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After having some NCAA ball conversations with guys like MickZagger, VanillaGorilla, and RunBJM in the draft thread, I figured I'd start a thread about college ball in the OT.

Every time I post about NCAA ball about in the NCAA forum or the random thoughts thread, it falls of deaf ears.

I figured a thread about the NCAA game on the Blazers OT forum is long overdue. No emphasis on NBA potential, just some straight-up NCAA basketball discussion.
 
Nice to see Florida go down. Maybe my Zags can bump up a little bit.

Great game between Michigan/OSU. Craft vs. Burke was fun to watch. Good no call at the end. Burke is good, as I said before, he reminds me a lot of DJ Augustine.
 
Nice to see Florida go down. Maybe my Zags can bump up a little bit.

Great game between Michigan/OSU. Craft vs. Burke was fun to watch. Good no call at the end. Burke is good, as I said before, he reminds me a lot of DJ Augustine.

You know, I'm perfectly okay with that no-call as well. I've heard a lot of people bitch about it, but the way the game was being officiated, that might not have even been called in regulation. Different conferences play different styles, and in the Big Ten, they usually allow for a little more physical contact, hence the low scoring games. If they were going by the letter of the law, then Craft would have been called for a flagrant against Glenn Robinson III. It was technically a flagrant, but the refs let it slide because it was incidental and they didn't want it to determine the outcome of a great, tightly contest game, just like on Craft's last drive to the basket.

This is really the best time to be a college basketball fan though, in the thick of conference play. After watching the Minnesota/Mich St. game tonight, I saw that there were only two games on afterwards - Kansas/TCU and Iowa/Wisconsin. Both games looked like boring games on paper, not worth watching, but I wound up watching a top 5 upset (first in TCU's history) and a 2OT game in Madison.

I don't get how there are NBA fans that don't like NCAA ball, much less put it down.
 
I haven't watched Minnesota much. What is that team all about? Fill me in.

Kansas loses another one, its going to interesting this year seeing who deserves a 1 seed and who gets looked over.
 
You 2 might as well get a room and jerk each other off! #havefun
 
I haven't watched Minnesota much. What is that team all about? Fill me in.

Kansas loses another one, its going to interesting this year seeing who deserves a 1 seed and who gets looked over.

I'm really impressed with Minnesota. Tubby's always had the pieces there, but they've always had something standing in the way of them really breaking out. I remember a few seasons ago, I wrote something in the preseason, either for s2 or another site, about how I thought they were a Final Four caliber team, but then Royce White got arrested, Mbakwe got hurt, Nolen got suspended, and Rodney Williams hit a wall.

As for this year's team, Trevor Mbakwe isn't a real offensive threat, but he's your prototypical Big Ten enforcer, ala Reggie Evans or Aloysius Anagonye. Rodney Williams is still more of an athlete than a basketball player, but he's still able to make plays that no one else in the Big Ten has the ability to make. The real pulse of the team comes from the backcourt though, with the Hollins'.

Dre Hollins and Austin Hollins (the son of Grizz coach Lionel Hollins) are both from Memphis, and strangely enough, they're not related, despite the fact that Dre looks more like he's Lionel's kid than Austin does.

Dre's your prototypical high-scoring guard that can put the team on his back. He's one of those guys, like Dee Brown was, that will have a hand in his face all night and hit the important shots. You can look at the stats and say that he's only getting 14 ppg, but that's largely due to the low-scoring Big 10 style of play. When you get 20 points and your team only puts up 44 points, that's saying something.

Long story short, I think Minnesota finally has all of the talent to make a run in March. I think there are a lot of paper tigers in the rankings right now, but I don't think Minnesota is one of them, despite the loss tonight. They have the potential to be that dangerous 4-6 seed that winds up making a deep run in March, after being battle tested with their regular season schedule.
 
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I don't get how you can be into basketball and not watch college ball...

I like it man, I'm just so busy working and traveling I don't have the time. NBA LeaguePass and movies on my MacBook is all I have time for.
 
A near-half court buzzer-beater heave to force an OT win against a top 5 team, a bubble team knocking off another top five team in a rivalry game at home, and a 5 OT game between two top 25 teams... that was the day in college basketball.

...but forget that, the Jazz were upset by the Kings in the game of the night in the NBA world!
 
Miami might be the best team in the country right now Voodoo. They're stacked and play great defense. Former Zag recruit Kenny Kadji is looking like an NBA guy. Shane Larkin's a steady point. They have options.

Larranaga's done a damn good job with that program.
 
Miami might be the best team in the country right now Voodoo. They're stacked and play great defense. Former Zag recruit Kenny Kadji is looking like an NBA guy. Shane Larkin's a steady point. They have options.

Larranaga's done a damn good job with that program.

I like what Miami's doing. More than anything, they have a lot of experience, which is always undervalued in the "1-and-done" times that we're living in. The only player in their rotation that's not a junior, senior, or 5th year (Kadji/McKinney-Jones) is Larkin, and even he's at least played a season of NCAA ball.
 
Most of my NCAA thoughts right now are where (or maybe I should say if) the Ducks will be seeded. With the 3 game skid I think they are out of the West region and also out of a top 8 seed. After getting stiffed last year I think they will get some love this year as they have proven to the NCAA they are for real.
 
Voodoo,

My Zags are looking more and more like a 1 seed.
 
Roy Williams on the hot seat if you UNC doesn't make the tourney again?
 
Couldn't get a fugging link to see UCLA-Cal or Gonzaga-St. Mary's last night.
 
Roy Williams on the hot seat if you UNC doesn't make the tourney again?

Doubtful. UNC won the ACC the past two years and made it to the sweet 16 as well. Not to mention Roy's brought two championships to the school.

The loss to Dook was tough but I think it was a turning point. Carolina came within a few free throws of beating Dook at Cameron.

They'll make the tournament.
 
Did anyone see my Vols destroy Kentucky? Trae Golden had 24 points on 6/8 shooter with 8 assists and no turnovers. Tennessee will be dangerous next year, if not this one.
 
Yeah I watched a lot of that game. Kentucky got blitzed and they look completely lost. This is the downside of relying on freshman. Sometimes you can get incredibly advanced and intelligent guys who can mentally keep up with Jrs and Srs (MKG, A. Davis, D. Rose). Sometimes you get freshman who will be overwhelmed and confused in adverse situations. They're still very talented but closer to the talent level of the opposition, and with much less savvy.
 
I watched the tail end of that game and Kentucky does not look like a tournament team. Which is mind boggling since they have like 4 or 5 first round picks on that team.
 
I hate how neither of you said anything about Tennessee. We're gonna be good!
 
Man, the refs are really taking this one away from Mizzou. Some very questionable calls down the stretch...
 
Tennessee made the Elite Eight in 2010. Lofton graduated in 2008.

It sucks what happened to UT after Pearl left the program in shambles. Martin's done a hell of a job at picking up the pieces though. They're definitely one of those teams that's better than their record, like Illinois or Baylor.

I like their core, but I think Martin plays the bench guys more than he should... they really don't have that kind of depth. McBee's a good story, and he's a fan favorite, but I don't know if I'd have him out there as much as they do. When you look around the SEC (or the NCAA) for that matter, Stokes-Golden-McRae-Richardson is one of the best cores out there, and they'll all be coming back next season (unless Stokes goes pro). Add Robert Hubbs into the mix, and they are easily a team that can challenge UK and Florida for the SEC title next season.
 
It sucks what happened to UT after Pearl left the program in shambles. Martin's done a hell of a job at picking up the pieces though. They're definitely one of those teams that's better than their record, like Illinois or Baylor.

I like their core, but I think Martin plays the bench guys more than he should... they really don't have that kind of depth. McBee's a good story, and he's a fan favorite, but I don't know if I'd have him out there as much as they do. When you look around the SEC (or the NCAA) for that matter, Stokes-Golden-McRae-Richardson is one of the best cores out there, and they'll all be coming back next season (unless Stokes goes pro). Add Robert Hubbs into the mix, and they are easily a team that can challenge UK and Florida for the SEC title next season.

They've also got a few freshmen that show promise. Armani Moore worked his way into the starting lineup and has been a great role player. I definitely agree with Martin playing the bench too much, but overall I'm extremely happy with their progress. It was a while ago but last I heard Stokes promised he was going to stay 4 years. A lot of guys say that, but I think Stokes is different from most guys. We've got a 5 star SG recruit in Robert Hubbs, he'll bolster our bench's firepower. I'm calling it right now, the Vols will be SEC champs next year.
 
They've also got a few freshmen that show promise. Armani Moore worked his way into the starting lineup and has been a great role player. I definitely agree with Martin playing the bench too much, but overall I'm extremely happy with their progress. It was a while ago but last I heard Stokes promised he was going to stay 4 years. A lot of guys say that, but I think Stokes is different from most guys. We've got a 5 star SG recruit in Robert Hubbs, he'll bolster our bench's firepower. I'm calling it right now, the Vols will be SEC champs next year.

Damn, Stokes said that? That's a huge win for the program. I can't imagine there will be too many post players better than him by the time he's a senior.

If you look at what UT's done this year, they're really only two close games (Georgetown, Memphis) away from being a tournament team. They might have to run the table (including a win at home against Florida) to make it at this point, but regardless of whether or not they make the actual field, they should be happy with the progress they've made as a team that was completely blown up just two seasons ago.

BTW - Have you seen this picture of Jarnell's 8th grade brother? Haha, I feel really bad for that kid he's tackling.

6-foot-7-Isiah-Stokes-in-an-8th-grade-football-game-Instagram.jpg
 
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Damn, Stokes said that? That's a huge win for the program. I can't imagine there will be too many post players better than him by the time he's a senior.

If you look at what UT's done this year, they're really only two close games (Georgetown, Memphis) away from being a tournament team. They might have to run the table (including a win at home against Florida) to make it at this point, but regardless of whether or not they make the actually field, they've already made a lot of great progress for a team that was completely blown up just two seasons ago.

BTW - Have you seen this picture of Jarnell's 8th grade brother? Haha, I feel really bad for that kid with the football.

6-foot-7-Isiah-Stokes-in-an-8th-grade-football-game-Instagram.jpg

I hadn't seen that picture but I follow Jarnell on twitter and he posts pics with his brother all the time. It's preposterous how big he is. Looking at how Stokes looked when he debuted for Tennessee at 17, it's not as surprising as it would be with anyone else. I couldn't find where he said he'd stay for four years, so now I'm doubting if I ever actually saw it.. Doesn't hurt to hope though.
 
I hadn't seen that picture but I follow Jarnell on twitter and he posts pics with his brother all the time. It's preposterous how big he is. Looking at how Stokes looked when he debuted for Tennessee at 17, it's not as surprising as it would be with anyone else. I couldn't find where he said he'd stay for four years, so now I'm doubting if I ever actually saw it.. Doesn't hurt to hope though.

You know, I'm into recruiting and all, but even I'll draw the line when it comes to talking about 8th grade players. Still, for a 6'7" 8th grader hanging around the UT program all the time, I'm sure coach Martin is all over him right now.

How would everyone rank the top ten right now? I'm looking at how the AP poll will probably look next week, and it's a bit of a clusterfuck.
 

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