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beast blazer said:
An agency and it's employees personally profit off the very treatments they propose to the public, and you don't see the conflict of interest?
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The FDA doesn't "propose" treatments. They approve drugs that pass the necessary hurdles, yes.

You seem to think the NIH and the FDA are the same agency. They aren't.
A researcher at the NIH getting royalties on some drug she helped discover isn't over at the FDA approving the drug for general use.
The FDA and NIH each have about 18,000 employees. With different responsibilities.
There are outside reviewers. There are audits. There are firewalls.
I'm not saying there's zero chance for corruption, there's always chance for corruption when humans are involved.
But your understanding of the way the agencies function is cartoonish at best.

What Fauci "recommends" turns into policy and mandates.
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Well, first off, he's retired now.

Why did he recommend Remdesivir for example? He cited a study in which it was used to treat Ebola, but failed to mention that more people DIED in the Remdesivir treatment group than the placebo group. You can't make this shit up.
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No, I can't, but you certainly can.

And we're told to blindy "trust the science" as though Fauci's proclaimations are "the science".
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You don't have to blindly trust the science. You can put in the necessary effort to educate yourself, such that you can read the literature at an expert level. It will take you a few years of hard work, but it would be worth it - you wouldn't have to take anyone else's word for it.

But, since you don't know the science, and you aren't going to learn it, the smart thing for you to do would be to, yes, blindly trust the science. That's a better route than blindly listening to, and repeating, the lies and misconceptions of other people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Now the whole public health industry is hyper focused on drugs and vaccines, and has approved a lot of toxic pesiticides and food additives that are illegal in europe.

Gee wiz, do you think the conflict $ interest could be at play here?
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Sure, it could be. But you haven't presented any evidence that it is. Speculation isn't worth much.

barfo
 
beast blazer said:
You see, the difference is when conservatives claim politicians are going to do X, we can actually back it up with things those politicians have said.
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That's why there are no longer any guns! The Dems took them all like you said. And everyone I know has had an abortion and transitioned multiple times. My kids school has a litter box in every classroom. And women's sports are overrun with men pretending to be women and dominating the fields.
Fuck off
 
RR7 said:
That's why there are no longer any guns! The Dems took them all like you said. And everyone I know has had an abortion and transitioned multiple times. My kids school has a litter box in every classroom. And women's sports are overrun with men pretending to be women and dominating the fields.
Fuck off
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You forgot school libraries are full of pornography.
 
What are we even talking about?
LeBron James endorses Kamala Harris for president: ‘The choice is clear’
jack baer
Staff writer
Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 4:47 PM PDT·2 min read In case there was any confusion on where LeBron James stands in the 2024 presidential election, he made his views very clear on Thursday.
The Los Angeles Lakers star posted a video on social media officially endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris over former President Donald Trump. He included a pointed video featuring a racist watermelon joke made by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe at Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden on Sunday, an appearance that has since been widely criticized and partially disowned by Trump himself. The video also included past comments Trump has made on race.

Plainly speaking, it is not a surprise that LeBron James endorsed the opponent of Donald Trump. The two have been at odds repeatedly since Trump's election in 2016, during which James endorsed Hillary Clinton. No NBA champion visited Trump during his presidency, with James playing a vocal part in the back-and-forth involved. James has received some nice words from Trump's wife Melania, though.

The most memorable episode of James and Trump's clash was when he directly called the president a bum after disinviting the Golden State Warriors from the White House, something Stephen Curry said he wasn't interested in doing.



 
Im laughing at all the polls and continue my steadfast belief of never believing any polls for anyone.

3 or 4 of them say Kamala is gonna win, 3 or 4 say the dumbass is gonna win.

Why even have polls? I'm sure they are skewed for either side.

Its the same thing with sports and why I almost never talk about any of the pregame stuff... it doesn't matter until the day arrives
 




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The beast guy who had to change his name because it was racist, and his friend johnny Montana must be very proud of their fellow Trump supporters on this one!

 
THE HCP said:
The beast guy who had to change his name because it was racist, and his friend johnny Montana must be very proud of their fellow Trump supporters on this one!

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Now that's racist
 
"Little Secret"? Elie Mystal on Trump's Likely Plan to Steal Election with GOP House Speaker Johnson

 
Maybe one of the guys can explain this.

I understand half the gender gap. Trump boasts of overturning Roe. He is legally responsible for rape. His words and actions towards women have been despicable for decades. So women favoring Harris by a large margin isn't surprising.

It's the other half of the gender gap that needs explaining. Unlike Hillary Clinton, who had been demonized for years, Harris doesn't have strong negatives. She is physically attractive and personable. She is running on a centrist platform. Yet male voters, including many who voted for Biden, aren't supporting her. Is it just that men won't vote for a woman? Because a woman can't be qualified? Is she automatically seen as weak or at least weaker, rather ironic considering how weak Trump is? Are men so insecure they can't handle a successful woman? What?
 
crandc said:
Maybe one of the guys can explain this.

I understand half the gender gap. Trump boasts of overturning Roe. He is legally responsible for rape. His words and actions towards women have been despicable for decades. So women favoring Harris by a large margin isn't surprising.

It's the other half of the gender gap that needs explaining. Unlike Hillary Clinton, who had been demonized for years, Harris doesn't have strong negatives. She is physically attractive and personable. She is running on a centrist platform. Yet male voters, including many who voted for Biden, aren't supporting her. Is it just that men won't vote for a woman? Because a woman can't be qualified? Is she automatically seen as weak or at least weaker, rather ironic considering how weak Trump is? Are men so insecure they can't handle a successful woman? What?
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All of the above, and that she's Samoan/Malaysian, plus we are - let's face it - morons.

barfo
 
crandc said:
Maybe one of the guys can explain this.

I understand half the gender gap. Trump boasts of overturning Roe. He is legally responsible for rape. His words and actions towards women have been despicable for decades. So women favoring Harris by a large margin isn't surprising.

It's the other half of the gender gap that needs explaining. Unlike Hillary Clinton, who had been demonized for years, Harris doesn't have strong negatives. She is physically attractive and personable. She is running on a centrist platform. Yet male voters, including many who voted for Biden, aren't supporting her. Is it just that men won't vote for a woman? Because a woman can't be qualified? Is she automatically seen as weak or at least weaker, rather ironic considering how weak Trump is? Are men so insecure they can't handle a successful woman? What?
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Those male voters who voted for Biden and are not supporting Kamala, are they voting at all? I think there will be bunch of voters that typically vote conservative that won't vote at all. Maybe men put the border, national security and the economy over the abortion issue?
 
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Hoopguru said:
Those make voters who voted for Biden and are not supporting Kamala, are they voting at all? I think there will be bunch of voters that typically vote conservative that won't vote at all. Maybe men put the border, national security and the economy over the abortion issue?
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Trump stopped border bill. Economy under Biden has out performed rest of the world. Trump admires Putin, Xi, Kim Jong Un, and despises allies.

We will see if those men don't vote or cross over.

Do men care about character?
 
crandc said:
Maybe one of the guys can explain this.

I understand half the gender gap. Trump boasts of overturning Roe. He is legally responsible for rape. His words and actions towards women have been despicable for decades. So women favoring Harris by a large margin isn't surprising.

It's the other half of the gender gap that needs explaining. Unlike Hillary Clinton, who had been demonized for years, Harris doesn't have strong negatives. She is physically attractive and personable. She is running on a centrist platform. Yet male voters, including many who voted for Biden, aren't supporting her. Is it just that men won't vote for a woman? Because a woman can't be qualified? Is she automatically seen as weak or at least weaker, rather ironic considering how weak Trump is? Are men so insecure they can't handle a successful woman? What?
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It's a mystery to me why some men will be voting for Trump over Harris. It's even more of a mystery to me that some women will be voting for Trump over Harris.
 
crandc said:
Trump stopped border bill. Economy under Biden has out performed rest of the world. Trump admires Putin, Xi, Kim Jong Un, and despises allies.

We will see if those men don't vote or cross over.

Do men care about character?
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I think so, most men do. I just think there are more men that would typically vote for republican and even trump last time that won't vote for him this time. And women too. There will be more women conservatives voting for Kamala imo. Having worked for a mid west manufacturer (union) for many years, many of them back there think that we liberals out west are socialist. These are the ones that ride Harleys and hang American flags from the rafters. Not sure having Cheney helps? Tim should help for WIS & Mich imo.
 
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crandc said:
Maybe one of the guys can explain this.

I understand half the gender gap. Trump boasts of overturning Roe. He is legally responsible for rape. His words and actions towards women have been despicable for decades. So women favoring Harris by a large margin isn't surprising.

It's the other half of the gender gap that needs explaining. Unlike Hillary Clinton, who had been demonized for years, Harris doesn't have strong negatives. She is physically attractive and personable. She is running on a centrist platform. Yet male voters, including many who voted for Biden, aren't supporting her. Is it just that men won't vote for a woman? Because a woman can't be qualified? Is she automatically seen as weak or at least weaker, rather ironic considering how weak Trump is? Are men so insecure they can't handle a successful woman? What?
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Could be way overblown they are not supporting her...all men

New polling finds Harris gaining with a group she has ...NPRhttps://www.npr.org › 2024/10/28 › nx-s1-5169193
 
THE HCP said:
The beast guy who had to change his name because it was racist, and his friend johnny Montana must be very proud of their fellow Trump supporters on this one!

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I'll never understand why seemingly grown ass men worship and make it their personal calling to be internet trolls to defend a petulant 78 year old con man.

Does @jonnyboy ever post about the Blazers?
 
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