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But if the coach says “I want player A because I feel he works best for my system” what GM would say no? The GM and the coach BOTH have to be on the same page. Look at Vancouver’s roster when AV was there. Looks very similar to what we have here now. This reeks of an incompetent coach and a GM that refused to force AV to fire his butt buddy Arneil who keeps destroying the PP. I’m fine with both being gone.

What player or players are you referring to? The core of this team is basically the same.
 
Hiring Lindy Ruff was a huge mistake too. What was the point of hiring him? You need to bring in young, motivated guys and not old farts like Ruff.
 
Is what it is this year, if they end up with a high pick that could be a blessing. Then alot of this dead weight will be gone, maybe a few dealt during the year for picks. Build around Shatt, Skjei, McD, Buch, Vesey, Zib, Miller and and CK.
 
McD is garbage. I've had it with him. No way you keep him cause he will want a huge contract. You already committed to that trash Shatt.
 
Yeah McD may be gone, plus there's a bunch of guys in the pipeline.
 
Hank needs to change the way he plays a little. His reflexes aren't the same. He needs to play out of the net more. He's letting in too many crap goals. I have no issues trading McDonagh. He'll bring back a ton. Kreider can go as well. Sick of his ass.
 
Hank was an extraordinary talent when he came on the scene over a decade ago and while he would frequently give up a bad angle goal early in the game he would then become extremely focused and almost impossible to score on. Hank didn't make any effort to work on his technical game regarding proper positioning to avoid letting in these shots that every NHL opponent knew he was susceptible to missing. Hank also made no effort to improve his stick handling so debacles like last night's goal were commonplace. Now years later Hank's laziness has come back to bite him, after posting the worst numbers of his career last year things are not looking any better this year. I think the defensemen can certainly do a better job clearing the juicy rebounds Hank continues to give up but these almost daily soft goals are back breakers.
 
It's a broken record but you can't be down 1-0 or 2-0 early every single game. Especially, on home ice where it takes the crowd out of the game and allows the other team to sit back and clog the zone.
 
I remember my bro in 2005 telling me that they got this guy Lundqvist that is suppose to be good (As opposed to Kevin Weekes). He’s been good a long time but is no longer elite. He needs solid defense or a lot of offense. No in between because he’s past his prime
 
Personally, I'm excited for a partial rebuild. Moving on from Hank will come in a couple of years. Kreider will bring back a top 10 pick and a good prospect like Stepan did. McDonagh will bring back a top 5 pick and a good prospect. The Rangers rebuild will be quick and effective with the right picks and prospects coming back. If they trade off McDonagh and Kreider now they could conceivably have three top 10 picks in this years draft
 
I think Lundqvists play right now is a combo of his typical slow start plus what's going on in front of him. I think if the team gets on track a little he will get going too. But there's no question we're seeing a slow decline in his reflexes.
 
Personally, I'm excited for a partial rebuild. Moving on from Hank will come in a couple of years. Kreider will bring back a top 10 pick and a good prospect like Stepan did. McDonagh will bring back a top 5 pick and a good prospect. The Rangers rebuild will be quick and effective with the right picks and prospects coming back. If they trade off McDonagh and Kreider now they could conceivably have three top 10 picks in this years draft


i can't help but rain on your parade but what 2 bottom 10 teams are going to trade their LOTTERY pick for mcd or krieder? please i would love to know. oh not to mention a good prospect too? mcd who is going to be entering his walk year? which btw isn't really enticing way to keep the guy if your a bottom 10 team. o and hes going to be 29 lol keep dreaming

i can see the conversation right now "hey i know we are a bottom 10 team but i really think we should be trading away our lotto first round pick for mcd. hes only 28! and we will have him for two years!"
 
Hey dumbass. You know nothing about hockey. You sucked off Lou for 8 years when he was senile. Not one person here has any respect for anything you think about hockey. If you had an ounce of brains you would know this is not a legendary draft. It's an OK draft. Rangers can easily rebuild. The reason is because they didn't have all shit players like the Devils on bad contracts that never made the playoffs. The players on this team have won tons of playoff games. For the most part they have good contracts. McDonagh is on a great contract. Kreider has a good contract. Why you even bother to come to this board is sad. You probably think your shit team will end up with a good record when in reality, you will suck as usual. Other than the moron from the Penguins who posted on ESPN for years and Reggiet. You might be the dumbest fuck most of us have seen on hockey. Stop talking with your classified brain that is the size of a pea.

To prove you know nothing about hockey. Kreider in the eyes of other teams has more value than Stepan you moron. He's impossible to move in front of the net. Speed is coveted by all teams. He's on a much better contract than Stepan. He's coming off a 28 goal year. Stepan brought back the 7th pick in the draft which was a draft that was higher rated than this one. If you had any clue on this sport you would know this. However, you're retarded on this sport so you don't.
 
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If they can snag a mid-2nd and solid prospect for Nash, and maybe Grabner or Zucc bring back something that might work if they're out of it by Jan. I would look into maybe dealing Hayes as well.
 
I swear, Devils fans are dumb as dog shit on hockey. You know how many players the Rangers have that are coveted by other teams? A shit load. Buffalo would probably offer Reinhart, their number 1 and a prospect for McDonagh. I would say Montreal would offer up right now their number 1 pick for Kreider, their favorite. Montreal has Price. They aren't rebuilding. They need to win now. Montreal doesn't accept these kind of seasons. So would Vancouver. So would Detroit. So would Buffalo. So would Colorado. If it was a legendary draft, then no. It's not. It's a draft where scouting will be key with the first round picks. What's funny about how fucking dumb NJCup is. They offered the 9th pick in the draft for a fucking career backup in Schneider. Sadly, he's too stupid to see this. That pick was Bo Horvat who is on his way to being a number 1 center. Schneider is an average, injury prone goalie.
 
Haha DDD! That dude annoyed the crap out of everyone. Reggiet was stupid.
 
I swear, Devils fans are dumb as dog shit on hockey. You know how many players the Rangers have that are coveted by other teams? A shit load. Buffalo would probably offer Reinhart, their number 1 and a prospect for McDonagh. I would say Montreal would offer up right now their number 1 pick for Kreider, their favorite. Montreal has Price. They aren't rebuilding. They need to win now. Montreal doesn't accept these kind of seasons. So would Vancouver. So would Detroit. So would Buffalo. So would Colorado. If it was a legendary draft, then no. It's not. It's a draft where scouting will be key with the first round picks. What's funny about how fucking dumb NJCup is. They offered the 9th pick in the draft for a fucking career backup in Schneider. Sadly, he's too stupid to see this. That pick was Bo Horvat who is on his way to being a number 1 center. Schneider is an average, injury prone goalie.

Lol so much fail I don’t know where to begin I’ll try though

So your goal is to sell off pieces in an ok draft year to make quicker your “rebuild on the fly”? Uhhh ok

Then you talk up those players saying how good they are (not just Krider and Mcd) but in general are better. You do realize that will keep them from being really bad and getting a better draft spot. As bad as the devils were the past few years they weren’t even last in the nhl and had to win the lotto to move up. So there goes your logic on “tanking” since the rangers are so much better esp cause they won playoff games? Ok.

I agree mcd is on a good contract but he has one year left after this season lol. Yeah I’m sure teams are going to be lining up to toss the world at you for one year. Buffalo is going to give up their first (which will be a top 10) Reinhardt annnnd a prospect? To have mcd there for a year before he hits ufa? Lol

I agree Montreal might be interested but guess what they aren’t a bottom 10 team! Great get their first round pick it won’t be top 10 like you claim lol. But Colorado and Vancouver coming off amazingly bad seasons are going to say yeah we need that playoff performer to bring us from 30th worse to 16?!?!? Hahahahahaha

I agree the Cory trade was bad but guess what that wasn’t Shero

Congrats on Stepan annnnnnnnd ranta for the 7th. So what else are you giving up with krieder for a top 10 pick in a meh draft?

Any day I can help you get smarter hockey wise I’m more then happy to do it.

I would be more interested in shopping lundqvist which you probably think they can get drastail and the oilers first for hahahaha

Btw is Anderson even playing in the nhl or is he in euro or ahl? I mean if this draft is meh compared to last year then I doubt you will see any of these top 10 picks you think your getting playing next year either right? So much for that rebuild on the fly.
 
Great move starting Pavelec
AV has lost this team. I don’t care what anyone says, they don’t want to play for him. I feel like I’m watching women’s hockey with how many Rangers are avoiding checking and have all taken a page out of pussy Staal’s playbook with the weak ass poke check instead of playing the body. The fact that AV and Gorton both have a job still, yes even though it’s this early in the season, tells me that they will be here the entire year. Here’s hoping we suck enough to get a high pick and not the usual higher bullshit spot.
 
I'm not sure what purpose firing Gorton would serve at the moment. The usual emotional fan response of fire and trade everyone tomorrow isn't realistic or helpful.
 

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