OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: JANUARY 2025

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THE HCP said:
Screw Jimmy Butler. Never have liked him. Leaves franchises left and right. It’s always SOMEBODY else’s fault.
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I was just joking about how their fans and media kept saying that about us and dame, that we had to take their lower offer to do right by him
 
I don’t have a subscription to The Athletic. But was hearing some murmurs today about an article Quick wrote about Ant. Was surprised not to see a mention of it here.
 
RR7 said:
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Ouch. Riley is not to be fucked with. Next is arbitration like NOP did with AD. The league forced them to play AD.

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SGA just broke Josh Hart’s ankles. Must see tv. Watching OKC is something else.
 
Will GS part with Jonathan Kuminga for Butler? GS is desperate. Steph is 36 and Draymond is 34 and they need a big power move if they want to be contenders again.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Ill say that I can actually stand how Simons has been playing for the last ~10 games or so.

It feels like he is FINALLY playing within the flow of the game.

That said, he's a major reason why the Blazers have been loosing so badly the lst few years
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I think his funk has more to do with the burden of being the #1 on this team when he should be a 6th man on a contender.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Ill say that I can actually stand how Simons has been playing for the last ~10 games or so.

It feels like he is FINALLY playing within the flow of the game.

That said, he's a major reason why the Blazers have been loosing so badly the lst few years
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defensive rating (team 118.1):

Robert Williams 111
Donovan Clingan 112
Deandre Ayton 115
Dalano Banton 116
Jabari Walker 117
Deni Avdija 117
Toumani Camara 118
Scoot Henderson 119
Kris Murray 120
Jerami Grant 120
Rayan Rupert 121
Shaedon Sharpe 121
Anfernee Simons 122

DBPM:

Robert Williams 2.4
Donovan Clingan 0.6
Dalano Banton -0.4
Deni Avdija -0.4
Toumani Camara -0.5
Kris Murray -1.0
Jerami Grant -1.3
Deandre Ayton -1.3
Jabari Walker -1.4
Scoot Henderson -1.5
Rayan Rupert -1.7
Shaedon Sharpe -2.4
Anfernee Simons -2.4

Simons has a net rating of -13.0 and a BPM of -2.0. He has generally been a net negative; his good offense has never really been enough to offset his bad defense
 
wizenheimer said:
Simons has a net rating of -13.0 and a BPM of -2.0. He has generally been a net negative; his good offense has never really been enough to offset his bad defense
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Completely agree with this statement....

My point was that he has made strides this season to be less 'ball-hoggy'.

Previously, his time on the court was just torcherous to me. A bad player who thinks they are much better than they are.

The last few games he looks like he's at least TRYING on defense and TRYING to fit in with the flow on offense.

Definitely a net negative player still... but he's making progress.
 
wizenheimer said:
defensive rating (team 118.1):

Robert Williams 111
Donovan Clingan 112
Deandre Ayton 115
Dalano Banton 116
Jabari Walker 117
Deni Avdija 117
Toumani Camara 118
Scoot Henderson 119
Kris Murray 120
Jerami Grant 120
Rayan Rupert 121
Shaedon Sharpe 121
Anfernee Simons 122
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Defensive rating shows Ayton is clearly a superior defender to Camara.

This shows how worthless these stats are and nothing about those players defense.

These ratings as a whole look about as random and irrelevant as throwing darts at a board - except generally taller players have lower numbers and short ones have higher numbers.

Maybe we should try playing Timelord at PG.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Defensive rating shows Ayton is clearly a superior defender to Camara.

This shows how worthless these stats are and nothing about those players defense.

These ratings as a whole look about as random and irrelevant as throwing darts at a board - except generally taller players have lower numbers and short ones have higher numbers.

Maybe we should try playing Timelord at PG.
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the defensive rating stat, and defensive stats in general, skew in favor big men; interior players. That's well known. That's one reason why I added DBPM which ranks Ayton a lot lower than his defensive rating. And it's accurate to say there is usually a lot of noise in defensive metrics

I'm also looking at the on/off for opponent's offensive rating when individual players are on/off the floor (lower is better). It confirms that Clingan -5.2, and Camara -3.1, are positive impact defenders; and that Simons +3.2, and Ayton +3.7, are negative impact defenders. Avdija fans won't like the stat because he's at +7.5 while Banton is -6.3

but we know rotations nave a big impact on a lot of these 'advanced' stats

we also know that earlier in the season, the Blazers hit their high water mark for defensive rating when they ranked either 12th or 13th. IIRC this may have been around the time Ayton missed 7 straight games and Simons missed 3 or 4; but maybe it was during or even before, and not after. But now, Portland ranks 27th in defensive rating (and 27th in offensive rating). And, 28th in net rating

the thing about Simons and defensive stats (which match the eyeball test), is that it's not just this season. Last season he was last among rotation players in def rating and DBPM; and the team's defensive rating was 6.8 points worse when he was on the floor. In 2022-23, same thing; he was the worst on the team in def rating and DBPM. Basically, since he's been the full time starter the last 3 years, he's been the worst on the team at defense. It's kind of baffling that he's pretty quick and instictive with the ball on one end of the floor; and is so slow in reactions and instincts on the other end of the floor
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Completely agree with this statement....

My point was that he has made strides this season to be less 'ball-hoggy'.

Previously, his time on the court was just torcherous to me. A bad player who thinks they are much better than they are.

The last few games he looks like he's at least TRYING on defense and TRYING to fit in with the flow on offense.

Definitely a net negative player still... but he's making progress.
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to that point: his usage rate is lower than the last 2 seasons. But his assist rate is lower this season while his turnover rate is at a career high

* this season his average seconds/touch is 4.54 and his average dribbles/touch is 4.09
* last season his average seconds/touch is 5.14 and his average dribbles/touch is 4.82

so yeah, he appears to be ball-hogging less this season. But his PER, TS%, winshares/48, and BPM are all at the lowest marks since he became a starter 4 years ago. So maybe his good performances depend on him dominating the ball and operating in hooplock mode
 
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