OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA THREAD - June 2021

[maxiep]

Sure you do

He was going for the ball. The contact with the nose was inadvertent. There is NO way you make that call. Intention is a huge part of flagrant fouls.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm sorry, but you don't call that a flagrant 2 on Jokic when elimination is on the line.

Why not? Was a dirty play and might have broken dude's nose.

Game and situation are irrelevant

 

[DDolla]

If that was Lebron, technical on Payne for sticking his nose and a 25k fined

 

[Chris Craig]

He was going for the ball. The contact with the nose was inadvertent. There is NO way you make that call. Intention is a huge part of flagrant fouls.

Yeah, I saw a replay. Wasn't going for the face, but he got his nose so

 

[maxiep]

Ask yourself, if that was Dame was the one making that call in the 2nd round down 3-0, do people think Dame would have warranted an ejection?

 

[Chris Craig]

Ask yourself, if that was Dame was the one making that call in the 2nd round down 3-0, do people think Dame would have warranted an ejection?

No

 

[maxiep]

Yeah, I saw a replay. Wasn't going for the face, but he got his nose so

So what?

 

[illmatic99]

He was going for the ball. The contact with the nose was inadvertent. There is NO way you make that call. Intention is a huge part of flagrant fouls.

First off all, the rulebook literally says intent is meaningless.

Second, you dont wind up like that if you want to make a bball play

 

[Chris Craig]

So what?

He got his face. That's a flagrant....a flagrant 1 anyway

 

[illmatic99]

Ask yourself, if that was Dame was the one making that call in the 2nd round down 3-0, do people think Dame would have warranted an ejection?

Dame is not an idiot

 

[maxiep]

First off all, the rulebook literally says intent is meaningless.

Second, you dont wind up like that if you want to make a bball play

My bad about intent. I just re-read the rule.

That being said, the dude is an eclipse. A windup coming from Patty Mills doesn't get that call.

 

[ehizzy3]

That was a clear flagrant 2 imo

 

[maxiep]

He got his face. That's a flagrant....a flagrant 1 anyway

Flagrant 1 is fine and makes the point. Flagrant 2 is excessive and decides the game (and in this case, series).

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[maxiep]

Dame is not an idiot

Dame has committed flagrant fouls in the past. Is every player who slaps at the ball and makes inadvertent contact an idiot? Okay, then.

 

[illmatic99]

My bad about intent. I just re-read the rule.

That being said, the dude is an eclipse. A windup coming from Patty Mills doesn't get that call.

What you're asking for from the refs is nuance. But they went by the letter of the law. Unnessary and excessive.

And dirty.

Denver wasnt winning this game either way.

 

[ehizzy3]

Dame has committed flagrant fouls in the past. Is every player who slaps at the ball and makes inadvertent contact an idiot? Okay, then.

that was not a slap lol

 

[maxiep]

I'm rooting hard for Phoenix in this series, but there is no way as an official you make that kind of call in that situation.

 

[wizenheimer]

I was really surprised they called a flagrant 2 on Jokic, but by rule, it fit every aspect of a flagrant...windup --> swing --> contact --> follow thru. I thought the officials were taking so long to make the ruling they were figuring out how to not call flagrant 1. But wow...ejection

 

[maxiep]

that was not a slap lol

Open hand coming down on the ball. By definition, a slap.

 

[illmatic99]

Dame has committed flagrant fouls in the past. Is every player who slaps at the ball and makes inadvertent contact an idiot? Okay, then.

We're talking about Dame. Not CJ. Dame would not take out his frustrations against a scrub bench player 8 inches shorter than him just cuz he didnt get a call.

Also fyi. Dame has not committed a single flagrant foul in his career

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If the Nugs come back and win this means the Nugs should trade Jokic.

 

[maxiep]

By everyone's definitiion of what constitutes a Flagrant 2, Zach Collins and Hassan Whiteside should never have finished a game.

 

[maxiep]

We're talking about Dame. Not CJ. Dame would not take out his frustrations against a scrub bench player 8 inches shorter than him just cuz he didnt get a call.

Also fyi. Dame has not committed a single flagrant foul in his career

Really? I recall Dame two seasons ago wrapping a guy up on a dunk attempt and getting a Flagrant 1.

 

[illmatic99]

Really? I recall Dame two seasons ago wrapping a guy up on a dunk attempt and getting a Flagrant 1.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6606/damian-lillard

Scroll to misc stats

 

[maxiep]

We're talking about Dame. Not CJ. Dame would not take out his frustrations against a scrub bench player 8 inches shorter than him just cuz he didnt get a call.

Also fyi. Dame has not committed a single flagrant foul in his career

Don't change the debate because you're losing. If that call in that situation would have been made against Dame, you would be f***ing HOWLING.

 

[illmatic99]

Don't change the debate because you're losing. If that call in that situation would have been made against Dame, you would be f***ing HOWLING.

Not sure I'm the one in the wrong. You're the one getting facts wrong.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If the Nugs come back and win this means the Nugs should trade Jokic.

Jokic has played in every playoff game the Nugs have lost the year. Clearly he's the problem.

We should sign and trade Collins for the Joker.

 

[maxiep]

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6606/damian-lillard

Scroll to misc stats

Cool. I misremembered. My point still stands.

 

[maxiep]

Not sure I'm the one in the wrong. You're the one getting facts wrong.

So, if Dame committed that foul, you would agree he should be tossed in that game? You would be defending the refs? Mkay.

You're lying.

I've seen you post for years. You would be screaming.