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Contract absorption is our biggest asset.

Pending a physical, Ryan Anderson would be a huge acquisition.

Perfect contrast to Vonleh and has a skillset to mesh in immediately with this system.

The price would likely include taking on Asik.

If that means getting Anderson for no assets do you take on Asik's anchor of a contract?
Yeah if we can trade Kaman. That'd leave $17M in cap space to buyout Asik. Buy him out for less than that and we lose no money off our cap space this summer.
 
Contract absorption is our biggest asset.

Pending a physical, Ryan Anderson would be a huge acquisition.

Perfect contrast to Vonleh and has a skillset to mesh in immediately with this system.

The price would likely include taking on Asik.

If that means getting Anderson for no assets do you take on Asik's anchor of a contract?
What would be your rotation though?

Anderson (28) / Vonleh (13) / Meyers (7)
Plumlee (20) / Davis (20) / Meyers (8)

???
 
Contract absorption is our biggest asset.

Pending a physical, Ryan Anderson would be a huge acquisition.

Perfect contrast to Vonleh and has a skillset to mesh in immediately with this system.

The price would likely include taking on Asik.

If that means getting Anderson for no assets do you take on Asik's anchor of a contract?

I would be shocked to see that happen since I have heard quite a few teams would love to get Ryan Anderson. The Clippers being a likely candidate. So I think New Orleans will get an asset back. I was never a Asik fan like some of you were a couple of years ago, but I think he is one of those guys that could fill that rim protector role portion of our center by committee, for a salary that will be reasonable after the cap goes up. (10-11 per)
 
Once Asik got paid, he just never seemed to get any better...sort of like Turkoglu...I'd rather bring back Joel Freeland than sign Asik.
 
There are a lot of teams looking to make deals and a number of teams with multiple Draft picks....no way Philly and Boston use all 7 1st round picks. As for Portland, Henderson has been playing so much better but he's not going to resign here to be a 4th guard when there is so much money out there this summer. Now if all you can get for him is a 2nd round pick, just let it play out and see how well this team can play down the stretch.

If Kaman would like to go to a contender and there is an offer for him, I'd let him go. He'd been a great solider and mentor but his career is winding down and he doesn't have many chances yet to contend for a title.
 
Contract absorption is our biggest asset.

Pending a physical, Ryan Anderson would be a huge acquisition.

Perfect contrast to Vonleh and has a skillset to mesh in immediately with this system.

The price would likely include taking on Asik.

If that means getting Anderson for no assets do you take on Asik's anchor of a contract?
No and hell no, not when Anderson is a UFA this summer
 
Contract absorption is our biggest asset.

Pending a physical, Ryan Anderson would be a huge acquisition.

Perfect contrast to Vonleh and has a skillset to mesh in immediately with this system.

The price would likely include taking on Asik.

If that means getting Anderson for no assets do you take on Asik's anchor of a contract?

Hell no. Is this a joke? Anderson is a free agent this summer but Asik would screw up our cap for 5 years.
 
Yeah if we can trade Kaman. That'd leave $17M in cap space to buyout Asik. Buy him out for less than that and we lose no money off our cap space this summer.

I don't think you understand how buyouts work.

Its spread over the life of the contract. Even if we buy out Asik its spread out over the 4 more years of his contract; or 9 years if we use the stretch provision. I don't want the Blazers stuck with an Asik cap hit until 2025!
 
I don't think you understand how buyouts work.

Its spread over the life of the contract. Even if we buy out Asik its spread out over the 4 more years of his contract; or 9 years if we use the stretch provision. I don't want the Blazers stuck with an Asik cap hit until 2025!

They are not going to re-sign Anderson, so it would be a wet dream for them to have someone take Asik off their hands just to get Anderson. If they don't want Asik, they can stretch him, too, but Stretching is a cost.
 
I don't think you understand how buyouts work.

Its spread over the life of the contract. Even if we buy out Asik its spread out over the 4 more years of his contract; or 9 years if we use the stretch provision. I don't want the Blazers stuck with an Asik cap hit until 2025!
I've read that you can allocate the money to certain years
 
Trade Deadline Primer

1: Players who were hot commodities 5+ years ago don't line up with Olshey's Plan
2: If all our players are so good they are untouchable... We would be a title contender

In other words I come in here and all I see is names that are yesterdays news being thrown around like they are going to be some great addition. Also I see a lot of "Hell no!" posted where it's pretty clear very little logical assessment has actually been applied to a suggestion, in other words if your only justification is Hell No! then you probably haven't actually thought about it enough to know why.
 
Trade Deadline Primer

1: Players who were hot commodities 5+ years ago don't line up with Olshey's Plan
2: If all our players are so good they are untouchable... We would be a title contender

In other words I come in here and all I see is names that are yesterdays news being thrown around like they are going to be some great addition. Also I see a lot of "Hell no!" posted where it's pretty clear very little logical assessment has actually been applied to a suggestion, in other words if your only justification is Hell No! then you probably haven't actually thought about it enough to know why.

Probably a good thing that fans don't make personnel decisions :grin:
 
Probably a good thing that fans don't make personnel decisions :grin:

If they did, I would imagine TRob would be our starting PF and Crabbe would be with the Stampede....trust Olshey!

They get to for the All Star game though. And the NBA seems to think its great. Maybe they should just have us vote for which cities should have teams and the players who are on those teams.

Get the fans out of this all together. we are biased and irrrational. It is completely unfair to the top players in the league who get snubbed ( Dame) because of idiot fans across the nation. All Star nominations should be based on three things and three things only in this order:

1) personal performance
2) team performance
3) attitude

So if a guy like Dame and a guy like Cousins have similar stats and the team has the same record, then who has more tech's? etc.

Fandom and popularity of personalities and style of play should be irrelevant to this. These nominations and appearances are a part of the tally when getting into the HOF. The league is killing it for some.
 
In other words I come in here and all I see is names that are yesterdays news being thrown around like they are going to be some great addition. Also I see a lot of "Hell no!" posted where it's pretty clear very little logical assessment has actually been applied to a suggestion, in other words if your only justification is Hell No! then you probably haven't actually thought about it enough to know why.

Is it OK to say Hell no to names that are yesterday's news?
 
Trade Deadline Primer

1: Players who were hot commodities 5+ years ago don't line up with Olshey's Plan
2: If all our players are so good they are untouchable... We would be a title contender
3. Our team philosophy is to collect high character, hard-working players, and shooters.

That's why I like Ryan Anderson, and not Shabust.
 
Portland Trail Blazers

Cap situation: $49 million payroll – miles under the cap, can absorb huge amounts of salary

Needs: Wide open

Outlook: The Blazers are in perhaps the most flexible situation of any team in the league at the deadline. With nearly $20 million in space below the cap available, they could mathematically figure in virtually any trade they felt like being part of, including facilitating a massive salary dump or two if they were so inclined. They also have virtually no untouchable pieces outside stars Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum (and perhaps sophomore Noah Vonleh), meaning they could get involved and look to swap some of their young pieces for others that might fit better.

It all depends what Portland wants to do, and they’ll get plenty of phone calls. Teams looking to dump money only have a couple true outlets available, and the Blazers are at the top of the list. Maybe they could get a pick or a young asset from Boston to carry David Lee’s salary if the Celtics need the space for another deal? They could be the third team in a bigger deal in a heartbeat due to their financial flexibility, and GM Neil Olshey is savvy enough to make sure he extracts assets from teams if this becomes the case. Shoot, they could even go all-out for the eight seed this season and make a smaller win-now move without affecting their long-term outlook much at all. But the Blazers are in no rush with their young group, and they can afford to pick off low-hanging fruit at this deadline and head into the summer with options.
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/deadline-watch-northwest-division/
 
Trade Deadline Primer

1: Players who were hot commodities 5+ years ago don't line up with Olshey's Plan
2: If all our players are so good they are untouchable... We would be a title contender

In other words I come in here and all I see is names that are yesterdays news being thrown around like they are going to be some great addition. Also I see a lot of "Hell no!" posted where it's pretty clear very little logical assessment has actually been applied to a suggestion, in other words if your only justification is Hell No! then you probably haven't actually thought about it enough to know why.
Exactly. People are talking about Harkless and Crabbe like they're untouchable.
 
Exactly. People are talking about Harkless and Crabbe like they're untouchable.

Why do you hate on Crabbe? Nobody is saying hes a superstar or anything, but he's doing exactly what drafting in the 2nd round you hope players do. And thats turn out solid and become a nice role player. Last time I checked a team cant have every single player as a star, eventually you need a couple Crabbe like players to fill out a roster
 
Why do you hate on Crabbe? Nobody is saying hes a superstar or anything, but he's doing exactly what drafting in the 2nd round you hope players do. And thats turn out solid and become a nice role player. Last time I checked a team cant have every single player as a star, eventually you need a couple Crabbe like players to fill out a roster
I've been a major crabbe supporter for a long long time. Love his game. The annoying thing is when people jump on top of you and act like you are killing their puppy when you suggest trading him. Crabbe looks good, but he isn't established into a dame or Cj, who should be the only untouchable players on our roster
 
Why do you hate on Crabbe? Nobody is saying hes a superstar or anything, but he's doing exactly what drafting in the 2nd round you hope players do. And thats turn out solid and become a nice role player. Last time I checked a team cant have every single player as a star, eventually you need a couple Crabbe like players to fill out a roster
I don't hate on Crabbe.. I just don't think he's untouchable?

Why do you hate on Lillard? He's much better than Crabbe
 
It isn't that those guys are untouchable, it's that their value to other teams is probably lower than their value to us (in my guesstimation).
Doesn't mean we shouldn't explore what their trade value actually is.
 
I think NO has been exploring our player's trade value since the minute he became our GM.
You realize that a players trade value changes? The trade value they had when he became doesn't matter.
 
Houston does.
So does Sacramento.

You guys are probably both right.

However, I'm sure Houston doesn't get anything close to Plumlee for Howard from another team.

As for Sac, they need to do Something to either get younger or become relevant. Boogie is a terrible leader, and they current are in turmoil. We'll see if they do something better. I doubt it.
 

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