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I like this gem that resonates trust to the Republican Party.
 

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magnifier661 said:
How about her issues when she was head of Lucent? Or how about how she lied about her daughter dying from drugs, when it wasn't her daughter?
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So it was her stepdaughter. She's not supposed to consider her a daughter because she had a different mother? Sheesh.

Fiorina has a mixed bag of business history, as do most execs who are around when economies go up and down (including The Donald). I'm not backing Fiorina yet, but I liked what she had to say Wednesday night. It's a long way until the primaries.
 
magnifier661 said:
Yeah it was so robotic and insensitive.

As Boxer said on CNN "The democrats would love for Carly to win the primary. We would walk right into the White House"
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The fact that she said it openly on CNN means that the Democrats would really love Trump to win the primary so they could walk right into the White House.
 
e_blazer said:
So it was her stepdaughter. She's not supposed to consider her a daughter because she had a different mother? Sheesh.

Fiorina has a mixed bag of business history, as do most execs who are around when economies go up and down (including The Donald). I'm not backing Fiorina yet, but I liked what she had to say Wednesday night. It's a long way until the primaries.
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No, she was already divorced and that man remarried and had a child.
 
e_blazer said:
The fact that she said it openly on CNN means that the Democrats would really love Trump to win the primary so they could walk right into the White House.
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Lmao okay! You are aware that Boxer smashed her in a California election when the State had a very low opinion on democrats right?
 
"What will you do about Putin?"

"I will get along with him."

Oh, OK!

At least Carly had specific policy proposals.
 
magnifier661 said:
Lmao okay! You are aware that Boxer smashed her in a California election when the State had a very low opinion on democrats right?
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In a state where registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 44% to 31% it's not too surprising that an incumbent Democrat would win against a novice Republican.

But, what the hell, Mags? Did I say I'm a Fiorina supporter? Color me undecided so far except that Trump has earned a "NO WAY IN HELL" from me.
 
My mistake... I guess that's when she said "My daughter"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lculating-tragic-stepdaughter-s-mom-says.html

Her use of the phrase has been reported elsewhere; she used it in an interview with the Des Moines Register, while her campaign website for the California senate shows how she mentioned it in 2010, saying of she and her husband: 'They have a daughter and two granddaughters. Another daughter is recently deceased.'

Yet it was Patricia who was granted custody of the girls following her divorce from their father.


When approached by Daily Mail Online, Patricia would only say: 'There are two sides to every story. That's not how I remember it. Lori was my daughter and I grieve her every day.'

According to Todd Bartlem, there is nothing surprising in Carly's tendency to place herself at the front and center of every narrative.

'She is pathologically narcissistic and all she cares about is her,' he said. 'Nothing holds together with her.

'I got kind of suspicious of her towards the end of the marriage because she had no old friends. She had nobody that she knew in the past, and I thought, "God that's kind of weird."'

Today Bartlem believes the reason lies in Carly's 'modus operandi' of 'dropping people' as soon as they have fulfilled their useful purpose in her life. Certainly it's what he believes happened to him.

'I had no utility and that's what the judgment was,' he said. 'If you aren't useful to her, your time is over. She learned that in business school. I was heartbroken. It was brutal.'

Bartlem claims that when Carly walked out on him she did so without leaving so much as a forwarding address or phone number. A year after the divorce, he claims, she pulled up in the driveway of their former home and calmly said, 'I will never see you again.'

True to her word, all contact ceased.



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Stevenson said:
"What will you do about Putin?"

"I will get along with him."

Oh, OK!

At least Carly had specific policy proposals.
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You mean, set up nuclear missiles in Poland, not talk to Putin and surround Europe with group troops? LOL
 
e_blazer said:
In a state where registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 44% to 31% it's not too surprising that an incumbent Democrat would win against a novice Republican.

But, what the hell, Mags? Did I say I'm a Fiorina supporter? Color me undecided so far except that Trump has earned a "NO WAY IN HELL" from me.
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I'm not saying you are a Carly supporter. Anyone that supports Carly is a fool

But I respect your "NO WAY IN HELL" vote for Trump. Can you respect my "DAMN STRAIGHT" vote for Trump?
 
magnifier661 said:
I'm not saying you are a Carly supporter. Anyone that supports Carly is a fool

But I respect your "NO WAY IN HELL" vote for Trump. Can you respect my "DAMN STRAIGHT" vote for Trump?
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Sure. I just asked for an explanation of your thinking and you gave it.

Don't know what The Donald's sexual orientation has to do with anything, though. ;)
 
magnifier661 said:
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I like this gem that resonates trust to the Republican Party.
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BLITZER: If Hillary Clinton had been the Democratic nominee, as opposed to Barack Obama, would you have endorsed her or John McCain?

TRUMP: Well, I would rather not say, because I don’t have to worry about that.

But Hillary’s a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine. They’re fantastic people. I mean, they’re — you know, the thing, they get a bad knock. She’s a very nice woman. People think, tough, tough. And I guess she’s tough, but she’s a very nice woman. And he’s a very nice guy. We know all about the smarts and how smart they are, and all, but they are good people.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...ain-he-wanted-clinton-as-obamas-vp#.mpmVOZ9QE

“I know her very well,” Trump said. “She’s very talented. And she has a husband that I also like very much. I think she’s going to get the nomination rather easily.”


And those gems don't do the same in your world?
 
julius said:
BLITZER: If Hillary Clinton had been the Democratic nominee, as opposed to Barack Obama, would you have endorsed her or John McCain?

TRUMP: Well, I would rather not say, because I don’t have to worry about that.

But Hillary’s a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine. They’re fantastic people. I mean, they’re — you know, the thing, they get a bad knock. She’s a very nice woman. People think, tough, tough. And I guess she’s tough, but she’s a very nice woman. And he’s a very nice guy. We know all about the smarts and how smart they are, and all, but they are good people.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...ain-he-wanted-clinton-as-obamas-vp#.mpmVOZ9QE

“I know her very well,” Trump said. “She’s very talented. And she has a husband that I also like very much. I think she’s going to get the nomination rather easily.”


And those gems don't do the same in your world?
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But, what you've failed to mention is Trump actually said "I have endorsed and supported the Clintons".

Carly has openly said and even accused others of being Clintonites.
 
Its like sometimes in an attempt to further your point, you don't realize you say things that contradict your own point.
 
julius said:
Its like sometimes in an attempt to further your point, you don't realize you say things that contradict your own point.
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My point, which has always been my point, is Carly will say whatever she thinks will progress her agenda.

Trump has publicly said "I did support Clinton. It's good business", knowing this would hurt his conservative views. Not a typical politician...
 
Top 5 reasons Trump won't win, from USA Today: link

1. Money
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– That may surprise people. After all nearly every story written about Trump's presidential campaign is inevitably accompanied by the word "billionaire" and the phrase "who has vowed to self-finance." Yet while there is no question that Trump is a very wealthy man, the operative words remain "who has vowed." To date, not only has Trump not spent even the smallest fraction of his reported $300 million in available cash, there is no indication in his long personal and professional history that he has any intention of actually doing so. To the contrary, Trump amassed his wealth largely by gambling with other people's money while risking/investing very little personal capital. In fact, on countless occasions over the years Trump has bragged about how little personal money he's had to invest in many business deals. There is nothing in his history to suggest that Trump is seriously prepared to spend any significant portion of his personal wealth despite his boastful rhetoric. When you consider that Mitt Romney raised and spent nearly $400 million just to win the Republican nomination, including tens of millions in personal money, and competitors like former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush have already raised over $100 million that they're now preparing to deploy, that's a big deal.

2. The Real Campaign Is Just Beginning – To date, earned media coverage has largely dictated this race and while Trump has been masterful in manipulating the media to low information voters, the real campaign is only just beginning. And when it comes to negative ads Trump's opponents have a lot of material to work with. As much as voters claim to dislike negative ads the reality is that they are very effective and voters will be introduced to the real Donald Trump in the weeks ahead.

3. He's Not a Conservative – By any measure, Trump is the most liberal GOP frontrunner at any point in recent memory. From his support for single payer health care to his past support for abortion to his calls for massive new tax hikes, which liberal Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren recently praised him for, the reality is that the vast majority of voters do not yet realize that once you cut through his bombastic rhetoric, Trump is to the left on a number of issues important to GOP primary voters. Expect his opponents to hammer Trump and to drive home his real record and past rhetoric.

4. Lack of a Serious Campaign Infrastructure –As we saw in the 2012 GOP primary with the periodic rise of candidates like Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and others, the reality is that earned media and even outside Super PAC money can only take a candidate so far. Organized ground game and voter targeting efforts backed by in-state staff are critical in the long-term, and to date, the Trump campaign does not appear to have invested in a serious campaign infrastructure.

5. Ignorance and Self-Immolation – In just the past week, Trump displayed his complete ignorance of foreign policy in an interview with conservative radio show host Hugh Hewitt where he could not identify any of the major terrorist leaders in the world, which was followed by an insulting personal attack on the only female candidate in the race, Carly Fiorina. The lack of rhetorical self-discipline which some of his supporters see as an attribute today will inevitably come back to bite him as voters grow weary of his act. Everyone loves a carnival barker and reality shows can be amusing but when you get to the point of seriously deciding if that person should be the leader of the free world, expect many Republican voters to pull the lever for someone else.
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magnifier661 said:
My point, which has always been my point, is Carly will say whatever she thinks will progress her agenda.

Trump has publicly said "I did support Clinton. It's good business", knowing this would hurt his conservative views. Not a typical politician...
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And trump farts gold dust too!
 
e_blazer said:
Top 5 reasons Trump won't win, from USA Today: link
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In addition to #5, which is obvious, #2 & #3 are the most significant IMO.

Now where's the list of reasons why he could win the nomination, starting with the built-in name recognition, his willingness to attack anyone in any manner that might be worthwhile, and the fact that he's the only candidate guaranteed to at least survive the inevitable war of attrition that will pare the number of GOP candidates down to probably 6 between now and the primaries.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
The fact that trump is probably the most liberal Gop candidate ever is the only chance the republicans have. That's a good thing, not a bad thing as the article suggests
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Exactly!!!! In order to win the general, you must win independent votes. They lean more towards the middle (obviously). No far left or far right candidate will do that.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
In addition to #5, which is obvious, #2 & #3 are the most significant IMO.

Now where's the list of reasons why he could win the nomination, starting with the built-in name recognition, his willingness to attack anyone in any manner that might be worthwhile, and the fact that he's the only candidate guaranteed to at least survive the inevitable war of attrition that will pare the number of GOP candidates down to probably 6 between now and the primaries.
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So does that mean Bernie doesn't have a shot? A lot in the democrat party questions if Bernie is truly a democrat when he's so far socialist.
 
magnifier661 said:
So does that mean Bernie doesn't have a shot? A lot in the democrat party questions if Bernie is truly a democrat when he's so far socialist.
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A liberal going far left is much more acceptable than a conservative going left. A better comparison would be someone considered very fiscally conservative trying to win the democratic nomination.
 
If I had a nickel for every time I thought "no way Republican voters will pick that unelectable lunatic", and then they did anyway, I'd have enough for a cup of coffee.

It would be wrong to underestimate Trump, because it would be wrong to overestimate the common sense of the GOP primary electorate.

That said, if I had to bet, I'd bet he'll flame out before the first primary arrives. There are, after all, still lots of other unelectable lunatics to choose from.

barfo
 
PtldPlatypus said:
In addition to #5, which is obvious, #2 & #3 are the most significant IMO.

Now where's the list of reasons why he could win the nomination, starting with the built-in name recognition, his willingness to attack anyone in any manner that might be worthwhile, and the fact that he's the only candidate guaranteed to at least survive the inevitable war of attrition that will pare the number of GOP candidates down to probably 6 between now and the primaries.
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Here's one guy's list:

1. He doesn't need to bluff. Trump has such confidence that he's the kind of player who doesn't bluff in a poker game. While this feels counterintuitive to a winning strategy, particularly in an age of baby-kissing politicians who thrive on placation over results, it's actually refreshing. His candor builds respect. Radio listeners are extolling day after day the fact Trump is transparent to a fault, from his stances on immigration to foreign relations. Even his faults are steadily accepted and adopted. Poll Americans on who they like better: Trump vs. Univision reporter Jorge Ramos, actress Rosie O'Donnell, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), blogger Erick Erickson, pollster Frank Luntz or even columnist George Will, and the New York businessman will be on top every time by double digits.

2. He can't be intimidated. Forget his multibillion dollar net worth. Push aside his armada of contacts and networking forged over decades. One of the strongest resonating dimensions to Trump is grit and tenacity. Super-PAC coffers of more than $100 million, compliments of the U.S. Supreme Court’s Citizens United case, don't dissuade or cower Trump. He has access to the same level of resources. Political titles and legislative chevrons glimmering with laws passed in Congress don't make Trump blink, because he's been the donor sought after by many of these same politicians now running against him. From connections to chits, deep roots in business to opponents with far less resources, competitors simply can't match Trump's popularity. As one caller to the show recently bemused, compare Sen. Marco Rubio's (R-Fla.) student loans or Gov. Scott Walker's (R-Wis.) personal debt to Trump's acumen and portfolio, and it's almost like petulant children are competing against their successful, prominent father.

3. Out with political correctness. Build a wall to block illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America while deporting what he calls "anchor babies" and their families; impugn Russian, Chinese and South American leaders despite inextricably linked economies with the U.S.; hobble castigators who choose insults and fodder over substance in debates and interviews. It's almost like describing a Roman general or martyr of a revolution, yet it's a precise portrayal of Trump. His wherewithal is opening the eyes of Americans to the incompetence of our government. Callers remind me nearly every show that they want solutions, not sensationalism. They seek commonsense policies, not sound bites. My callers think Megyn Kelly was rude in her Fox News debate questions. They resoundingly believe Ramos deserved his fast-and-furious escort out of the recent Iowa press conference. They concur that chest-pounders like Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) do, in fact, need to be taken down a notch on the hubris ladder. From race to gender to economic principles, Trump's stark opinions are catching the attention of the public, and they can't stop staring — in a good way. This isn't a painted breast in Manhattan, but the cold, hard truth about America being broken, and a journeyman blessed with the right tools to "get 'er done" and make repairs.

4. He's reinvigorating America across the political spectrum. Like a Lee Greenwood or Johnny Cash song, Trump is traveling from the lakes to the fields to the cities of America, and he's definitely been everywhere — and isn't stopping. The media follow his path; opponents emulate his narrative; the electorate revels in the freshness of a candidate diagnosing what ails us and offering painful but necessary remedies. As for radio talk show listeners, be it the libertarian free marketer, Tea Party stalwart, open-minded Republican or smidgeon of moderate Democrats, Trump's ascension in public support isn't just vertical, but also lateral from right to middle to left in partisan affiliation. As one listener messaged last month, President Obama's initial campaign maxims of "hope" and "yes we can" were just that: maxims, that never came to fruition. It appears Trump's legacy may be following through with his promises, and that expectation appears to have awakened the American ethos.

5. Finally, a business-centric leader who is comfortable making decisions. A fan of the show recently commented that Trump can win the race for the presidency by naming his vice president and Cabinet members in the next few months, rather than after a Republican nomination. The logic is that building a team of experts who will manage the operations of the nation, as part of a campaign platform, is superior to generalities and wishful thinking. Trump's business acumen is proven. Callers are alluding to the fact that he isn't afraid of the media, nor does he use the crutch of notes and prepared speeches. He's a negotiator, not a political puppet. He's a dealmaker who thrives in the hot seat of a boardroom. Logic suggests he'll be the same in foreign negotiations or hunkered down in a military command center. Trump doesn't "blink," in the Malcolm Gladwell context.
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Seems like this one needs a little disclaimer like, "This opinion has been bought and paid for by The Donald." ;)
 
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