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Who will "Win?"

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PCmor7 said:
Eh. Details. Give me a week and a good set of Constitutional resources and it'd look like getting out of a speeding ticket.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they tried, but it's there.
 
GoZers said:
Exactly. Think antifa x a million.
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Yeah, people would burn this country down before they let him become dictator or king.
 
Hoopguru said:
This is what pisses me off the most that, its twice he's won, and it should have been a landslide for the dem candidate this time.
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Should have been.

Sometimes you have to learn a lesson the hard way.
 
It really is embarrassing... the way this whole thing went down.
I like Joes speech today, he did well. He should have not run again, but allowed a primary process for a new candidate and message.
 
Chris Craig said:
The good thing is even with the Senate, Congress, and Supreme Court (and oh he's going to do some wicked shit with their help) he can't change the constitution without a 2/3 vote. He won't get that.
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Does it require a real 2/3 vote or 2/3 because of the imminently repeal-able filibuster?
 
Chris Craig said:
We have seen what a shitty president he is. He is also good pals with Netanyahu. He is going to let him wipe Palestine and Iran off the map. You think he cares?
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Why are you asking me questions you know the answer to. You know I don't think he cares. I'm putting myself in someone else's shoes. Gambling on a what if is better than the status quo. That's their thinking.
 
AmirIcon said:
Why are you asking me questions you know the answer to. You know I don't think he cares. I'm putting myself in someone else's shoes. Gambling on a what if is better than the status quo. That's their thinking.
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What is your thinking?
 
AmirIcon said:
I've already put it in plain English a dozen times. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

You can ask me anything.
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You said a bunch of stuff but now you’re attributing it to other people, so now I can’t tell what your actual opinion is.

Ultimately it doesn’t matter, of course. And like, if I die because of this administration, you wouldn’t feel guilty about it anyway so I guess there’s no point in caring what you think or trying to convince you of anything.

I don’t hate you or anything and I agree with you on a lot of things, but I certainly don’t trust you now. I’m putting you on ignore to avoid conflict; it’s nothing personal.
 
Everything Beagle said:
You said a bunch of stuff but now you’re attributing it to other people, so now I can’t tell what your actual opinion is.

Ultimately it doesn’t matter, of course. And like, if I die because of this administration, you wouldn’t feel guilty about it anyway so I guess there’s no point in caring what you think or trying to convince you of anything.

I don’t hate you or anything and I agree with you on a lot of things, but I certainly don’t trust you now.
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The theatrics is absolutely bananas. Get a grip.

Why would I feel guilty? I didn't vote for Trump.

Logic again escapes you.
 
AmirIcon said:
You're the one crying on a message board. The opposite of immature over here. I'm coming across very understandable and putting myself in other people's shoes. Try it.
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No tears here.

You aren't putting yourself in others shoes. You are reproaching others.

I take people into account. I listen, I try to be understandable. Not always easy in OT. Especially when it comes to politics, but I try.
 
Chris Craig said:
No tears here.

You aren't putting yourself in others shoes. You are reproaching others.

I take people into account. I listen, I try to be understandable. Not always easy in OT. Especially when it comes to politics, but I try.
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You said Trump was a bigger genocide enabler which is categorically false at this time and haven't backed up your comment.

I'd love you to tell a Palestinian they shouldn't cast a vote for someone else because that someone else is theoretically worse while their family members are literally being ripped apart and incinerated.
 
AmirIcon said:
You said Trump was a bigger genocide enabler which is categorically false at this time and haven't backed up your comment.

I'd love you to tell a Palestinian they shouldn't cast a vote for someone else because that someone else is theoretically worse while their family members are literally being ripped apart and incinerated.
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The Biden administration has tried to help them. Sent food and water so they wouldn't starve. They have been trying to get peace talks going. Netanyahu doesn't want that. They aren't the ones committing genocide, Netanyahu is.

It's really shitty what is going on over there. I see you are very passionate about it. That's great. I want nothing more than Palestine to have their land and Israel to have theirs.

I don't believe Trump will be better than Harris on that matter. We will see. He is good friends with Netanyahu. He supports Israel over Palestine. He might get him to stop, at least while he is president. Do, I believe Trump will be a savior for the Palestinian people, no.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Trump is a zionist. Do you agree with that @AmirIcon ?
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I'm leaning yes, but I think it's a bit more complicated. I don't think he would call himself a Zionist. I think he does whatever he thinks makes sense (cents). He's not married to any one ideology. He'd sell his mother out for the right price.

The one thing I guess I could say in the positive for Trump, if he wanted a red line, I don't think too many are crossing it. Not like Biden having a red line and getting spit in his face repeatedly.
 
AmirIcon said:
I'm leaning yes, but I think it's a bit more complicated. I don't think he would call himself a Zionist. I think he does whatever he thinks makes sense (cents). He's not married to any one ideology. He'd sell his mother out for the right price.

The one thing I guess I could say in the positive for Trump, if he wanted a red line, I don't think too many are crossing it. Not like Biden having a red line and getting spit in his face repeatedly.
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We shall see. He supports Israel just like the Biden Administration.
 
Chris Craig said:
I didn't say they did a good job at it.
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The gestures are purely performative so his base doesn't take his head off. It's not real. He's as much in on it as Bibi himself.

Only two options here. The other is he's severely weak and incompetent and he's not fit to be President. It's certainly the first option but if you disagree, the second doesn't help your cause either.
 
AmirIcon said:
The gestures are purely performative so his base doesn't take his head off. It's not real. He's as much in on it as Bibi himself.

Only two options here. The other is he's severely weak and incompetent and he's not fit to be President. It's certainly the first option but if you disagree, the second doesn't help your cause either.
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He stepped back from the election for a reason. I know he talked about brokering peace. Harris didn't talk much about the conflict over there and she should have as I said earlier. She did say she saw both sides and wanted to broker peace.

It makes it hard when Netanyahu doesn't want that and won't listen. It makes it harder when it's your ally.

Like, I said maybe Trump will get him to stop, at least until his term is over.
 
Chris Craig said:
He stepped back from the election for a reason. I know he talked about brokering peace. Harris didn't talk much about the conflict over there and she should have as I said earlier. She did say she saw both sides and wanted to broker peace.

It makes it hard when Netanyahu doesn't want that and won't listen. It makes it harder when it's your ally.

Like, I said maybe Trump will get him to stop, at least until his term is over.
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How are Biden and Harris to the right of Reagan and both Bush imbeciles? They had red lines and threatened to pull funding.

That got it done. Not too difficult unless you're compromised.
 
PCmor7 said:
Some are born great, some achieve greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them ... and others are content being forum mods.
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Content makes poor men rich.
 
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