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Honestly, I passed because living in Oakland can't stand watching Warriors with all the grovelling.

Oh well. Their bandwagon fans will call this worse than Notre Dame de Paris burning.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
He's a terrible GM. But getting this group to the playoffs, getting a Darrel Armstrong lead Magic team to the playoffs is really impressive.
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This group?...

He had Tobias Harris, Danilo Gallinari, Lou Williams, Montrezl Harrell and SGA and got the 8th seed. That's not impressive.
 
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BonesJones said:
This group?...

He had Tobias Harris, Danilo Gallinari, Lou Williams, Montrezl Harrell and SGA and got the 8th seed. That's not impressive.
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Yeah this group. One borderline all star who isnt even there anymore. An oft injured slow guy, a rookie and a couple really good bench players does not equal a really talented roster.

I dont like Doc but 48 wins in the west is pretty good.
 
BonesJones said:
so his injury tendencies (which are still overstated)
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This is simply a fallacy.

Let's not forget Blake Griffin sat out his entire 09' rookie season.

So in his 10 year career he's had 3 seasons where he played 80+ games.

He was injured the other 7 seasons. And he's always injured in the playoffs.

I'm good.
 
Man, of all the years to have our star center go down.... ugh.

GS looks shot this year. Getting to the finals 5 yrs in a row is ridiculously hard-- don't think they'll win this year even if they do get there.
 
dviss1 said:
This is simply a fallacy.

Let's not forget Blake Griffin sat out his entire 09' rookie season.

So in his 10 year career he's had 3 seasons where he played 80+ games.

He was injured the other 7 seasons. And he's always injured in the playoffs.

I'm good.
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Close. 66 games in 2012 was the full season. So he's been injured 6 seasons, not 7.
 
dviss1 said:
This is simply a fallacy.

Let's not forget Blake Griffin sat out his entire 09' rookie season.

So in his 10 year career he's had 3 seasons where he played 80+ games.

He was injured the other 7 seasons. And he's always injured in the playoffs.

I'm good.
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I've given you more recent and relevant stats that you've conveniently ignored in order to continue your blind and biased hatred of a love that would give Portland a chance to finally win a championship.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
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Yeah this group. One borderline all star who isnt even there anymore. An oft injured slow guy, a rookie and a couple really good bench players does not equal a really talented roster.

I dont like Doc but 48 wins in the west is pretty good.
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He has 4 borderline all-stars based on their performance this season, with a lot of good role players behind them.

Doc has never, and will never, be a good coach.
 
crandc said:
Honestly, I passed because living in Oakland can't stand watching Warriors with all the grovelling.

Oh well. Their bandwagon fans will call this worse than Notre Dame de Paris burning.
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Was their loss an accident too?
 
BonesJones said:
I've given you more recent and relevant stats that you've conveniently ignored in order to continue your blind and biased hatred of a love that would give Portland a chance to finally win a championship.
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What's love go to do with it?
 
BonesJones said:
He has 4 borderline all-stars based on their performance this season, with a lot of good role players behind them.

Doc has never, and will never, be a good coach.
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I'd say he has 0 borderline all-stars right now and his closest got traded to Philly, maybe those guys are borderline all-stars in the east.
I like Harrell and Lou is a good bench scorer but not even close to all-star level to me.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I'd say he has 0 borderline all-stars right now and his closest got traded to Philly, maybe those guys are borderline all-stars in the east.
I like Harrell and Lou is a good bench scorer but not even close to all-star level to me.
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You're really sleeping on those guys then:

Core 3 Stats (Per 36)
Williams - 20/5 (27/7)
Harrell - 17/7 (23/9)
Gallinari - 20/6 (24/7)

And then Tobias Harris for most of the season.
 
Is it just me, looking at Brooklyn beating Philadelphia, Orlando beating Toronto and Clippers beating GS, wonder how the hell we lost 8 straight playoff games? Some things Rivers said last night about changing some things on the fly, lineups, defensive and offensive schemes...... Hasn't that been Stotts' main weakness, in- game adjustments? Hopefully he has learned and will be ready this time.
 
BonesJones said:
You're really sleeping on those guys then:

Core 3 Stats (Per 36)
Williams - 20/5 (27/7)
Harrell - 17/7 (23/9)
Gallinari - 20/6 (24/7)

And then Tobias Harris for most of the season.
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Not sleeping on any of them, I just don't think their borderline allstars. Gallinari and Williams can't guard anyone. Harrell is good, but he's not an all-star maybe in a couple of years but I kind of doubt it.
Players that are better than them in the western conference (alone) is like 20 players long...
 
BonesJones said:
You're really sleeping on those guys then:

Core 3 Stats (Per 36)
Williams - 20/5 (27/7)
Harrell - 17/7 (23/9)
Gallinari - 20/6 (24/7)

And then Tobias Harris for most of the season.
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The problem with the whole point is "Borderline All-Stars". The difference between Borderline and not at all is like a couple points a game and a rebound or two. Maybe one full assist a game? The fact remains that at the NBA level most players can have an impact on the right team. Coaching and a willingness to play team ball all come into play. The biggest thing about those players is Gallinari and Williams are very wily veterans now. If you sleep on them they will make you pay. Harrell is now in 4th year and has improved every year. That dude absolutely plays with a chip on his shoulder and will out work you if you don't take him seriously. He's not a shooter though. Not a knock at all but he could use some better numbers outside 12 feet. But boy around the basket he is deadly. It's the difference between good player, great player, star, All Star. They are all good players no question.
 
BonesJones said:
You're really sleeping on those guys then:

Core 3 Stats (Per 36)
Williams - 20/5 (27/7)
Harrell - 17/7 (23/9)
Gallinari - 20/6 (24/7)

And then Tobias Harris for most of the season.
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Every team has players who get good per36 numbers. Someone has to score, someone has to rebound. Those guys aren’t All Stars but they’re very good.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Not sleeping on any of them, I just don't think their borderline allstars. Gallinari and Williams can't guard anyone. Harrell is good, but he's not an all-star maybe in a couple of years but I kind of doubt it.
Players that are better than them in the western conference (alone) is like 20 players long...
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Exactly. Suns have players with good per36 numbers too. Why aren’t they in playoffs?
 
KingSpeed said:
Every team has players who get good per36 numbers. Someone has to score, someone has to rebound. Those guys aren’t All Stars but they’re very good.
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Exactly. The NBA is full of good players that can win a game on any night.
 
Suns core per 36
Booker 27 ppg
Warren 20 ppg
Oubre 20 ppg
Ayton 19 ppg 12 rpg

They must have homecourt in the first round! Don’t sleep on them!
 
By the way, if a player could actually produce per36 in 36 minutes, then the coach would play him 36 minutes. I mean why hold Lou Williams back if he can average 27/7??
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Not sleeping on any of them, I just don't think their borderline allstars. Gallinari and Williams can't guard anyone. Harrell is good, but he's not an all-star maybe in a couple of years but I kind of doubt it.
Players that are better than them in the western conference (alone) is like 20 players long...
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Right? This LAC team is like a very poor man's version of Larry Brown's Pistons. Except the Pistons had legit all-stars, even if they were overshadowed by bigger stars. There isn't a single player on LAC that a GM would choose to build a roster around. It's a team of role players and they've exceeded expectations. Whether or not that's due to Doc is debatable.
 
Bones is gonna come out swinging whenever he wakes up.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Bones is gonna come out swinging whenever he wakes up.
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Look this is kind of some of the problem. You expect it and he pushes it. Don’t let that happen.
In his defense Bones has been very refined as of late.
A mod however should not goad it on.
 
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