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Nah. No one complains that Trump is not a career politician, it's that he has no political experience at all.

Some think that a number in between 0 and 100% is more balanced.

barfo
See I disagree because to get large developments finished, you must go through the government. I'm sure he knows a lot about laws and reading contracts. I'm sure he's also privy to understanding laws as well since he deals with a lot of codes
 
That all weren't career politicians. That was the argument many naysayers said about trump.

Sorry to burst your bubble.


Kisses.....

Ideally, we should be governed by people who aren't career politicians.

Trump is scary evil in his stated plans for Hispanics. I seriously doubt him insulting the wives and daughters of foreign leaders makes for good foreign policy.
 
Ideally, we should be governed by people who aren't career politicians.

Trump is scary evil in his stated plans for Hispanics. I seriously doubt him insulting the wives and daughters of foreign leaders makes for good foreign policy.
True, most foreign leaders have enough backbone to gain the same level of respect by trump.
 
:)

<pats Denny on the back>

It's okay but you can't have sprinkles. Sprinkles are for winners...

I am an Ass.

(Mod edit, personal insult. Bad Denny, bad!)
 
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Exactly!!! As you see, he was honest about everything he said about trump. Thank you very much on proving that point.

I never said Sanders likes Trump. It's that sanders thinks trump is genuinely nice. Sorry to burst your bubble. It must have made you really mad

Please look up in the dictionary what the word "sarcasm" means.
 
No one is impressed when you reference the Klingon dictionary.
 
No one is impressed that you need to be impressed

good comeback.


and since you seem to be incapable of understanding it, that was sarcasm.
 
I was on a date last night and Trump got brought up. My response is "yeah, he's pretty funny and entertaining". The girl was not amused. haha.
 
FWIW

Fox News set a ratings record when it aired the first debate.

CNN set an even bigger record for the second debate. Something like 23M viewers, or 1 in 7 households tuned in. Over a year out from the election and before the primaries.

I haven't seen much of Hillary or the crazy old white guy on CNN for days or even weeks. I doubt they're getting much air play on Fox either.
 
Trump promises to solve all of our countries problems. But, Trump has a very limited supply of tools he uses to solve problems.

Actually, Trump only has one tool, his verbal hammer. And every problem looks like a nail to him.
 
The GOP messed up big time by sending Carly as their assassin. Almost everything Carly tried to sell was a lie. I wouldn't be surprised if Carly actually dropped in the polls because most of America have seen the Barbara Boxer ads, researched how she was a failed executive that was never offered a job for 10 years, that board members of companies she was director of kicked her out, how she didn't live a poor hard life, how she made fun of other candidate's looks, how the child that died of drugs wasn't even hers.

There is a long laundry list of history that discounts Carly. I can't wait for the new polls to come out. This should be fun!
 
The GOP messed up big time by sending Carly as their assassin. Almost everything Carly tried to sell was a lie. I wouldn't be surprised if Carly actually dropped in the polls because most of America have seen the Barbara Boxer ads, researched how she was a failed executive that was never offered a job for 10 years, that board members of companies she was director of kicked her out, how she didn't live a poor hard life, how she made fun of other candidate's looks, how the child that died of drugs wasn't even hers.

There is a long laundry list of history that discounts Carly. I can't wait for the new polls to come out. This should be fun!

Hmm...maybe not as fun as you were thinking:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/...tchers-carson-leads-trump-in-michigan-by-two/
 
Sorry I couldn't respond last night, Mags. My computer was in the middle of an upgrade(?) to Windows 10. Now that I'm back operational, let me respond to your Trump-mania:

@e_blazer here is a rough draft of why I will be voting for Trump.

I believe Trump is a successful businessman that has been in the business of politics from the other side of the spectrum. He was the guy paying these politicians off for favors and had first hand experience with how this country is run by lobbyists and special interest groups. I am tired of hoping my vote for a republican or democrat will field a leader that has this country's best interest in mind. I haven't seen it yet and I'm just fed up. I am tired of career politicians that go around and promise the world because they know 90% of america are too stupid to figure out they are a Charlatan. I'm also tired of "so called leaders" like Obama and Bush, Jr. that have absolutely zero backbone to do the right thing, take control of the situation and make our country respectable around the world.

I suspect that the angst you're feeling over career politicians sucking up to lobbies and not looking after the best interests for the country is the predominant reason for Trump's supporters being willing to chuck their common sense and go with the blowhard. I fail to see a way of connecting the dots from having played the game from the private sector to being unwilling to play the game as an elected official. As far as the "backbone" test goes, yeah, Trump is willing to call anyone stupid if they don't agree with him. Somehow, I don't see that working out well when he actually has to work with Congress.

Trump is an asshole blowhard. I fucking get it and agree for the most part. But what I do know is this guy gets shit done, and usually through a bunch of red tape. Building huge skyscrappers isn't like applying for a remodel permit. It takes a ton of planning, legislation, and organization. I think Trump has the ability to find the talent needed to apply this very same model to the economic model of this country. I also know Trump has the balls to call out those that don't have this country's best interest in mind. He's also one that seems invested in winning, and just getting elected isn't winning. He must be successful at being president. I have full confidence that he will work tirelessly on making sure he gets up to speed, creating the game plan and presenting this game plan to congress to push through. I think he has the ability to understand it takes two to tango, because many of his projects have multiple investors, so he will find ways to try and appease all parties involved (and that includes the people).

I work in the private sector helping developers get the approvals they need to do their projects. Guys like Trump are used to being able to hire and fire as they wish, make decisions quickly without considering what other interest groups may think, and spending whatever it takes to bulldoze their way to their objectives. They don't really understand the nuts and bolts of the project; they just hire guys that do. Maybe that sounds refreshing to you, but I see it as a recipe for a frickin' disaster.

I believe in Trump. I really do... I think he has the grit to be our guy. I think he has the clout to negotiate in foreign matters and balls to expedite policies.

That sounds more like a wish and a prayer than a reasoned opinion, Mags. One person's "grit" is another person's impetus to a "fuck you" response. Trump has clout where people see his money as a big motivator. He won't have any of that working for him when he tries to negotiate with Congress or world leaders.

I am still waiting for the details of his current policies, but I think he's playing poker right now. I think he's leaking little by little so he is always relevant and in the media. The tax plan should be out in a few weeks, then I suppose a budget of some sort, then probably the budget to build the wall. Whatever the case, I doubt he releases anything until he is comfortable with all numbers and understands them like the back of his hand.

Yeah, we're all waiting for the details because all he's done so far is say, "I've made a lot of money, I'll get things done." Getting the Mexicans to build a wall on their dime? Rounding up and deporting 11 million people and then coming up with a litmus test to let the "good ones" back in the country? Tearing up the deal with Iran and forcing them to sign a new one just because he's the Donald? Getting Congress to adopt some new tax scheme and re-write Obamacare in some quick fashion? Yeah...I think we're all waiting for the details on those Trumpisms.

I think if Trump becomes president, it will create a revolution of some sort. I believe politicians will begin to understand that shit ain't business as usual. They won't get re-elected because they've been in the biz for 30 years. They will get elected because they will now focus on the people and business of america

I agree with you on the revolution. Just not sure which pissed-off interest group would be first in line. Latinos? Liberals? Women?

As far as his business credentials go towards proving his fiscal abilities, I'm not buying. Those 4 bankruptcies tell me that he's prone to making some big errors of judgment. And, speaking of that, how hard do you think it's going to be for Democrats to find the little guys that Trump screwed by taking bankruptcy to avoid paying his debts? Yeah, "everybody does it" is going to fly real well with general electorate when those facts start coming out.

I don't think there's much reason for me to start looking for the island retreat just yet because I think Trump will wear out his welcome pretty quick. I think it's already happening. Yeah, he still has a lead, but that's just because there are still so many candidates in the race. As they start to drop out, I don't see Trump as the person that will pick up support. I figure that 70 percent of Republicans are against him and 100 percent of Democrats.
 
I read that and the poll was done the night of. I'm curious to see how that poll is after Boxer released her tweet, all the campaign ads came out and when the actual economist was on MSNBC and CNN confirming she was an absolute failure?

I doubt that too many Republican voters are going to be swayed by a Barbara Boxer tweet or an MSNBC piece. I've seen varying opinions on her time at HP and, like most of these things, the spin tends to vary depending upon the motivations of the author.
 
I doubt that too many Republican voters are going to be swayed by a Barbara Boxer tweet or an MSNBC piece. I've seen varying opinions on her time at HP and, like most of these things, the spin tends to vary depending upon the motivations of the author.
How about her issues when she was head of Lucent? Or how about how she lied about her daughter dying from drugs, when it wasn't her daughter?
 
how the child that died of drugs wasn't even hers.

That in a strange way makes me think better of her. When she said that about the dead kid in the debate, it was like she was talking about the neighbor's pet turtle, not her own child.

barfo
 
That in a strange way makes me think better of her. When she said that about the dead kid in the debate, it was like she was talking about the neighbor's pet turtle, not her own child.

barfo
Yeah it was so robotic and insensitive.

As Boxer said on CNN "The democrats would love for Carly to win the primary. We would walk right into the White House"
 
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