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Schilly said:
I agree completely, but Stotts historically as a head coach has typically used a short rotation.
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I'm hopeful that he will be in new territory soon, with a team that's good enough to loosen the grip a bit. So far as head coach he's had done bad teams to deal with and bad benches at least.
 
Stotts with Atlanta used 9 guys 10mpg in 53 gmaes or more
In Milwaukee he used 10 one year and 9 the other

Like I said in another thread Pops used 13.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
San Antonio has shown us the wisdom of lowering starter minutes: longevity, strong bench play (though that's a bit chicken or egg), and long term post-season success from being well-rested. It might behoove us to move from an 8-man rotation to a 9- or 10-man rotation, which wouldn't be scary if our bench was better.
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A major reason the Blazers' starters played so many minutes is because the bench was so bad. Portland only made the playoffs by 4 games (Dallas held the tiebreaker). Had LMA been injured even 8 more games, I'm not sure the Blazers make the playoffs.
 
Schilly said:
Stotts with Atlanta used 9 guys 10mpg in 53 gmaes or more
In Milwaukee he used 10 one year and 9 the other

Like I said in another thread Pops used 13.
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Pop has 13 players better than Mo, so yeah.
 
PapaG said:
A major reason the Blazers' starters played so many minutes is because the bench was so bad. Portland only made the playoffs by 4 games (Dallas held the tiebreaker). Had LMA been injured even 8 more games, I'm not sure the Blazers make the playoffs.
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Agreed; like I said, it's a chicken or egg situation.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Agreed; like I said, it's a chicken or egg situation.
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For me, the solution is to try and move guys like Wright, Leonard, or Freeland in a trade to bolster the bench. The starters are very, very good. When the Spurs bench was on the floor with Portland sans LMA, it was a bloodbath.
 
PapaG said:
For me, the solution is to try and move guys like Wright, Leonard, or Freeland in a trade to bolster the bench. The starters are very, very good. When the Spurs bench was on the floor with Portland sans LMA, it was a bloodbath.
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Yeah, we need a player off the bench that you can pass to, and who will score pretty efficiently. Sixth man is a great spot for a mostly okay bench player who's better offensively than defensively. Greg Monroe?
 
PapaG said:
For me, the solution is to try and move guys like Wright, Leonard, or Freeland in a trade to bolster the bench. The starters are very, very good. When the Spurs bench was on the floor with Portland sans LMA, it was a bloodbath.
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Agreed, though I would prefer to keep Leonard one more year. I don't think he's going to be some supstah, but I do think he can become a solid backup 5 with some experience and more work this summer. I have my Keep list, for now, as the 5 starters, Trob, Meyers, CJ and Will. Freeland and Wright might be able to bring a decent reserve upgrade. Then use MLE to add another.
 
I still want to say Marvin Williams would be my #1 target for the MLE for us.
 
BTW the reason I say Williams, is most of the guys people in here are proposing made MORE than MLE last year, and their teams are worried about being able to match offers to keep them. Examples being Gortat, Deng, Lowry. Others are already primary starters for their teams. Marvin is going to be 28 and looks like a legit rotational bench guy. He doesn't look like the kind of player many teams are going to spend big on to be a starter. As a wing from the NW Portland seems like a good fit, and he would be better than any of our current bench players. Is he a sexy pickup, no, but he's a solid pickup that fills a need. Then you can trade wright and a filler for a player another position, maybe a PG.

2nd String
CJ, Barton, Marvin, Thomas, Freeland
 
Schilly said:
BTW the reason I say Williams, is most of the guys people in here are proposing made MORE than MLE last year, and their teams are worried about being able to match offers to keep them. Examples being Gortat, Deng, Lowry. Others are already primary starters for their teams. Marvin is going to be 28 and looks like a legit rotational bench guy. He doesn't look like the kind of player many teams are going to spend big on to be a starter. As a wing from the NW Portland seems like a good fit, and he would be better than any of our current bench players. Is he a sexy pickup, no, but he's a solid pickup that fills a need. Then you can trade wright and a filler for a player another position, maybe a PG.

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CJ, Barton, Marvin, Thomas, Freeland
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Williams is a realistic idea, and may be the type of veteran who moves the Blazers closer to the Spurs. The ideas for Lowry/Gortat/Deng and even Vasquez seem like pipedreams to me. I can't see a scenario where Toronto wouldn't match a MLE offer from Portland for Vasquez, and the worst part is that takes the Blazers off the market in terms of the MLE for 3 days while Toronto plays it out to the end. Lowry isn't going to take the MLE to play 24 minutes/game, and as noted, Deng will be looking for a payday.

Best bet is to go for a UFA with some skills, make that signing, then explore trades if none were made during the draft. Tying up the MLE on a RFA just seems dumb to me for a halfway decent player.
 
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I'd trade everything necessary to land K Love outside of Lamarcus/Dame and maybe Wes.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You think Love and Lamarcus would be able to co-exist?
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I don't think our defense with them on the court together would be all that good, but I think they can co-exist on the offensive end just fine.
 
RR7 said:
I don't think our defense with them on the court together would be all that good, but I think they can co-exist on the offensive end just fine.
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Then why not save $50 million and get ahold of Channing Frye?

They had the same 2P FG% (50.9 vs 50.2), the same 3P FG% (37.0 vs 37.6), the same FT% (82.1 for both), but Channing blocks at twice the rate Love does, and costs $7 million a year instead of $15 million a year. He's half the player for half the cost.
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
You think Love and Lamarcus would be able to co-exist?
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Sure. If Love is willing to "play" center on defense, because LMA is a little bitch when it comes to that. Otherwise, why wouldn't they be able to coexist? Wouldn't be able to double team either of them, whoever has the better matchup is the man for that game. Love is a pretty solid passer, have a nice high low combo like Gasol/Z-Bo.

Obviously people would have to sacrifice some numbers, but thats how you win championships.

Yeah our defense would be pretty questionable, but it would be pretty damn hard to matchup with Love/Aldridge/?? (assuming Batum would be the centerpiece)/Wes/Dame, would be a real matchup nightmare. And we'd still eat up rebounds. Also, our defense was not all that great this year, anyway.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Channing Frye is no where near the player Love is, rebounding, shooting, passing, or otherwise.

Is Channing Frye a damn near 28 PER player? Nope.
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There is only one ball. Frye doesn't need to be the number one option to be half the player Love is. Love needs the ball A LOT to be the player Love is.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Sure. If Love is willing to "play" center on defense, because LMA is a little bitch when it comes to that. Otherwise, why wouldn't they be able to coexist? Wouldn't be able to double team either of them, whoever has the better matchup is the man for that game. Love is a pretty solid passer, have a nice high low combo like Gasol/Z-Bo.

Obviously people would have to sacrifice some numbers, but thats how you win championships.

Yeah our defense would be pretty questionable, but it would be pretty damn hard to matchup with Love/Aldridge/?? (assuming Batum would be the centerpiece)/Wes/Dame, would be a real matchup nightmare. And we'd still eat up rebounds. Also, our defense was not all that great this year, anyway.
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Batum can't be traded to Minny it's part of all matched RFA contracts
 
If there was no salary cap then a Love -LMA duo would be great to explore. But because the number of players on each team who make over 15 million a year is somewhat limited, I think you need to select them strategically. Dame will be one, LMA will be another, and if you have a third I think it needs to be someone who offers a skill set completely different than the other two. Preferably a excellent center, SG or SF.

Sure Love and LMA would be a nice luxury, but if we are targeting a third star for this team and we can come up with that much cap space, ....is that really the best combo we want?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
If there was no salary cap then a Love -LMA duo would be great to explore. But because the number of players on each team who make over 15 million a year is somewhat limited, I think you need to select them strategically. Dame will be one, LMA will be another, and if you have a third I think it needs to be someone who offers a skill set completely different than the other two. Preferably a excellent center, SG or SF.

Sure Love and LMA would be a nice luxury, but if we are targeting a third star for this team and we can come up with that much cap space, ....is that really the best combo we want?
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Nope.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
If there was no salary cap then a Love -LMA duo would be great to explore. But because the number of players on each team who make over 15 million a year is somewhat limited, I think you need to select them strategically. Dame will be one, LMA will be another, and if you have a third I think it needs to be someone who offers a skill set completely different than the other two. Preferably a excellent center, SG or SF.

Sure Love and LMA would be a nice luxury, but if we are targeting a third star for this team and we can come up with that much cap space, ....is that really the best combo we want?
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Can you think of another available STAR? It's all about having star players in this league. Find me another available star and I'd be willing to look at other possibilities. Also, Kevin Love is one of the best players EVER (according to PER) to be traded (if he is).
 
BlazerCaravan said:
There is only one ball. Frye doesn't need to be the number one option to be half the player Love is. Love needs the ball A LOT to be the player Love is.
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Id say it's worked out pretty well for the Heat, decently well for the Grizzlies and Thunder
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Id say it's worked out pretty well for the Heat, decently well for the Grizzlies and Thunder
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I'm not sure where you're at, or what you're trying to say. We have an A and a B. Love is not a C, and LaMarcus isn't either. If you wanna trade LA for love, go for it, but we've had an undersized rebounding center who can't play defense or block shots. It was a 33 win season.

I don't want Love, but a player like Love who doesn't have to be Love is a good idea.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I'm not sure where you're at, or what you're trying to say. We have an A and a B. Love is not a C, and LaMarcus isn't either. If you wanna trade LA for love, go for it, but we've had an undersized rebounding center who can't play defense or block shots. It was a 33 win season.

I don't want Love, but a player like Love who doesn't have to be Love is a good idea.
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I think his point was roughly, Bosh wasn't a C either. Small sacrifices from everyone meant wins.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I'm not sure where you're at, or what you're trying to say. We have an A and a B. Love is not a C, and LaMarcus isn't either. If you wanna trade LA for love, go for it, but we've had an undersized rebounding center who can't play defense or block shots. It was a 33 win season.

I don't want Love, but a player like Love who doesn't have to be Love is a good idea.
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Did you really just compare JJ Hickson to Kevin Love?

Uh...I'm not really sure what to say to that idea.

Bosh/LeBron/Wade there is no true "C" option either. Bosh accepted his role as a C option and they've won 2 championships because of it. Bosh is also undersized and not a true C, what gives?

Also, the idea that players cannot adapt to a new setting is insane.

Anyway, I'd rather have two A's and a B, like the Heat, then an A-B-C anyway. Of course, this is continent on them being willing to sacrifice to win a championship.

Edit: I'm not worried about having a true center if our replacement is as good of a player as Love. It's pretty much what the heat do --- make the other teams adjust to how they play, but still have the option to go "big" if they NEED to. I'd rather have the 3 best players on the court than not.
 
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RR7 said:
I think his point was roughly, Bosh wasn't a C either. Small sacrifices from everyone meant wins.
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Yup. Bosh sacrificed. Ibaka has sacrificed his game. Marc gasol has sacrificed his numbers for Z-Bo/Mike Conley. If you're going to have a 3 headed monster, someone HAS to sacrifice.
 
I mean, all this being said, there's no way we land him with Dame and LMA off the table. They'd get much better offers. So it's not an argument from me on whether we can realistically do it, but more would I. ANd I'd absolutely add him to the team. OKC had 2 players in Durant and Westbrook with USG%s in the 30s, and had Harden at 22, all getting over 30 minutes a night. Dame at 25, LMA and Love both at 29ish could find a way to make it work with just one ball.
 
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