy said:
It’s funny, there’s just no way you guys can get your point across without sounding like smug, pompous assholes.
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It might not be the way the point is being presented. It might be the way the point is being taken.

When someone makes a point and even goes through the trouble of explaining it and the response they get is "That's not true" with no further explanation, and then you cite data and facts and again you get the exact same response as if you didn't write anything, it does kind of seem more like the latter is more upset about being ill-prepared to discuss the topic than the former talking down to them on purpose.

In other words, if you don't bother to learn anything about the topics, you probably are going to feel like a child and embarrassed talking to people that did.

I remember all through Trump's first term hearing "F your feelings." Now I'm being told that F-ing someone's feelings when their actions are going to damage the fabric of the country is the actual bad thing. I don't even know what you guys are trying to do anymore. And, from stuff I've seen, it doesn't look like you really do, either.

Sorry if that comes off as smug and pompous, but trying to honestly explain things to people who only are interested in policy as a punchline and seldom offer intellectually honest discussion gets old after 10 years, and that will tend to wind up in the end probably sounding smug and pompous.

Oh, and if it makes me an a-hole for trying to protect at-risk brothers and sisters in this country when they are unnecessarily attacked to scare ignorant people just so already failed policies can be reinstated by already failed legislators, then, yeah, I'll gladly be that a-hole eight days a week.
 
Chris Craig said:
You going to get older people to work in fields? Young people aren't going to do that. You guys are deporting all the immigrants, that includes migrants, though I guess you guys will let some of them back in to work for you.

I have never said borders should be wise open. It's something that has needed to be fixed for a long time. It was a problem during Trump's first term. Building a wall, putting kids in cages, and shooting people is not the solution. We need better management of getting people in legally so people don't feel like they have to cross in illegally.
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I wonder if they’re going to do a thing like “we put them all in camps and that means they’re prisoners now so they can legally be slave labor” and just rent out the prisoners to the companies that lost their labor pool, shifting who gets the money from the immigrants to the government.
 
Wheels said:
People rooting for politicians like they do for sports teams is wild to me.
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I also think of it like wearing a t-shirt with the name and picture of the guy I hired on it.

If I own a Wendy's, there's no way, no matter how much I like them, I'm putting a flag on my house saying that Jimmy who works the late shift is great.
 
Everything Beagle said:
I wonder if they’re going to do a thing like “we put them all in camps and that means they’re prisoners now so they can legally be slave labor” and just rent out the prisoners to the companies that lost their labor pool, shifting who gets the money from the immigrants to the government.
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In Idaho picking potatoes after all the migrants that were picking them have been deported ... that does seem on brand.
 
jonnyboy said:
. I’m sure degrading everyone who you don’t align with politically will eventually pan out for you.
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That's actually the entire Trump playbook! It also worked for Mao's Red Guard and Putin's Kremlin as well as Kim's N. Korean head in the sand govt.. Just because it pans out doesn't make it a good thing.
 
Chris Craig said:
No they aren't. No they cannot.
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Well some are and some can.
Ive seen slurs and name calling dismissed. But if you offer facts from a government website and push back on all the belittling that came from doing so, it’s near bannable behavior.

Just have to have an in with the leaders and you can get away with almost anything here.
 
Steve Bannon: The Hunters are about to become the hunted. This is why it was understood until 15 minutes ago that lawfare was not a good game to play against your political opponent.
 
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