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I can’t believe the lakers only have 3 more losses than the 4th place Suns. Crazy!
 
I am ready for the off-season. The tank games are pretty hard to watch.
 
Samuel said:
Every night we’re getting a fresh Shaedon Sharpe highlight package, idk.
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But it isn't real. They aren't playing real games and there is no actual talent he is playing with. A scrub could go out there and go for 25 a night with a couple dunks if they aren't actually trying to win and teams are not even worried about losing to the team you are playing for. Classic good numbers on a very bad team. Not impressed at all. His averages when playing with real NBA caliber players when the team was trying to win is what you have in Sharpe at this point.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
But it isn't real. They aren't playing real games and there is no actual talent he is playing with. A scrub could go out there and go for 25 a night with a couple dunks if they aren't actually trying to win and teams are not even worried about losing to the team you are playing for. Classic good numbers on a very bad team. Not impressed at all. His averages when playing with real NBA caliber players when the team was trying to win is what you have in Sharpe at this point.
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Nah, every night Shae is going out there as the focus of the opposing defense... he's not getting the bulk of his points at the end of the fourth or anything. So a scrub couldn't do it. We have scrubs and they aren't doing it.

Don't get me wrong I don't think that these numbers are what we should be expecting if Shae is starting next to Dame next season with Jerami and an actual second all star. What this run shows is that when he's called on to score, especially when he's the fourth option, he's going to be able to do it and do it well. The more impressive thing is the way he has been defending first string players. Shaedon is showing that he can be extremely competitive against NBA starters. If you aren't impressed by that, I don't know what to tell you.

Your assertion that we should judge Shaedon on his performance early in the season instead of his performance right now is ludicrous because the guy is developing at such a rapid rate. 19 years old, never saw any game action at the college level and you want us to forget what we're seeing now and over the last month and instead focus on what was going on three or four months ago because that's the real Shaedon?
 
Chris Craig said:
The western conference playoffs is basically the state of California. Boring.
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Doesn't it have Colorado, Arizona, and Tennessee in 3 of the top 4 spots? I agree California has too many teams.
 
blazerkor said:
Nah, every night Shae is going out there as the focus of the opposing defense... he's not getting the bulk of his points at the end of the fourth or anything. So a scrub couldn't do it. We have scrubs and they aren't doing it.

Don't get me wrong I don't think that these numbers are what we should be expecting if Shae is starting next to Dame next season with Jerami and an actual second all star. What this run shows is that when he's called on to score, especially when he's the fourth option, he's going to be able to do it and do it well. The more impressive thing is the way he has been defending first string players. Shaedon is showing that he can be extremely competitive against NBA starters. If you aren't impressed by that, I don't know what to tell you.

Your assertion that we should judge Shaedon on his performance early in the season instead of his performance right now is ludicrous because the guy is developing at such a rapid rate. 19 years old, never saw any game action at the college level and you want us to forget what we're seeing now and over the last month and instead focus on what was going on three or four months ago because that's the real Shaedon?
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Teams are coming in here knowing the Blazers don't want to win. I simply cannot give these games any value and there is no way you are seeing teams coming in here playing hard. They aren't playing to beat the Blazers. They are playing to collect their win and get out of the game without injury.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Doesn't it have Colorado, Arizona, and Tennessee in 3 of the top 4 spots? I agree California has too many teams.
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The combined populations of Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and New York is 500k people more than the population of California... do those states have too many teams? Don't even start doing the math when it comes to combining the populations of Texas and Louisiana or Texas and Oklahoma. California has the right amount of teams. Those California teams are some of the most valuable in the league.

California has well over nine times as many people as Oregon does but only four times as many NBA teams.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Teams are coming in here knowing the Blazers don't want to win. I simply cannot give these games any value and there is no way you are seeing teams coming in here playing hard. They aren't playing to beat the Blazers. They are playing to collect their win and get out of the game without injury.
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So what you are seeing, despite the fact that teams are rolling out their starting lineups against us, is that teams are just letting Shae score because that's just not what I'm seeing. They are doubling him, they are walling him off when he tries to get to the basket... they're competing. If that's not what you are seeing, I guess that's cool and all but we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
blazerkor said:
The combined populations of Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and New York is 500k people more than the population of California... do those states have too many teams? Don't even start doing the math when it comes to combining the populations of Texas and Louisiana or Texas and Oklahoma. California has the right amount of teams. Those California teams are some of the most valuable in the league.

California has well over nine times as many people as Oregon does but only four times as many NBA teams.
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Okay. If you say so. Maybe they could give them another couple teams? San Diego, San Jose, Bakersfield?
 
blazerkor said:
So what you are seeing, despite the fact that teams are rolling out their starting lineups against us, is that teams are just letting Shae score because that's just not what I'm seeing. They are doubling him, they are walling him off when he tries to get to the basket... they're competing. If that's not what you are seeing, I guess that's cool and all but we'll have to agree to disagree.
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I'm as much of a Shaedon Sharpe fan as many. I want him to get better for sure. Yes this is good experience. He is improving for sure. Teams that are immediately 10-15 points ahead and end the game leading from the first minute or two throughout are not playing hard. Anyone who played sports knows if you are rolling through a game you are not playing at the same level.
So yes I'll agree to disagree with you here.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
But it isn't real. They aren't playing real games and there is no actual talent he is playing with. A scrub could go out there and go for 25 a night with a couple dunks if they aren't actually trying to win and teams are not even worried about losing to the team you are playing for. Classic good numbers on a very bad team. Not impressed at all. His averages when playing with real NBA caliber players when the team was trying to win is what you have in Sharpe at this point.
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Cool, don’t watch the games then. No one is making you.

It was more painful watching Dame and the starters lose every night with a broken roster. What were we learning about the team? Nothing.

Instead, I am enjoying watching a promising, developing young player as a tiny dessert after a shit sandwich main course of a season.
 
Samuel said:
Cool, don’t watch the games then. No one is making you.

I, for one, am enjoying watching a promising, developing young player as a tiny dessert after a shit sandwich main course of a season.
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Enjoy.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
But it isn't real. They aren't playing real games and there is no actual talent he is playing with. A scrub could go out there and go for 25 a night with a couple dunks if they aren't actually trying to win and teams are not even worried about losing to the team you are playing for. Classic good numbers on a very bad team. Not impressed at all. His averages when playing with real NBA caliber players when the team was trying to win is what you have in Sharpe at this point.
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So should we discount all of Dame's stats this season?

How about SGA? Thunder are 38-40.

Luka? Mavs are 37-40.

How about Markannen? Jazz are 36-41.

How about Bradley Beal? Wiz are 34-43.

Haliburton? Pacers are 34-44.

Banchero? Magic are 33-44.

But let's look closer, because you said any scrub could go out and put up 25 a night on a team that is not worried about losing.

Who is actively tanking right now? How many of those teams have a guy averaging 25 a night?

Blazers - Dame
Pacers - none
Spurs - none
Wizards - none
Hornets - none
Rockets - none
Pistons - none
Magic - none

The Blazers are the only team with a guy averaging over 25 a night on a tanking team (although technically Dame is done for the rest of the season.)

How about guys averaging over 20 per game?

Blazers - Dame/Grant/Simons
Pacers - Haliburton
Spurs - Keldon Johnson
Wizards - Beal/Porzingis/Kuzma
Hornets - Ball/Rozier/Oubre
Rockets - Green
Pistons - Bogdanovic/Cunningham (19.9)
Magic - Banchero

So it seems like any scrub could put up 20 a night on a bad team, but 25 is a bit harder to pull off. Here are his numbers as a starter over the past six games:
24.3 PPG
46% from the field
43.3% from three
6 rebs
3.5 assists

That's better than any of those dudes but Dame.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Teams are coming in here knowing the Blazers don't want to win. I simply cannot give these games any value and there is no way you are seeing teams coming in here playing hard. They aren't playing to beat the Blazers. They are playing to collect their win and get out of the game without injury.
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Totally disagree. Fox was playing so hard he almost messed his leg or foot up. Sabonis was getting pissed and bringing it against Eubanks. They should be the current roster that's being put out there. Bigtime! But these teams are making their shots. Bringing it. Mike Brown isn't playing his starters in the 4th qtr. if he wasn't worried about something. And teams are defending Sharpe closer now. It's up to Shaedon to put the work in this offseason to take his game where many of us think he can.
 
tykendo said:
Totally disagree. Fox was playing so hard he almost messed his leg or foot up. Sabonis was getting pissed and bringing it against Eubanks. They should be the current roster that's being put out there. Bigtime! But these teams are making their shots. Bringing it. Mike Brown isn't playing his starters in the 4th qtr. if he wasn't worried about something. And teams are defending Sharpe closer now. It's up to Shaedon to put the work in this offseason to take his game where many of us think he can.
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Agreed.
 
I'd also like to point out that the teams that are in playoffs are probably trying to tighten up their rotation a bit and play the minutes they are going to get or just shy of unless they are whoopin a team.
 
tykendo said:
Totally disagree. Fox was playing so hard he almost messed his leg or foot up. Sabonis was getting pissed and bringing it against Eubanks. They should be the current roster that's being put out there. Bigtime! But these teams are making their shots. Bringing it. Mike Brown isn't playing his starters in the 4th qtr. if he wasn't worried about something. And teams are defending Sharpe closer now. It's up to Shaedon to put the work in this offseason to take his game where many of us think he can.
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Well you can call it whatever you want. The Kings beat the Blazers over the last two games by a combined score of over 60 points.
They were never worried and they never were behind. It was never a game.
 
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