OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: AUGUST 2023

[Rastapopoulos]

I mean, I like Reaves better than Herro, quite honestly

 

[andalusian]

I mean, I like Reaves better than Herro, quite honestly

Same. Reeve is a good, fun player. Herro is OK, but Reaves can actually create for other a lot more than Herro, imho.

 

[HailBlazers]

Dame in a faker jersey would be the ultimate gut punch.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Dame in a faker jersey would be the ultimate gut punch.

Wasn't he a Lakers fan?

 

[Natebishop3]

Dame in a faker jersey would be the ultimate gut punch.

At this point it would be so funny how pissed Heat fans would be if Dame goes somewhere else, so I don't even care if it's the Lakers.

 

[Kell]

Moses Brown come on down!

 

[HailBlazers]

Wasn't he a Lakers fan?

All the Kids are Kobe fans.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

34 year old Ed Davis is signing a deal to play in China. I wanted to bring him back to Portland as a backup but that ship has sailed

Davis has been washed for a while, that ship probably sailed in 2019.

 

[riverman]

Davis has been washed for a while, that ship probably sailed in 2019.

I don't believe that but you're welcome to your opinion...he was impressive in his stay with Cleveland. I'd have taken him over Moses Brown who we signed today.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Wow that would be interesting. Might make sense for Disney to pocket the cash and sell ESPN, they have been doing a lot of layoffs with ESPN lately.

Disney is worth $157 billion which might seem enormous to many of you.

But Apple is worth $2,750 billion. (yes 2.75 trillion)

 

[Strenuus]

Wasn't he a Lakers fan?

Dude is from Oakland.

 

[THE HCP]

Dame in a faker jersey would be the ultimate gut punch.

Says who?

 

[THE HCP]

Davis has been washed for a while, that ship probably sailed in 2019.

Oh, compared to our standout crop of big men that past 4 seasons?

 

[Whyachi]

Oh, compared to our standout crop of big men that past 4 seasons?

didn't you hear? It's now Lillard's fault the Blazers stunk. Blame the All-Star PG averaging 30ppg. brilliant

 

[HailBlazers]

Says who?

Reported!

 

[riverman]

Kings signing Skal Labissiere...good luck to Skal!

 

[RR7]

Same. Reeve is a good, fun player. Herro is OK, but Reaves can actually create for other a lot more than Herro, imho.

Herro has had a better Ast% throughout his career. This past year, Reaves had a 15.7% Ast%, and a 14.0 TO%. Herro was at 19.9 and 11.7. Am I missing something?

 

[andalusian]

Herro has had a better Ast% throughout his career. This past year, Reaves had a 15.7% Ast%, and a 14.0 TO%. Herro was at 19.9 and 11.7. Am I missing something?

Yes, herro's assists look mostly like hockey assists, he does not break the defense and creates for others like Reeves as far as I can see, his assists are a result of Miami's system.

 

[Tince]

Can we fine people here for unsubstantiated claims of someone being a liar?

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I have never been a Harden or Morey fan but I think the Sixers and Morey prolly did him a little dirty but we in Blazer land have our own issues so whatever i guess

 

[HansenYang]

I have never been a Harden or Morey fan but I think the Sixers and Morey prolly did him a little dirty but we in Blazer land have our own issues so whatever i guess

I doubt 76ers "did Harden dirty".
I think this is more of a case of over sense of entitlement.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Only reason i say the Sixers might have done Harden dirty is they convinced him to opt in to his deal with the condition they would trade him but to be fair and if true as long as it's before the trade deadline then have they really broken there word ??

Also as much as this soap opera in Philly is mildly interesting but cause of the Dame stuff here hard to care too much about the Sixers.

 

[HansenYang]

Only reason i say the Sixers might have done Harden dirty is they convinced him to opt in to his deal with the condition they would trade him but to be fair and if true as long as it's before the trade deadline then have they really broken there word ??

Also as much as this soap opera in Philly is mildly interesting but cause of the Dame stuff here hard to care too much about the Sixers.

Harden's options were to:

1) Opt out & loose out on $36M guaranteed to be a FA. Given the market conditions, he's likely finding a contract in the $20M range.
or
2) Opt in (guaranteeing the $36M) and try and force a trade.

He choose door #2.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Harden's options were to:

1) Opt out & loose out on $36M guaranteed to be a FA. Given the market conditions, he's likely finding a contract in the $20M range.
or
2) Opt in (guaranteeing the $36M) and try and force a trade.

He choose door #2.

Fred Van Vleet got 40M/yr. Harden would have received more than 20.

 

[Graduate32]

I think the fear is him showing up and playing like every game is in Sacramento.

 

[HansenYang]

Fred Van Vleet got 40M/yr. Harden would have received more than 20.

From whom?

It's easy to say that until you actually dig into what flexibility teams had entering FA.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...cap-entering-2023-free-agency-after-nba-draft

Here are the teams that had cap space:

Houston Rockets ($59.8 million) -> There were a lot of rumors that Harden will land here. I'm guessing a lot of those were coming from Harden's camp trying to get 76ers to offer a max extension. Just before FA, there were rumblings that Rockets were not interested in Harden based on Udoka's recommendations. If the Rockets were interested in Harden - he would have opted out and be a Rocket right now.... They didn't want him (at > $35M/yr).

Utah Jazz ($43.9 million) -> LOL. Can you see Harden in Utah? Besides, Utah agreed to trade for John Collins June 27th (not officially completed until July 7). This trade ate up a large portion of their cap space, so they really only had ~$25M entering FA.

San Antonio Spurs ($37.4 million) -> Harden doesn't fit their timeline.
Indiana Pacers ($32.2 million) -> Harden doesn't fit their timeline.
Detroit Pistons ($27.8 million) -> Harden doesn't fit their timeline.
Orlando Magic ($17.8 million) -> Harden doesn't fit their timeline.

And don't say that a S&T is available. Any team getting Harden via S&T would be Hard Capped at ~$172M in salaries. When someone takes time to review the particulars, there weren't many options open to Harden.

 

[Chris Craig]

JaVale McGee got waived. He would be a good pickup.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Kings signing Skal Labissiere...good luck to Skal!

Always root for him, great guy.

But every time I see this guys name I just think about how he was so hyped the last year or two prior to the draft and even talked about as a possible #1 overall pick. Just shows what a crapshoot the draft can be and banking on a tanking pick can be a massive waste of a season.

 

[RonBrewer]

JaVale McGee got waived. He would be a good pickup.

Agreed

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Fred Van Vleet got 40M/yr. Harden would have received more than 20.

Some rumors that Houston was going to max Harden... then Ime Udoka demanded they get defenders instead, so Harden was left without a chair in free agency.

All the Harden to Houston rumors that were going on for 6 months had to be coming from somewhere. I think Harden just another in a long line of pro athletes that don't understand father time or the market that puts them in.

Dude could've stayed and signed a ~200 million deal in Brooklyn and he screwed that all up so he probably going apeshit now realizing he has no way to ever earn all that money back.