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magnifier661 said:
The issue with Smith is he will Sulk if he doesn't get starter minutes. He is poor at decision making and he doesn't have a shot he doesn't like, shooting at a sub 40 clip.

The other issue is Harden and his need for a stretch offense. It's no secrete that Harden has more efficient games when Howard was out because they used shooters to keep defenses to cheat off their man and double Harden.

To me, Harden is a better version of Roy. Roy had trouble when players left their man to take the ball out of Toy's hand. This will be no different with Harden.
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Yeah you're right, he certainly has his warts. Plenty of them. Also you are right about Harden, when Dwight went out he put up MVP numbers and led his team to wins alone. I don't think Harden-Dwight chemistry is all there, I think it's mainly because Dwight has it in his mind that he's Hakeem and demands post up. A lot of us wanted SVG as a coach here because he's the only guy that understood that Dwight at his best is cleaning the glass, blocking shots, and finishing plays not starting them.

As for Josh...it's a risk. He could come in here and ruin things definitely. He's going to put up his shots but this team has a very very defensive mentality. If Dwight misses a guy and gives up a easy layup you can see Harden give him a glare. You can see guys get upset and talk it over whenever easy buckets are given up. Point is, it's going to be very clear to Smith that you come here and you play defense before you play offense and I hope that gets him going.

Fonzthecpt1 said:
If anyone on this forum claims it wasn't a good signing then they are fooling themselves. That's a great player for nothing. I hope it doesn't work out, but I'm not convinced it won't.
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Certainly a chance this can be a dud. Even a chance that it ruins team chemistry for good between Howard-Harden. After all Howard is a lifelong friend of Smith's, was his best man even. If it doesn't work out then hopefully there are no hard feelings any where and everyone moves on.

There is a chance though this is a successful move, that he revitalizes his career ala Z-Bo or lesser extent Rasheed. We really needed a guy that could guard stretch 4s and mobile fours like Blake and LMA and Anthony Davis now. Don't know if Smith can still do that, we sure going to find out since he playing in the west now.
 
Superbeard said:
Yeah you're right, he certainly has his warts. Plenty of them. Also you are right about Harden, when Dwight went out he put up MVP numbers and led his team to wins alone. I don't think Harden-Dwight chemistry is all there, I think it's mainly because Dwight has it in his mind that he's Hakeem and demands post up. A lot of us wanted SVG as a coach here because he's the only guy that understood that Dwight at his best is cleaning the glass, blocking shots, and finishing plays not starting them.

As for Josh...it's a risk. He could come in here and ruin things definitely. He's going to put up his shots but this team has a very very defensive mentality. If Dwight misses a guy and gives up a easy layup you can see Harden give him a glare. You can see guys get upset and talk it over whenever easy buckets are given up. Point is, it's going to be very clear to Smith that you come here and you play defense before you play offense and I hope that gets him going.
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the one thing you do have going for you is Howard's ability to get an offensive board. Teams will cheat off Smith the entire game. They will dare him to shoot. With Howard you know that he can punish teams if you cheat off him. Smith, not so much.
 
This is a high reward, low-risk option for the Rockets imho. There is a good chance they will get better because of that.
 
andalusian said:
This is a high reward, low-risk option for the Rockets imho. There is a good chance they will get better because of that.
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They said the same for Dallas and Rondo. So far Dallas is 1-3 since the Rondo trade.

Houston is deadliest when they are playing scramble ball. Smith isn't the type of player that knows how to play in this system.

Where Smith was at his best was when he was in Atlanta. That's when Atlanta had a highly efficient low pace style of basketball.
 
magnifier661 said:
the one thing you do have going for you is Howard's ability to get an offensive board. Teams will cheat off Smith the entire game. They will dare him to shoot. With Howard you know that he can punish teams if you cheat off him. Smith, not so much.
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Morey brought in another defensive tool with the addition of Josh Smith.
 
I think Terrence Jones is better than Smith when Howard is on the floor. But Jones is out for a while so Smith should help them at the PF spot for sure.

They really transformed their team from a offensive minded team to a defensive minded team.
Beverly, Ariza, Nick Johnson, Dwight, Smith, Brewer..........

Then when the game is on the line, they have Harden for their offense. It will be interesting see how it works out. If they get out and run they will be tough to beat in transition.
 
magnifier661 said:
They said the same for Dallas and Rondo. So far Dallas is 1-3 since the Rondo trade.

Houston is deadliest when they are playing scramble ball. Smith isn't the type of player that knows how to play in this system.

Where Smith was at his best was when he was in Atlanta. That's when Atlanta had a highly efficient low pace style of basketball.
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It's not uncommon for teams to struggle at first when they make a big trade.
 
magnifier661 said:
They said the same for Dallas and Rondo. So far Dallas is 1-3 since the Rondo trade.

Houston is deadliest when they are playing scramble ball. Smith isn't the type of player that knows how to play in this system.

Where Smith was at his best was when he was in Atlanta. That's when Atlanta had a highly efficient low pace style of basketball.
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Big difference, they did not lose anything as Dallas did and smith is not a primary ball handler
 
andalusian said:
Big difference, they did not lose anything as Dallas did and smith is not a primary ball handler
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But oh they will. Smith will be getting roughly 30min a game. That takes out any player they used before. So regardless if they didn't trade a player, they trade minutes from already efficient players.
 
magnifier661 said:
But oh they will. Smith will be getting roughly 30min a game. That takes out any player they used before. So regardless if they didn't trade a player, they trade minutes from already efficient players.
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He'll replace Donatas Motiejunas in the starting lineup.
 
Houston got a talented guy for nothing. I don't like to see that.


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The Warriors lost to the LAKERS! Haha! Sorry dad! Curry is NOT the best PG in the league.
 
magnifier661 said:
But oh they will. Smith will be getting roughly 30min a game. That takes out any player they used before. So regardless if they didn't trade a player, they trade minutes from already efficient players.
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Oh I hope that is true. Both Ariza and Brewer are better at the 3.

With Dwight in the Middle I think they should go smaller not bigger. Smith at the 4 for sure.
They have Brewer listed as a SG (I would put him at the 3) and use Terry at the 2 (Not the Pt)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Oh I hope that is true. Both Ariza and Brewer are better at the 3.

With Dwight in the Middle I think they should go smaller not bigger. Smith at the 4 for sure.
They have Brewer listed as a SG (I would put him at the 3) and use Terry at the 2 (Not the Pt)
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I was just joking. It was a comment by a Houston sports writer
 
magnifier661 said:
But oh they will. Smith will be getting roughly 30min a game. That takes out any player they used before. So regardless if they didn't trade a player, they trade minutes from already efficient players.
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Our back up bigs before this move were Tariq Black and Joey Dorsey.

Motiejunas will not lose much if any time because he plays Pf/C. Who this takes out of the rotation is Black/Dorsey and you could argue if those guys would even be in the NBA.

If Jones comes back then maybe a guy like Motiejunas loses time...but no one knows when Jones is coming back, we don't know IF he's able to come back.
 
Superbeard said:
Our back up bigs before this move were Tariq Black and Joey Dorsey.

Motiejunas will not lose much if any time because he plays Pf/C. Who this takes out of the rotation is Black/Dorsey and you could argue if those guys would even be in the NBA.

If Jones comes back then maybe a guy like Motiejunas loses time...but no one knows when Jones is coming back, we don't know IF he's able to come back.
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And Jones?

Edit... Sorry I skipped through your last paragraph.
 
magnifier661 said:
And Jones?

Edit... Sorry I skipped through your last paragraph.
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This looks like what may be their staring lineup:
5 - Howard
4 - Smith
3 - Ariza
2 - Harden
1 - Beverley

Key bench players:
4/5 - Tarik Black
4 - Donatas Motiejunas
3 - Corey Brewer
2 - Jason Terry
1 - Isaiah Canaan
4/5 - Terence Jones (not sure when he'll come back to play)
 
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