OFFICIAL Around The NBA Thread- December 2020

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handiman said:
Harden's $50k fine is significant despite its insignificance relative to his overall income, being, I believe, the most the NBA can fine a player without him being eligible for arbitration.
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The fine that hurts is that he's missing game checks and they still haven't decided if he'll be able to play against us Saturday.
 
If you haven't seen this it sucks to watch but it's really important.
 
THE HCP said:
He won't be missing any game checks.
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They already said that he missed this first game check. He is being penalized for not following the protocols.

"At this time it's still unclear when Harden will be cleared to play. The Rockets are waiting to hear from the league on how long he will have to quarantine. Harden will lose forfeit $573,000 per game for any contests he ends up missing, according to Jeff Zillgitt of USA Today..."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...iolating-leagues-health-and-safety-protocols/

Three paragraphs down.
 
AldoTrapani said:
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That is something that was completely glossed over in the trade. Ariza was likely the better on-ball defender and Covington the superior help defender in a team defense.

The problem is, this team's defensive scheme as a team is either non-existant or completely clownish. So that lessons his impact. Add to that, we gave up two first round Draft picks. I think RoCo is better overall than Ariza, but since you took away one to add the other, the gain (other than youth) seems minimal.
 
AldoTrapani said:
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After ONE GAME this asshole is gonna act like he's some kind of basketball savante. Nurk is getting his legs. Dame had a bad game. He doesn't have many of those. I agree on Roco, and Jones Jr' isn't a starting caliber player yet. But it's WAYYYY TOO EARLY to be throwing shade at a team.
 
tykendo said:
After ONE GAME this asshole is gonna act like he's some kind of basketball savante. Nurk is getting his legs. Dame had a bad game. He doesn't have many of those. I agree on Roco, and Jones Jr' isn't a starting caliber player yet. But it's WAYYYY TOO EARLY to be throwing shade at a team.
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With some of these players, and the coaching tendencies, the 'shade' may be carry over from last year,
....and the year before,
....and the year before....
 
Another thing. Lakers lost to a dysfunctional Clitters team. So i guess it's all over for them too.
 
tykendo said:
Another thing. Lakers lost to a dysfunctional Clitters team. So i guess it's all over for them too.
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At least the Clippers are a good dysfunctional team....and the Lakers weren't down by 30 before the 4th quarter.
 
TBpup said:
That is something that was completely glossed over in the trade. Ariza was likely the better on-ball defender and Covington the superior help defender in a team defense.

The problem is, this team's defensive scheme as a team is either non-existant or completely clownish. So that lessons his impact. Add to that, we gave up two first round Draft picks. I think RoCo is better overall than Ariza, but since you took away one to add the other, the gain (other than youth) seems minimal.
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I had the same concerns, as well as the similar-player swap being a move from SF to PF, making match-ups even tougher. Olshey has this weird obsession with duplicating players (Dame/CJ, Aminu/Harkless, PhysEd/Plums, RoCo/DJJ), and creating roster imbalances where they almost have to be played together. Covington needs to be our starting SF, following up on what worked well with Ariza last year. Jones coming off the bench is good energy, even if it doesn't maximize our starting talent.
 
blazerkor said:
They already said that he missed this first game check. He is being penalized for not following the protocols.

"At this time it's still unclear when Harden will be cleared to play. The Rockets are waiting to hear from the league on how long he will have to quarantine. Harden will lose forfeit $573,000 per game for any contests he ends up missing, according to Jeff Zillgitt of USA Today..."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...iolating-leagues-health-and-safety-protocols/

Three paragraphs down.
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Nice find, I stand corrected. Maybe because he broke league protocol? I’m sure if any player actually gets sick, they won’t be holding their check though right?
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...ould-foreshadow-challenges-to-this-nba-season

How The Rockets-Thunder Delay Could Foreshadow Challenges To This NBA Season
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In this article towards the end Adam Silver says, "I think we wouldn't be acting responsibly and I wouldn't be acting responsibly if I said it's full steam ahead no matter what." That's fucking laughable because they aren't acting responsible right now. With false negatives being a small but relevant reality... playing any contact sport let alone an indoor one with players of an age group and a propensity to be ultra healthy and therefore asymptomatic, that are very active in their communities, how could you be conducting yourself responsibly and not just look like you're looking out for your own financial viability at the potential cost of lives in the general public and older generation of NBA personnel?

I'm glad that people like @THE HCP have work again but I think sports are a luxury to society that might be best sidelined until after populations achieve heard immunity through vaccination. It's really fucking stupid that sports have returned even some with live attendance while gig entertainment i.e. music concerts, plays and comedy (both stand up and improv groups) have been relegated to illegality. I am for safety first everywhere but I have a family member who is much more casual with his attitude towards this extremely deadly virus. While I think he's a fool for his attitude he has his right to it but made a very salient observation when pointing out how the government has been completely unconstitutional with the selective way in which they have chosen to shut down peoples rights in the interest of public health.
 
THE HCP said:
Nice find, I stand corrected. Maybe because he broke league protocol? I’m sure if any player actually gets sick, they won’t be holding their check though right?
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That's totally right. If they can't prove like they did with Harden that the player has broken protocol that player gets paid completely while out for games due to quarantine. The protocol is just to mitigate. The league realizes that those protocols are the league's rules and are in no way going to stop spread even when followed perfectly.
 
Im not a Kings fan, but they will be the surprise team in the west. That team is very deep!
 
THE HCP said:
Nice find, I stand corrected. Maybe because he broke league protocol? I’m sure if any player actually gets sick, they won’t be holding their check though right?
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No, you were not wrong. I just heard Adam Silver on ESPN say that Harden was not missing a game check since the game was postponed.
 
tlongII said:
No, you were not wrong. I just heard Adam Silver on ESPN say that Harden was not missing a game check since the game was postponed.
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Yeah but the fact remains that if the league would have held Harden out of a game that was played or any player this season for verifiably breaking protocol, they are going to withhold that players game check just like they do for any suspension do to violation of league rules. That's my understanding anyway. I think that the league is giving Harden some superstar treatment clearing him for the game against us and therefore making sure they only fine him $50k.
 
THE HCP said:
Math nerd alert........ what is 50,000k to him? Would that be like a $2 fine for us?
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You rang? (it's 50k, not 50,000k, btw)

It is sensible to compare lifetime salaries rather than annual salaries because ballplayers earn most of the money in a compressed time frame.
The average American apparently makes $2.7 mil over their lifetime. If James Harden makes $500 mil over his lifetime (including endorsements), then
x/50k = 2.7 mil/500 mil => $270

However, this is overstating it because of disposable income. More realistic might be
x/50k = .5 mil/495 mil => $50

The average cost of a speeding ticket is $150.

So, it's not nothing, it's VERY ROUGHLY a third of a speeding ticket.
 
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