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Gronk Brady said:
Gallinari is about as good as you can ask for when trading Evan Turner... he would be a great fit in Stotts system and his 3pt percentage would go up for sure
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He can't even move anymore. He's about to turn 30 and is a shell of what he used to be. He's played in less than half of the games over the past 5 years. How is that a good fit?
 
hoopsjock said:
He's got a career 41.9% FG% and is bad on defense. That isn't exactly what this team needs.
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That percentage is skewed because he’s been relied on to carry his teams offensively. He’s played on some bad offensive units where he was the primary option. He is an excellent free throw shooter and has had enough seasons with great percentages to suggest he would improve his efficiency with lower usage. Hed be a great addition, just like Mirotic would’ve been. I’d rather spend $6m on Gallinari, injuries and all, than $30m or whatever on a TPE guy.
 
I have to question those who say Gallinari would be a good fit to this team....
 
hoopsjock said:
He can't even move anymore. He's about to turn 30 and is a shell of what he used to be. He's played in less than half of the games over the past 5 years. How is that a good fit?
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He had a PER of 19 and 17 the two seasons before this past one, playing 30+ minutes a night. I don’t think he’s done at all.
 
Scalma said:
He had a PER of 19 and 17 the two seasons before this past one, playing 30+ minutes a night. I don’t think he’s done at all.
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Did you watch him play at all last year? It was painful for me just to watch him try to move up and down the court. The guy is shot. I wouldn't mind trading Turner for him but WE better be the ones getting something thrown in, not the other way around.
 
hoopsjock said:
He can't even move anymore. He's about to turn 30 and is a shell of what he used to be. He's played in less than half of the games over the past 5 years. How is that a good fit?
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Even if Gallo doesn't play, it good old addition by subtraction.
 
hoopsjock said:
True, except the added salary over the next two years. I just don't think we should have to give up something to take him on.
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Me neither, no disagreement on that score.

It has been explained to me that Turner's advanced stats are so bad, that it would be much better if he simply were off the team.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Gallinari is about as good as you can ask for when trading Evan Turner... he would be a great fit in Stotts system and his 3pt percentage would go up for sure
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Gallinari is constructed of some pretty brittle material. ET is one of my least favorite Blazers of all time, but I have a feeling Gallinari might be even worse.
 
hoopsjock said:
Please enlighten us why Baldwin would be cut? You have nothing to base this stupid theory on.
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Lol I've been saying it since that Interview from Neil during the Summer League game: he wants ET the primary ballhandler in the 2nd Unit, surround him with shooters, we have already 5-6 guards. Thats my theory why Baldwin get's cut. When Neil said he want's Zach closer to the Basket, from that moment i knew Ed will Go, and that's what happened. Just my oppionion
 
Labinot41 said:
Lol I've been saying it since that Interview from Neil during the Summer League game: he wants ET the primary ballhandler in the 2nd Unit, surround him with shooters, we have already 5-6 guards. Thats my theory why Baldwin get's cut. When Neil said he want's Zach closer to the Basket, from that moment i knew Ed will Go, and that's what happened. Just my oppionion
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I think someone else goes before Baldwin. I get your point. It adds up, but remember... Neil Olshey....
 
Labinot41 said:
Lol I've been saying it since that Interview from Neil during the Summer League game: he wants ET the primary ballhandler in the 2nd Unit, surround him with shooters, we have already 5-6 guards. Thats my theory why Baldwin get's cut. When Neil said he want's Zach closer to the Basket, from that moment i knew Ed will Go, and that's what happened. Just my oppionion
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I would be pretty surprised, after nurturing Baldwin along, if we simply cut him. My dream is that Olshey is talking ET up to gaslight the rest of the league into thinking he's not as bad as he is and then BAM! a trade! Then Wade gets his minutes, and the rookies get some run or maybe Nik. In reality, Wade and Curry will probably get the Shabazz/Pat minutes with a second-team lineup of Curry, Wade, and ET with two bigs playing simultaneously.
 
Looking at the clippers depth chart

They have Wesley Johnson and Dekker at SF.

Tobias, newly signed Mike Scott, Mbah a Moute, and Gallinari at PF.

Their backcourt is also very undersized.

There’s a match there imo.
 
Scalma said:
Looking at the clippers depth chart

They have Wesley Johnson and Dekker at SF.

Tobias, newly signed Mike Scott, Mbah a Moute, and Gallinari at PF.

Their backcourt is also very undersized.

There’s a match there imo.
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Wonder what Jerry is doing.

They have Gallo and Lou Will along with their picks for 2019. That's it.
 
hoopsjock said:
True, except the added salary over the next two years. I just don't think we should have to give up something to take him on.
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Absolutely, looking at their salaries:
Gallo: 21.5, 22.5
Turner: 17.9, 18.6
(Biebs: 10.6, 11.3)

There's no way I take on the extra salary. Now, if they take Biebs, too, I might be more interested. For example,
Turner + Biebs for Gallo
would save us salary immediately (not sure if it's legal cap-wise, though)

Turner + Biebs for Gallo and Wesley Johnson ($6.1, $0) + 2nd rounder
wouldn't save us $$$ this year, but would save us $7.5M next year with Johnson off the ledger!
 
Scalma said:
Even last year in an injury plagued down season, He posted a higher PER than Turner ever has in his CAREER.
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That may be so, but PER only measure offensive contribution. Gallinari is not remotely as good on defense as Turner. I'm not saying we shouldn't do the swap, but I would rather take on Tristan or someone that can play some defense.
 
Scalma said:
Looking at the clippers depth chart

They have Wesley Johnson and Dekker at SF.

Tobias, newly signed Mike Scott, Mbah a Moute, and Gallinari at PF.

Their backcourt is also very undersized.

There’s a match there imo.
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Stop this Shit, right now.... you're getting my hopes up!
 
Reep said:
That may be so, but PER only measure offensive contribution. Gallinari is not remotely as good on defense as Turner. I'm not saying we shouldn't do the swap, but I would rather take on Tristan or someone that can play some defense.
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Tristan can’t shoot, no way would Portland be interested. They could’ve just kept Davis.
 
Scalma said:
Tristan can’t shoot, no way would Portland be interested. They could’ve just kept Davis.
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Sigh . . . that isn't the point. I thought we were discussing who we could swap Turner for. If you keep Turner, then you need to have four people around him that can shoot. If you trade Turner, you can afford to take back either a shooter or non-shooter. IF, we are moving Turner, who is a good defensive player, I would rather replace him with another good defensive player who can score, but cannot shoot, rather than a player who is poor defensively, likes to shoot, but isn't very efficient.

Again, YES, I would rather have ET gone and have kept Ed, but that isn't/wasn't an option.
 
Reep said:
Sigh . . . that isn't the point. I thought we were discussing who we could swap Turner for. If you keep Turner, then you need to have four people around him that can shoot. If you trade Turner, you can afford to take back either a shooter or non-shooter. IF, we are moving Turner, who is a good defensive player, I would rather replace him with another good defensive player who can score, but cannot shoot, rather than a player who is poor defensively, likes to shoot, but isn't very efficient.

Again, YES, I would rather have ET gone and have kept Ed, but that isn't/wasn't an option.
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@Scalma and I completely understand your point and agree with it!!!!

But...........
All of us view Turner as a net negative asset. Olshey doesn't. Trading Turner to get Ed Davis back doesn't make sense if you think Turner has value.

The only way Turner is traded is if our trade partnet agrees that Turner is a net positive, and accords us value appropriate for that assumption. Unfortunately, that is, IMHO, unlikely to occur.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
@Scalma and I completely understand your point and agree with it!!!!

But...........
All of us view Turner as a net negative asset. Olshey doesn't. Trading Turner to get Ed Davis back doesn't make sense if you think Turner has value.

The only way Turner is traded is if our trade partnet agrees that Turner is a net positive, and accords us value appropriate for that assumption. Unfortunately, that is, IMHO, unlikely to occur.
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More than likely they will have to wait a year so it is an expiring contract. It could come in handy. Probably won't, but in theory we need a large expiring contract if we ever do make a trade for a disgruntled vet. We certainty could not send 6 young players out for one vet.

In the mean time use him right. Have him guard the best wing off the opponents bench and allow him to be the 2nd or 3rd ball handler with the 2nd unit. Just don't use him as a PG. Minimize his 3 pt attempts and let him attack the basket.

ET is a decent player if used right. His contract is an issue but by next summer it could be an asset. We always need wing defenders. He might not be an all league defender but he is still one of the better ones on our team.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
@Scalma
All of us view Turner as a net negative asset. Olshey doesn't.
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I hear what you are saying, but I'm not sure Olshey doesn't think ET is a negative. What Olshey says publicly is likely not what he believes. Either Olshey really believes ET can be the key to the second unit, OR, Olshey is talking about it a lot hoping to drive up ET's trade value. I cannot see that there is any way to tell which it really is, but I believe Olshey sees the same things we all do and is just trying to make ET marketable.
 
I believe Olshey knows talent. He isn't the best at everything, but I think he knows talent.

He also knows how to play the media and hold his cards tight. IT wouldn't surprise me in the least if he believes the exact opposite and knows he needs ot move him asap t save this team. He casnt come out and say that though.
 
It sounds like we were interested in someone like Lee for trade exception but because we got Trent, Curry and Simons this is no longer needed. Happy with that.

We probably won’t use the Crabbe TPE and I am fine with that. He’s right to point the real cost of it and yes, I know this is Paul Allen’s money but it still makes no sense to spend $40million or so on an average player.

I wonder what the lopsided trade would be. Hope we are interested in someone like Otto Porter.
 
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