OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: DECEMBER 2023

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Is Ayton hurt?
I feel like the place where Deandre was pressing on when he was on the bench either meant he had some kind of cramping in his quad but more likely some tendonitis in his quadriceps tendon. That'll cause some knee soreness but tendonitis is something a ton of athletes have to play through.
 
Spurs up a couple baskets on the mighty Lakers at halftime.
 
Tyrese played.
Shit! I looked at the box score and thought I saw something, I obviously wasn't reading that correctly. Wow!

It's pretty funny that those two teams got their fourth wins tonight against the two teams that played in the inaugural NBA Cup Championship.
 
Jalen Brunson went 9-9 from downtown, Knicks win.
 
with the Wizards & Spurs big wins tonight, the Blazers are only 2 games back from the #2 draft position.
Such a tough position you have put me in. Do you expect me to just BLATANTLY like that post? My GOD MAN! You want me to enjoy losing! But wait??? I'm supposed to LIKE LOSING this year?
WTF? OKAY Great Post! But I don't have to LIKE it!

Edit--I will put this in GREEN font if you want me to?
 
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Such a tough position you have put me in. Do you expect me to just BLATANTLY like that post? My GOD MAN! You want me to enjoy losing! But wait??? I'm supposed to LIKE LOSING this year?
WTF? OKAY Great Post! But I don't have to LIKE it!
Third year in the lottery and now of an epically weak draft. When do we stop carrying about tanking if not this year? After 8 years of losing?

Not saying we should try to win at all costs or anything. But worrying about our tank standings after 20 games is nuts.
 
Third year in the lottery and now of an epically weak draft. When do we stop carrying about tanking if not this year? After 8 years of losing?

Not saying we should try to win at all costs or anything. But worrying about our tank standings after 20 games is nuts.
I was joking around with him but yes I agree.
 
Such a tough position you have put me in. Do you expect me to just BLATANTLY like that post? My GOD MAN! You want me to enjoy losing! But wait??? I'm supposed to LIKE LOSING this year?
WTF? OKAY Great Post! But I don't have to LIKE it!

Edit--I will put this in GREEN font if you want me to?
I was channeling my inner Casey Holdahl
 
Bucks are an 18 point favorite against Pistons today.
(where's the facepalm emoji on this thing?)
 
Third year in the lottery and now of an epically weak draft. When do we stop carrying about tanking if not this year? After 8 years of losing?

Not saying we should try to win at all costs or anything. But worrying about our tank standings after 20 games is nuts.

there's not much else to root for this season. The development of Sharpe, Scoot, Camara, etc. is about it. People, including yourself, are busy talking about Portland trading Grant & Brogdon, mostly for draft assets as the main prizes. Those would certainly be tanking moves and I'm pretty sure if the trade deadline passes and both Grant and Brogdon are still Blazers, some people here will be irritated

and "8 years of losing"? That's all the way back to the beginning of the Dame/CJ team. The first 4 years of that experiment, Portland was 187-141. Winning record, although I'd certainly agree that those teams were pretenders, at best, and needed, desperately, a new vision and new direction. I said that over and over and the rebuttals were always those 'winning records'...and blahblah-straight years in the playoffs...and the WCF appearance.

the reality is that CJ/RoCo/Nance were traded less than two years ago when Cronin tried to retool instead of rebuild. And Dame/Nurkic were traded 6 months ago when the idea of a retool was shit-canned and a full rebuild begun. This rebuild is practically only in it's 1st year. The only true rebuilding pieces Portland has added from trading CJ/RoCo/Nance/Dame/Nurkic has been Camara and Murray. I consider Ayton a fence-straddling move; and a debatable one at that

so I don't see anything wrong with looking at lottery position when the team is at most, 18 months into a full rebuild and 6 months away from trading the franchise player. I'm not sure what the average length of a successful rebuild is but I'd estimate it's at least 5 seasons. And I think looking at the value of a subtle tank job is warranted when the team has the 5th worst record in the league and is only 1/2 game better than Memphis, with the 4th worst record...and Memphis will be getting Morant back next Tuesday
 
there's not much else to root for this season. The development of Sharpe, Scoot, Camara, etc. is about it. People, including yourself, are busy talking about Portland trading Grant & Brogdon, mostly for draft assets as the main prizes. Those would certainly be tanking moves and I'm pretty sure if the trade deadline passes and both Grant and Brogdon are still Blazers, some people here will be irritated

and "8 years of losing"? That's all the way back to the beginning of the Dame/CJ team. The first 4 years of that experiment, Portland was 187-141. Winning record, although I'd certainly agree that those teams were pretenders, at best, and needed, desperately, a new vision and new direction. I said that over and over and the rebuttals were always those 'winning records'...and blahblah-straight years in the playoffs...and the WCF appearance.

the reality is that CJ/RoCo/Nance were traded less than two years ago when Cronin tried to retool instead of rebuild. And Dame/Nurkic were traded 6 months ago when the idea of a retool was shit-canned and a full rebuild begun. This rebuild is practically only in it's 1st year. The only true rebuilding pieces Portland has added from trading CJ/RoCo/Nance/Dame/Nurkic has been Camara and Murray. I consider Ayton a fence-straddling move; and a debatable one at that

so I don't see anything wrong with looking at lottery position when the team is at most, 18 months into a full rebuild and 6 months away from trading the franchise player. I'm not sure what the average length of a successful rebuild is but I'd estimate it's at least 5 seasons. And I think looking at the value of a subtle tank job is warranted when the team has the 5th worst record in the league and is only 1/2 game better than Memphis, with the 4th worst record...and Memphis will be getting Morant back next Tuesday
I didn't mean the prior 8 years were losing, this is the 3rd year. I question how many years we go on heavily rooting for tank positions, 8 years would be 5 more seasons. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

It was the game by game analysis of our and other lottery team tanking standings this early in the season that shocked me. The last quarter of the season I get it. I just can't fathom following that game by game detail this early.

Of course all Blazers fans can follow the team however they want. That just seems nuts to me.
 
I didn't mean the prior 8 years were losing, this is the 3rd year. I question how many years we go on heavily rooting for tank positions, 8 years would be 5 more seasons. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

It was the game by game analysis of our and other lottery team tanking standings this early in the season that shocked me. The last quarter of the season I get it. I just can't fathom following that game by game detail this early.

Of course all Blazers fans can follow the team however they want. That just seems nuts to me.

ok....sorry...I was looking 8 years in the wrong direction

like I said, Cronin dumped CJ/Nance/Roco/Powell 22 months ago in a shift into a retool, and it failed. Arguably the first adding-transaction of the retool was the Sharpe draft, which coincidentally (wink-wink) fit into a rebuild at the same time. After the retool failure, Cronin had the opportunity to go full-rebuild when trading Dame/Nurkic. I think he still tried to straddle a re-tool fence by keeping Ant and adding Ayton. I think that will fail too

mainly, I think the 'rebuild' has only been going on for 18 months, at most, and more practically 6 months. I think focusing on the first draft after trading the franchise player and looking at lottery position is fine. Yeah, it's too early to be looking at it with any depth. But with the reality that the Blazers might be shopping Grant and Brogdon at the deadlin, at minimum, talking about tanking by mid February might be the big thing again
 
Former Blazer garbage tank time scrub Chance Comanche was arrested by the FBI today...he's currently playing for the Kings G league team...they didn't mention what for
 
I didn't mean the prior 8 years were losing, this is the 3rd year. I question how many years we go on heavily rooting for tank positions, 8 years would be 5 more seasons. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

It was the game by game analysis of our and other lottery team tanking standings this early in the season that shocked me. The last quarter of the season I get it. I just can't fathom following that game by game detail this early.

Of course all Blazers fans can follow the team however they want. That just seems nuts to me.
I think we got 2 more years of losing. By then, Scoot and Sharpe will be All Stars and it will be time to win at a high level with a new coach.
 
I think we got 2 more years of losing. By then, Scoot and Sharpe will be All Stars and it will be time to win at a high level with a new coach.
Interested take saying “New Coach”.
That seems possible but not certain to me?
 
Former Blazer garbage tank time scrub Chance Comanche was arrested by the FBI today...he's currently playing for the Kings G league team...they didn't mention what for
Uh oh... not gonna speculate.
just glad the Jail Blazers era didn't get a reboot.
 
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