Olshey press confernce

[Natebishop3]

Oh thats rich Pot Kettle Black.

To be fair, that's Canzano's job. He's paid to be controversial. He's paid to get clicks/views etc.

Olshey isn't paid to be a tool. He just seems to do it free of charge.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Pick one:
1. DJJ was a solid FA signing and Stotts is a shitty coach because he didn't use him right
2. DJJ was a shitty signing and Stotts pissed Olshey off because he decided he couldn't afford to play him any more just to please Olshey

I know which one I believe.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Olshey never tires of self-marketing. Just keep telling everyone how great you are and enough people will believe it. (Not mentioning any names....)

He learned that from me!

 

[Graduate32]

Pick one:
1. DJJ was a solid FA signing and Stotts is a shitty coach because he didn't use him right
2. DJJ was a shitty signing and Stotts pissed Olshey off because he decided he couldn't afford to play him any more just to please Olshey

I know which one I believe.

Why does it have to be one or the other? Can't DJJ have been a gamble that didn't work out as hoped in part due to his skill level and in part due to how he was used? Why does it have to be one or other?

 

[Hoopguru]

Stott's didnt play DJJ because he wanted to save his job.

 

[blazerkor]

• Massively overpaying (for too many years as well) in 2016 - Olshey
• Butchering the 2017 Draft - Olshey
• Having the 26-29th ranked defense and 15 of 16 in the Playoffs - Stotts (regardless of the roster construction)

They both need to go and CJ needs to be moved for an asset that better fits with Dame and Powell can move back to SG.

So 1 of 3 things are gone. Doubt Olshey gets moved. 'Maybe' CJ gets moved. It just doesn't seem like enough will be done.

If CJ and non starting assets can be moved for a player that combined with keeping Norm and getting him back to his natural position, improves our roster... and we get a coach that emphasizes defense and accountability; that should be enough to make this team a lot better than what we just saw. Not to go to crazy about this because it's not that big of a deal but if Zach is healthy enough that we can use our MLE on a backup PG instead of having to worry about a big, that would be an improvement as well.

A new coach who actually coaches coaching: Dame, Norm, RoCo, Siakam, Nurk, DJ, Ant, Zach, MLE PG (in this scenario Toronto required Nas in the Siakam deal) and a bunch of GLeaguers and undrafted free agents would be able to make a run.

 

[James lamphear]

I just watch the interview the none of starting players that is sign will not be traded. Hopefully can get Powell sign. None of the rotation players for next year include Zach Simons Little I think there safe for next year. Watch for trade with DJJ if he opt-in and don't be surprised if Melo wants to come back they sign to min again. Coaches search I don't see Billups be in final contention just by his back ground ground.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Why does it have to be one or the other? Can't DJJ have been a gamble that didn't work out as hoped in part due to his skill level and in part due to how he was used? Why does it have to be one or other?

Yes, of course nothing is absolute. But DJJ reminds me of Outlaw - phenomenal jump athlete, not exactly fast laterally, and not a great BBIQ. We'll always have this, though:

 

[Natebishop3]

Pick one:
1. DJJ was a solid FA signing and Stotts is a shitty coach because he didn't use him right
2. DJJ was a shitty signing and Stotts pissed Olshey off because he decided he couldn't afford to play him any more just to please Olshey

I know which one I believe.

3. Stottts is a shitty coach and Neil should have known that, so it was a shitty signing.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Pick one:
1. DJJ was a solid FA signing and Stotts is a shitty coach because he didn't use him right
2. DJJ was a shitty signing and Stotts pissed Olshey off because he decided he couldn't afford to play him any more just to please Olshey

I know which one I believe.

It’s neither, but of the two I pick #2

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

My take from this was NO took zero responsibility and is delusional. If we were such an elite scoring team, why could we still not outscore a team with two of its best four players injured? I am not sure any coach is going to be thrilled with having their hands tied with a CJ/Dame backcourt. NO still thinks running the best players out on the court regardless of position is going to work best and is something the coach is supposed to figure out.

Looking like we are in for three more years of excuses.

 

[blazerkor]

Yes, of course nothing is absolute. But DJJ reminds me of Outlaw - phenomenal jump athlete, not exactly fast laterally, and not a great BBIQ. We'll always have this, though:

I don't think that DJ was a good signing because Olshey should have known that Stotts wouldn't use him correctly but I think DJ is a great value at just under 10M per season. The guy finishes around the hole and plays intense disrupting defense whenever he's given the chance. When he's given regular playing time he gets his shot good enough to punish teams that just let him shoot wide open threes. For the MLE, I don't know what more you could want, especially if your team ran a lot of off the ball movement on offense.

There is also the fact that he was first on the team for winning percentage as a starter. It still blows my mind that the roster fit together so poorly and Stotts coached them so bad that we had a worse record this year with CJ playing than when he didn't, with Nurk playing than when he didn't and with Norm playing than when he didn't (the Norm thing isn't as mind blowing because you trade his production for Gary's). I don't give a shit about strength of schedule that does not explain this phenomenon. Someone should have asked Olshey about this shit.

 

[riverman]

My take from this was NO took zero responsibility and is delusional. If we were such an elite scoring team, why could we still not outscore a team with two of its best four players injured? I am not sure any coach is going to be thrilled with having their hands tied with a CJ/Dame backcourt. NO still thinks running the best players out on the court regardless of position is going to work best and is something the coach is supposed to figure out.

Looking like we are in for three more years of excuses.

Actually Neil did say about drafting he'd had some big hits and misses...first time I've heard him say he made draft mistakes...(Caleb Swanigan being the last really big bust) Every GM trying to sign players and attract them to their team is going to have excuses for losing....they are there to sell the Blazer swagger, not be tentative or overly critical.

 

[JoshuaHall]

So why did Spoelstra play DJJ in the regular season, then? He consciously made the decision that, while it was fine to play him in the regular season, he shouldn't be on the floor in the playoffs. And we knew this when Olshey signed him. And, what a surprise, same thing happens.

Kendrick Nunn also got benched.
They also had injuries.

 

[wizenheimer]

If that's what you think, that's fine but the entire national media, including guys who were in front offices last season and will be next season, say that about CJ. One series isn't going to change that and efficiency that you're pointing out has always been there hasn't changed that. So you're not arguing with me, you're arguing with the popular opinion around the league. The one thing that doesn't get talked about often (I hear it mentioned nationally every once in a while) that I think is talked about in front offices is that Dame takes away from what CJ could be.

I don't like CJ next to Dame, I think that's a horrible combination on the floor but that doesn't blind me to the fact that besides getting to the free throw line CJ scores in every way a player can and he does it well. When you said his eFG% wasn't elite that was obviously misleading. His is ahead of Devin Booker, Brandon Ingram, Khris Middleton this season and right behind Luka for fucks sake. Next to Dame... no thanks. Next to a guard who can cover up his lack of defense... the guy is a great guy to have on your team.

I think I just have a higher standard for the word "elite". To me that would be in the top-10 or top 15 in the league

 

[Cugel]

NO isn't delusional he is just blowing smoke to make himself look good. By his comments today I would say that next year is the same outcome as this year. He will just sign an Otto Porter level forward and say that is all it will take for a ring. This roster needs more changes than not. He is an awful GM. Dame could well demand a trade. He should be pissed after this latest display from the front office. The owner would need to commit to going into the luxury tax to keep Dame and give him a REAL shot at a deep playoff run.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Dont be fooled by the Canzano article. This is a guy who doesn’t even like Dame. There’s a reason he’s never been on his show.

I think ever since Dame rookie year when he had that one situation happen outside of a nightclub here. Canzano predicted he’d be a off court distraction he can’t help be pissed that never came true

 

[wizenheimer]

Olshey obviously knew that many were putting lots of blame onto him for Portland's issues

so after years of praising Stotts as a coach and friend and quality guy, Olshey's instinct when the heat is on is to not only throw Stotts under the bus, but to drive back and forth repeatedly over Stotts afterwards.

asshole

 

[Mr. Robot]

 

[blazerkor]

NO isn't delusional he is just blowing smoke to make himself look good. By his comments today I would say that next year is the same outcome as this year. He will just sign an Otto Porter level forward and say that is all it will take for a ring. This roster needs more changes than not. He is an awful GM. Dame could well demand a trade. He should be pissed after this latest display from the front office. The owner would need to commit to going into the luxury tax to keep Dame and give him a REAL shot at a deep playoff run.

What you're saying is very possible but I've never heard Olshey say that Dame needs another superstar like he did in this press conference... he didn't say he'd get him one he just said that it was something he needed. He changed his tune about CJ being that superstar and grouped him in with the rest of the team who in Neil's words are all on the table as far as being tradeable. So maybe I'm being naive but I really think there's a great chance that we see a lot of movement on draft night and CJ could very well be involved. Neil even said that he was waiting until all of the GMs are together at the draft combine to start fielding offers or figuring that stuff out.

I think we'll have a coach by draft night and I think there will be a mission to build a better roster and especially get a player who is a better fit as a second option next to Dame.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Oh thats rich Pot Kettle Black.

It takes a pompous ass to know one.

 

[B-Roy]

NO isn't delusional he is just blowing smoke to make himself look good. By his comments today I would say that next year is the same outcome as this year. He will just sign an Otto Porter level forward and say that is all it will take for a ring. This roster needs more changes than not. He is an awful GM. Dame could well demand a trade. He should be pissed after this latest display from the front office. The owner would need to commit to going into the luxury tax to keep Dame and give him a REAL shot at a deep playoff run.

If we fall flat next year, it will almost certainly necessitate a Dame trade. Both RoCo and Nurk are expiring, which will leave the team with CJ, Dame, and nothing else to improve the roster with.

 

[blazerkor]

If we fall flat next year, it will almost certainly necessitate a Dame trade. Both RoCo and Nurk are expiring, which will leave the team with CJ, Dame, and nothing else to improve the roster with.

Yeah, at that point if Dame demands a trade we'll go into full on youth rebuild mode. I'm just really hoping that we won't be left with CJ because Neil has the good sense to move him this off season.

 

[wizenheimer]

It takes a pompous ass to know one.

says you

j/k mr hound

 

[tester551]

I REALLY wish someone would have asked him about NOT having a backup PG this season & if he'll look to sign on in the off-season. The team fell apart all year long when Dame sat.

 

[B-Roy]

Yeah, at that point if Dame demands a trade we'll go into full on youth rebuild mode. I'm just really hoping that we won't be left with CJ because Neil has the good sense to move him this off season.

 

[wizenheimer]

Yeah, at that point if Dame demands a trade we'll go into full on youth rebuild mode. I'm just really hoping that we won't be left with CJ because Neil has the good sense to move him this off season.

I hope you are right in your belief that Olshey has FINALLY seen the light. Admittedly, my opinion of Olshey couldn't be much lower so I don't share that belief obviously. If he had the qualities necessary to see the light and change his attitude he wouldn't have spent that news conference repeatedly stabbing Stotts in the back. That was one sorry spectacle

but absolutely my biggest fear is that Olshey ends up trading Dame and keeping CJ around so he can elevate CJ up on an alter of 28 shots a game. That would also insure Portland had a string of lottery picks that Olshey could fuck up

 

[B-Roy]

I hope you are right in your belief that Olshey has FINALLY seen the light. Admittedly, my opinion of Olshey couldn't be much lower so I don't share that belief obviously. If he had the qualities necessary to see the light and change his attitude he wouldn't have spent that news conference repeatedly stabbing Stotts in the back. That was one sorry spectacle

but absolutely my biggest fear is that Olshey ends up trading Dame and keeping CJ around so he can elevate CJ up on an alter of 28 shots a game. That would also insure Portland had a string of lottery picks that Olshey could fuck up

Counterpoint: If he traded Dame and CJ ran the show for a year it may boost his value enough to actually be tradable.

 

[LayneStaley]

Neil sounds like the dbag I’ve been accusing him of being for the past 4 seasons. If I’m Lillard I’d demand a trade after that presser. They have to get rid of CJ imo, coaching should help some but the roster is currently broken.

 

[blazerkor]

I hope you are right in your belief that Olshey has FINALLY seen the light. Admittedly, my opinion of Olshey couldn't be much lower so I don't share that belief obviously. If he had the qualities necessary to see the light and change his attitude he wouldn't have spent that news conference repeatedly stabbing Stotts in the back. That was one sorry spectacle

but absolutely my biggest fear is that Olshey ends up trading Dame and keeping CJ around so he can elevate CJ up on an alter of 28 shots a game. That would also insure Portland had a string of lottery picks that Olshey could fuck up

Whew! That's some bleak stuff. Let's hope the subtle things said today that put CJ in a completely different light than Neil had put him in the past, are a sign that what you just said would never happen... if Olshey did trade Dame and keep CJ I would expect him to be trying to remain competitive so he would still likely get a first option and leave CJ as the second option and Neil better be able to prove that Dame asked for the trade.