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I’m a little scared because if this happens (a lot of dominoes fall), I don’t know if I have faith in McGowan and Jody Allen to hire the right people.

it’s exciting but terrifying too, we are literally hanging on a thread as a relevant nba team. The wrong hire could turn us into the Timberwolves in KGs post WCF years.
 
Didn't like the fit with Bam because he was too similar to Vonleh :breakdance:

Really enjoyed watching Bam at Kentucky though and Miami has gotten the most out of him. With Nurk around I don't think he's empowered as much as a playmaker which is where he brings a lot of his value.

But what's done is done. Still have a lot belief in Zach. Think he can end up a top 10 player out of his draft class with a few healthy seasons and more time at the 5.
 
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spreading mediocrity through the land.
THE HCP said:
Channing Frye for GM!

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can recruit and hire his son Erik to coach. was our gm 86-89
he drafted sabonis! and uncle cliffy! and drazen!
 
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JDC said:
But what's done is done. Still have a lot belief in Zach. Think he can end up a top 10 player out of his draft class with a few healthy seasons and more time at the 5.
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top 10?

Markelle Fultz
Lonzo Ball
Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
De'Aaron Fox
Jonathan Isaac
Lauri Markkanen
Malik Monk
Luke Kennard
Donovan Mitchell
Bam Adebayo
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
OG Anunoby
Kyle Kuzma
Derrick White
Josh Hart
Thomas Bryant
Dillon Brooks
Monte Morris

he'll have to pass more than half that list, and right now, he's behind just about all of them. Meanwhile, while the timer for Zach's potential to arrive ticks away, so does the timer for Dame's prime
 
wizenheimer said:
top 10?

Markelle Fultz
Lonzo Ball
Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
De'Aaron Fox
Jonathan Isaac
Lauri Markkanen
Malik Monk
Luke Kennard
Donovan Mitchell
Bam Adebayo
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
OG Anunoby
Kyle Kuzma
Derrick White
Josh Hart
Thomas Bryant
Dillon Brooks
Monte Morris

he'll have to pass more than half that list, and right now, he's behind just about all of them. Meanwhile, while the timer for Zach's potential to arrive ticks away, so does the timer for Dame's prime
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Call me crazy but in terms of helping a team win, there's only 5-6 guys on that list I'd rather have than Zach.

Do think the fit and opportunity might not be there for him with this team though.
 
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wizenheimer said:
top 10?

Markelle Fultz
Lonzo Ball
Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
De'Aaron Fox
Jonathan Isaac
Lauri Markkanen
Malik Monk
Luke Kennard
Donovan Mitchell
Bam Adebayo
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
OG Anunoby
Kyle Kuzma
Derrick White
Josh Hart
Thomas Bryant
Dillon Brooks
Monte Morris

he'll have to pass more than half that list, and right now, he's behind just about all of them. Meanwhile, while the timer for Zach's potential to arrive ticks away, so does the timer for Dame's prime
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Really? Josh Jackson? And either Jonathan Isaac is worse than Zach because he never plays, or we're not allowed to hold Zach's injuries against him - pick one.
 
THE HCP said:
I STILL can't find your post in the 2017 NBA DRAFT THREAD about how upset you were with that pick. Still looking.......standby......
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Still waiting for an explanation why a fan on a message board is expected to be better informed than a highly paid NBA GM.
 
THE HCP said:
I STILL can't find your post in the 2017 NBA DRAFT THREAD about how upset you were with that pick. Still looking.......standby......
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Thats not my job. I don’t get paid multi millions to evaluate players with a scouting team behind me. That’s your “gm bros” job
 
wizenheimer said:
top 10?

Markelle Fultz
Lonzo Ball
Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
De'Aaron Fox
Jonathan Isaac
Lauri Markkanen
Malik Monk
Luke Kennard
Donovan Mitchell
Bam Adebayo
John Collins
Jarrett Allen
OG Anunoby
Kyle Kuzma
Derrick White
Josh Hart
Thomas Bryant
Dillon Brooks
Monte Morris

he'll have to pass more than half that list, and right now, he's behind just about all of them. Meanwhile, while the timer for Zach's potential to arrive ticks away, so does the timer for Dame's prime
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He sucks. Even when he’s healthy he isn’t anything special. Fans tend to love his defense but it wasn’t All-Defense or anything. You coulda got that with Bam Abedeyo who was named all defensive team. Fuck Neil Olshey
 
GhostOfPGA said:
I’m a little scared because if this happens (a lot of dominoes fall), I don’t know if I have faith in McGowan and Jody Allen to hire the right people.

it’s exciting but terrifying too, we are literally hanging on a thread as a relevant nba team. The wrong hire could turn us into the Timberwolves in KGs post WCF years.
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Bert Koldie will be instrumental in any change.
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
Really? Josh Jackson? And either Jonathan Isaac is worse than Zach because he never plays, or we're not allowed to hold Zach's injuries against him - pick one.
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jackson I'll give ya

but, I'll 'pick door #3 - Issac has played 136 games; Zach has played 154. That's an insignificant difference that means both have missed a lot of games, and when they have played:

PER: Zach 10.8....Issac 13.7
TS%: Zach .528....Issac .532
Reb%: Zach 12.2%....Issac 11.4%
Steal%: Zach 0.9%....Issac 2.0%
Block%: Zach 3.1%....Issac 5.0%
winshares/48: Zach .069....Issac .091
DefWinshares: Zach 3.0....Issac 5.8
DefBPM: Zach +0.1....Issac +1.8
DefRating: Zach 109....Issac 105
BPM: Zach -2.6....Issac +0.2
Value Over Replacement: Zach -0.4....Issac +2.0

basically they are both disappointments compared to their draft slots. But Zach's only advantage, and it's a small one, is he's a slightly better rebounder. But both have anemic rebounding rates for their length & roles. And, Issac has better defensive numbers than Zach, which is supposed to be Zach's strength.
 
wizenheimer said:
jackson I'll give ya

but, I'll 'pick door #3 - Issac has played 136 games; Zach has played 154. That's an insignificant difference that means both have missed a lot of games, and when they have played:

PER: Zach 10.8....Issac 13.7
TS%: Zach .528....Issac .532
Reb%: Zach 12.2%....Issac 11.4%
Steal%: Zach 0.9%....Issac 2.0%
Block%: Zach 3.1%....Issac 5.0%
winshares/48: Zach .069....Issac .091
DefWinshares: Zach 3.0....Issac 5.8
DefBPM: Zach +0.1....Issac +1.8
DefRating: Zach 109....Issac 105
BPM: Zach -2.6....Issac +0.2
Value Over Replacement: Zach -0.4....Issac +2.0

basically they are both disappointments compared to their draft slots. But Zach's only advantage, and it's a small one, is he's a slightly better rebounder. But both have anemic rebounding rates for their length & roles. And, Issac has better defensive numbers than Zach, which is supposed to be Zach's strength.
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Well Isaac had his breakout this season, but unfortunately he got injured. He had a phenomenal impact on the court defensively and improved his shooting as well.
 
wizenheimer said:
jackson I'll give ya

but, I'll 'pick door #3 - Issac has played 136 games; Zach has played 154. That's an insignificant difference that means both have missed a lot of games, and when they have played:

PER: Zach 10.8....Issac 13.7
TS%: Zach .528....Issac .532
Reb%: Zach 12.2%....Issac 11.4%
Steal%: Zach 0.9%....Issac 2.0%
Block%: Zach 3.1%....Issac 5.0%
winshares/48: Zach .069....Issac .091
DefWinshares: Zach 3.0....Issac 5.8
DefBPM: Zach +0.1....Issac +1.8
DefRating: Zach 109....Issac 105
BPM: Zach -2.6....Issac +0.2
Value Over Replacement: Zach -0.4....Issac +2.0

basically they are both disappointments compared to their draft slots. But Zach's only advantage, and it's a small one, is he's a slightly better rebounder. But both have anemic rebounding rates for their length & roles. And, Issac has better defensive numbers than Zach, which is supposed to be Zach's strength.
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might the fact that orlando has been a boardline top 10 defensive team 3 years running in respect to team defensive rating have an impact on issac's numbers vs. collins'? clifford is known as a defensive coach. the TS% difference is only .004.
 
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