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TorturedBlazerFan said:
If NO quit / got fired tomorrow what do you think his legacy would be in Portland.
Personally I see him as a salesman. He talks down to his fan base a lot. He is responsible for one of the worst off seasons in franchise history (2016), and has yet to really pull the plug on a big trade.
On the flip side he has been fairly successful in the draft. He hasn’t made a lot of bad trades because he doesn’t trade very often. He also did a good / great job of recovering the franchise after Aldridge left.
I’m trying to avoid just saying he’s bad because I don’t like him, as I know that’s not really fair.

I don’t really know if I buy that he’s in the top 3rd of GM’s but I respect your opinion.
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I think salesman is a great trait in a GM. Sorry he doesn't coddle your fandom. Lil millennial Snowflake sounding ;) @Natebishop3.

Here's the thing about trades. If you only hit two or three out the park you can still be a great GM. It's all about the ability to put a deal together and connect with the bat. Sometimes where the ball lands is out of your control (ie Afflalo then Wes going down). Olshey has proven his ability to get trades done and the best batters know when not to swing.

Plumlee for Nurk (and a pick) was a home run. Completely changed the makeup of this team, how we play and more importantly how we defend. All it takes is another one or two like that over the next couple years and we could be in business just in time for a new Dame supermax.
 
James lamphear said:
Baldwin might be odd man out with 6 players can play either the 1 or the 2. I know Trent will play either the 2 or 3. I just cant see them carry 7 guards on the roster. I see them going with 14 players at the start of the season and 2 two way players. I see Baldwin and PapaG to get waive after the summer league.
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There's no way Baldwin is on his way out. Hes too good. That position isnt that stacked. 6 guards isn't bad at all, it should actually be average (on a 15 man roster a balanced team would have 3 players at every position).
 
BonesJones said:
missed so bad that he banked it in
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This is virtually an oxymoron...Tim Duncan missed a lot and banked them in eh? How do you do that exactly? I saw him make the shot...he banked in from the sweet spot on the backboard..
 
HailBlazers said:
I think salesman is a great trait in a GM. Sorry he doesn't coddle your fandom. Lil millennial Snowflake sounding ;) @Natebishop3.

Here's the thing about trades. If you only hit two or three out the park you can still be a great GM. It's all about the ability to put a deal together and connect with the bat. Sometimes where the ball lands is out of your control (ie Afflalo then Wes going down). Olshey has proven his ability to get trades done and the best batters know when not to swing.

Plumlee for Nurk (and a pick) was a home run. Completely changed the makeup of this team, how we play and more importantly how we defend. All it takes is another one or two like that over the next couple years and we could be in business just in time for a new Dame supermax.
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You literally didn’t address at all the 2016 debacle he gave guys not just too much money per year but long contracts too.
I’m technically a millennial I guess, but talking down to your fans is not a good thing. I see him more as a used car salesman then someone selling me a good product most of the time, but to each there own.
He hardly ever really makes trades so the notion he’s really good at it kind of laughable. His last two trades were salary cap dumps to take care of stupid contracts he signed.
Now I am trying to be fair about it, I realize he has done some good things as the GM, but you seem to be slanted the arguement without really recognizing much of the bad stuff, you mentioned Afflalo but brushed it off pretty quick.
 
James lamphear said:
Baldwin might be odd man out with 6 players can play either the 1 or the 2. I know Trent will play either the 2 or 3. I just cant see them carry 7 guards on the roster. I see them going with 14 players at the start of the season and 2 two way players. I see Baldwin and PapaG to get waive after the summer league.
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Naw, Baldwin will make it. Papa G might even get his guarantee date pushed back.

We may have a lot of guards but I only see two small forwards on the roster, and only one real point guard. I see Curry as CJs direct backup. Trent will play more SF according to Olshey and Stauskas is probably a hybrid as well.
 
BonesJones said:
There's no way Baldwin is on his way out. Hes too good. That position isnt that stacked. 6 guards isn't bad at all, it should actually be average (on a 15 man roster a balanced team would have 3 players at every position).
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We will see with the final roster we will wait by July 19 when olshey either keep him or cut him. I didn't say he isn't good but he will be the 7th players that can play the guard position.
 
Scalma said:
Naw, Baldwin will make it. Papa G might even get his guarantee date pushed back.

We may have a lot of guards but I only see two small forwards on the roster, and only one real point guard. I see Curry as CJs direct backup. Trent will play more SF according to Olshey and Stauskas is probably a hybrid as well.
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That if they carried 15 players and due to being over the salary limit they might start out with 14. I am not saying your wrong and he does play good enough to be on the roster.
 
I guess I'm still confused on who's a millennial. :dunno::huh::smiley-unsure:

In MY mind, a millennial is a person born in 1999-2001-ish, who's now a budding college student, who bases their life on their feelings instead of common sense, and who make up unrealistic fantasies for themselves about how they FEEL things should be, instead of accepting reality about how the real world around them actually is.

I was born in 1983, so I'm safe. :bgrin:
 
Jade Falcon said:
I guess I'm still confused on who's a millennial. :dunno::huh::smiley-unsure:

In MY mind, a millennial is a person born in 1999-2001-ish, who's now a budding college student, who bases their life on their feelings instead of common sense, and who make up unrealistic fantasies for themselves about how they FEEL things should be, instead of accepting reality about how the real world around them actually is.

I was born in 1983, so I'm safe. :bgrin:
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Nope. You're a millennial. Sorry to break it to you. The definition is 81-2001 or something like that. You're definitely in it.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I guess I'm still confused on who's a millennial. :dunno::huh::smiley-unsure:

In MY mind, a millennial is a person born in 1999-2001-ish, who's now a budding college student, who bases their life on their feelings instead of common sense, and who make up unrealistic fantasies for themselves about how they FEEL things should be, instead of accepting reality about how the real world around them actually is.

I was born in 1983, so I'm safe. :bgrin:
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It changes constantly.(even the google definition)
But as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who came of age(hit 18) after the turn of the century is a millennial.
I was first told that definition by a teacher when I was 16.

But it changes constantly due to the(for lack of a better word) stigma which is associated with being a millennial.
When in all actuality there is very little difference between gen x and millennials.
It's just older generations since the dawn of time have always thought their predecessors have it far easier than they did.
Which in some ways is true, but in other ways is far from the truth. It's all a matter of perspective.
 
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Millennial

when in fact, birth years for Millennial range from about 1981-2001, just as the birth-years for Baby Boomers ranged from 1946-1964.
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And then these dudes say the range stops at 1997.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...e-millennials-end-and-post-millennials-begin/

In order to keep the Millennial generation analytically meaningful, and to begin looking at what might be unique about the next cohort, Pew Research Center will use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work. Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 (ages 22 to 37 in 2018) will be considered a Millennial, and anyone born from 1997 onward will be part of a new generation.
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Interesting game. Baldwin showed some nice offensive variety that would work in a real game. I think we have to be very encouraged from what we saw in Simons. I was skeptical going in, but he didn't look overwhelmed at all. Nice long frame, quick feet, I think he can become a good defender in time. Trent showed he can do more than stand in a corner waiting for the whip pass, but, really, for this season we kind of need him to do that and do it well. I think it's a wait and see at the moment.

A throw away game for Collins. Looks like he's using Summer League to experiment and it didn't look very great. We may need another year and off season of work before we see substantial improvement from him offensively. It would be nice if he can improve to the point where we can rely on him hitting the open mid range shots on kick outs and pick and fades. Just do that first before anything else. Biggie didn't look any different to me. I don't think he's even a poor man version of Zach Randolph. Zach was a super quick jumper that made him so good in the post, and Biggie's not. I see the effort and hustle, but not a lot to show for it. Layman did his usual invisible act with the occasion splash play to give false hope. If he had a consistent 3 point shot, I think we could be encouraged that he has some ability to attack the hoop and run the floor. Like with Trent, we really just need him to be money on set shots waiting for the ball to swing his way. He doesn't look much better there.
 
BonesJones said:
"Collins is pissing me off"
"Caleb Swanigan is a 32% 3pt shooter in my opinion"
And a random person randomly calling me out on an opinion of Trent.

And that's what caused all this. Goddamn you guys gotta chill.
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That's not true. Thus started from the beginning. You've said lots of negative things about Caleb since the pick was made.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I guess I'm still confused on who's a millennial. :dunno::huh::smiley-unsure:

In MY mind, a millennial is a person born in 1999-2001-ish, who's now a budding college student, who bases their life on their feelings instead of common sense, and who make up unrealistic fantasies for themselves about how they FEEL things should be, instead of accepting reality about how the real world around them actually is.

I was born in 1983, so I'm safe. :bgrin:
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Wow.....sounds like you just wrote the perfect description of the current MAGA crew......just sayin’......

:cheers:
 
Jade Falcon said:
Does the MAGA crew need safe spaces on college campuses, block traffic in protest, riot when Conservatives come to town, and blame the President for Hurricanes?
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No, but they blame everyone else for their problems and expect the government to give them back what they think they deserve, instead of facing the reality that the world that actually is has moved on without them because they refuse to change in ways that might help them to help themselves........
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
No, but they blame everyone else for their problems and expect the government to give them back what they think they deserve, instead of facing the reality that the world that actually is has moved on without them because they refuse to change in ways that might help them to help themselves........
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That hasn't been my experience, but hey.......if CNN, Hollywood, and Bill Maher say it's so........
 
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