On Carmelo Anthony's final act in New York, and why the Blazers should be his next team

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Ok sure "common sense" says all-star caliber players are bad for teams, got it.

I'll go ahead and answer your questions anyways

Not that I necessarily agree with the notion of having a 'number one option' or whatever but from the teams perspective it'd probably look like this
1a dame
1b cj
2a melo
2b nurk
5-13 everyone else is a role player

Plenty of teams have been able to stop 1 of the two which has led to a ton of losses this year (cause we literally had no one else who could score). Even with both of them going and scoring combined 50+ ppg we still would lose games cause dame and cj are effectively the same player. So its easy to load up on them and trap the ball out of their hands. We saw what adding Nurk gave us. A 3rd guy who can semi-reliably put the ball in the hoop, it totally changed the dynamic of the team all of a sudden dame and cj start getting more open looks, shooting a better efficiency, all cause teams cant help off nurkic. Having a 4th guy who can do that? that would be invaluable. I would argue makes us a 53+ win team and puts us realistically in the hunt for the WC finals.

Just imagine for a second if you trade all of AC + Aminu's shots ~ 15-18 spg to melo. THAT is a dynamic offense with 4 guys who could go for 30 on any given night. The three man weave that we love to run would be crazy with the three of them running off nurk and vonleh picks. Moses and the red sea come to mind when thinking about how open the lane will be for nurk rim runs. It's all about the gravity that melo creates as a player. You can leave hark and aminu and honestly crabbe gets left alone a lot too to try and stop dame and cj but you cannot leave melo alone. No more help defenses collapsing the paint, no more doubling the ball out of dame and cj's hands instead we have a 3rd ball handler who can score on anyone, create shots for himself and others and be a respected veteran presence in the locker room. Thats why I think it's a smart basketball move. you can argue all you want about attitude and character and being selfish but I'm not letting that get in the way of adding an allstar albeit an aging one to our roster. Nurk sure worked out fine, why wouldnt melo?

There are so many holes in your faulty theory, where to begin?

First, Melo is on the downhill side of his career. All of his stats this season are below his career average, and heading down. His peak was 2-3 seasons ago.

To imagine trading all of AC and Aminu’s shots to Melo, he would need to come off of the bench. Your analogy is very faulty since you have him starting and probably the third option.

In reality, if he starts for us, almost all of his 15-18 SPG will be taking shots away from Dame, CJ and Nurkic and Harkless. All four of these starters shoot a better FG % than Melo. Melo taking those shots will equal fewer points. This means we lose more games, not win more. There are only so many shots to go around for the starters.

Starting Melo also means we are weaker defensively than if Harkless starts, which will result in more loses.

Melo was a great individual offensive player, but, he does not make the rest of the team better the way great players do.

I do believe Melo would make a great bench player for us, a spark off of the bench. Even though Crabbe is a far more efficient shooter than Melo, Melo can create his own shot when the bench players bog down. We do not need Melo creating shots as a starter, we have one of the best offensive starting 5 in the game. But he could help our bench. I doubt he would come here to be a bench player. Plus Melo makes too much to be a bench player.
 
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I would possibly take Carmelo if he was very cheap and would "buy in" to being the fourth option, but I can't help but feel like he's a Gerald Wallace waiting to happen, like the bottom is about ready to fall out with him.
 
Old fish is right.

Melo would be in a great niche if he accepted a bench role, scorer, offensive rebounder, energy guy.

Would he? No fucking way. He's a big ego and I don't think he's grown up much.
Some guys are just starfucked.
 


I'd take him for some of our garbage and one of the lesser first rounders, I'm sure they'd be all over that.
 


I'd take him for some of our garbage and one of the lesser first rounders, I'm sure they'd be all over that.


No thanks. They could pay Portland to take him and I still wouldn't be down.
 
Old fish is right.

Melo would be in a great niche if he accepted a bench role, scorer, offensive rebounder, energy guy.

Would he? No fucking way. He's a big ego and I don't think he's grown up much.
Some guys are just starfucked.
and he costs something like 27-28 mil a yr and we already have a huge cap dilemma and hes headin downhill at 32
 
The first team that comes to mind are the Clippers. There's going to be a major shakeup and I wouldn't be surprised if they went after Melo as some kind of consolation prize.
 
No thanks. They could pay Portland to take him and I still wouldn't be down.

Whoa, he's gonna be like 33 next season, good point. Didn't realize he was quite that old, he's definitely ready for a Gerald Wallace type drop off soon.
 
I would consider this:

Blazers get Melo and his $26.5M salary.
Knicks get Crabbe ($19.3), Leonard ($9.9) and also include MEM and CLE picks.

Reason I do this is to improve BENCH scoring (I would not start Melo but have him play the Crabbe role), and give us some salary relief (it does).

DL - CJ - Hark - Vonleh - Nurk
Napier - Turner - Melo - Davis - #16 pick (big)
Pat - Jake - Tim (the closers)

Reason Knicks do it is desperation! They get a couple picks and a good scorer for their system.
 
Whoa, he's gonna be like 33 next season, good point. Didn't realize he was quite that old, he's definitely ready for a Gerald Wallace type drop off soon.

Eh, Wallace was a physical freak. He was always going to suffer a HUGE dropoff when that athleticism left him.

Melo was never really built around athleticism. He's a scorer, and I'm sure some of that production will drop off, but he's totally a dude that will have an old man game in his 30s.
 
The first team that comes to mind are the Clippers. There's going to be a major shakeup and I wouldn't be surprised if they went after Melo as some kind of consolation prize.
Clippers are likely option A but I wouldn't be surprised to see CP3 bounce this summer if the Jazz or Warriors/we bounce them early, again. That would change the NBA landscape majorly.

The other team is Boston, I could see them throwing Brown/Smart/Brooklyn pick at New York for Melo, it would be the biggest win now move.
 
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I would consider this:

Blazers get Melo and his $26.5M salary.
Knicks get Crabbe ($19.3), Leonard ($9.9) and also include MEM and CLE picks.

Reason I do this is to improve BENCH scoring (I would not start Melo but have him play the Crabbe role), and give us some salary relief (it does).

DL - CJ - Hark - Vonleh - Nurk
Napier - Turner - Melo - Davis - #16 pick (big)
Pat - Jake - Tim (the closers)

Reason Knicks do it is desperation! They get a couple picks and a good scorer for their system.

I could get behind that trade (I prefer not giving up both picks, but eh), although I think there's no way in hell he accepts coming off the bench.

Even still, though, you start him at power forward and it'll be fine.

It shaves a year off the net contracts, and it instantly makes us a lot more experienced, talented and diverse in scoring. We'd have elite level scoring at 4 of 5 positions. Defense would suffer, but eh, it'd be fun to watch.
 


I'd take him for some of our garbage and one of the lesser first rounders, I'm sure they'd be all over that.


Neil Olshey on Meyers Leonard: " We have not been able to win with him on the court. He would be a player better off somewhere else."
 
Clippers are likely option A but I wouldn't be surprised to see CP3 bounce this summer if the Jazz or Warriors/we bounce them early, again. That would change the NBA landscape majorly.

The other team is Boston, I could see them throwing Brown/Smart/Brooklyn pick at New York for Melo, it would be the biggest win now move.
That's what I was saying. First they will lose Griffin and then to try and keep CP3 they will bring in melo and if they lose CP3 they will spin melo as a consolation prize to try and keep their fans.
 
That's what I was saying. First they will lose Griffin and then to try and keep CP3 they will bring in melo and if they lose CP3 they will spin melo as a consolation prize to try and keep their fans.
That's an interesting scenario, I just don't know if I see the Clippers doing that with their new ownership. I think if Griffin bounces they rebuild, and I mean a real rebuild. Have Doc "resign", let Redick walk, trade CP3, and build a team around Jordan (which seems odd but he is a defensive beast) and try to lure PG in free agency.
 
It's not like disgruntled players ever come to Portland and become better........oh wait!
 
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Melo...two things.....too old....too expensive....other than that he'd thrive playing next to Nurk in Stotts system...basketball would be fun again! There's still no way in hell he moves his wife to Portland....from what I've read she's New York high maintenance all the way......Dame's and CJ's moms are down to earth....Portland is paradise to them...to Melo's trophy wife....probably hell.
 
Turner, Leonard, ezeli, Memphis pick for Anthony.

We save roughly 2 million next year. They get a pick, a decent fit for the triangle in Turner, and Leonard.
trot out
Lillard
McCollum
Anthony
Vonleh
Nurkic

With crabbe, harkless, aminu, Davis our primary 4 off the bench.
 
That's a guy who would cost CJ, all our picks and then some to land
yeah but the Melo talk ain't cheap either and I didn't think we'd even get a call about Nurk plus a number 1 pick for Mason...stranger things happen..Porzingas is a game changer who's the right age.
 
Turner, Leonard, ezeli, Memphis pick for Anthony.

We save roughly 2 million next year. They get a pick, a decent fit for the triangle in Turner, and Leonard.
trot out
Lillard
McCollum
Anthony
Vonleh
Nurkic

With crabbe, harkless, aminu, Davis our primary 4 off the bench.

I don't think Melo plays the three anymore.... not sure if he CAN play the three anymore.
 
I don't think Melo plays the three anymore.... not sure if he CAN play the three anymore.
If he went to a team with a strong locker room I'm sure he'd get into better shape and be able to play the 3. If he wants to extend his career another 4-5 years he will need to lose weight. However in today's NBA he can play the 4.
 
I don't think Melo plays the three anymore.... not sure if he CAN play the three anymore.
I thought I read somewhere about him not wanting to play the 4, but that's even better.

Lillard
McCollum
Harkless
Anthony
Nurkic

Crabbe, Aminu, Vonleh primary 3 off the bench.

Lillard36/McCollum12
McCollum24/Crabbe24
Harkless30/Aminu18
Anthony 34/Aminu12/Vonleh2
Nurkick30/Vonleh18

Davis gets minutes at C when Anthony shifts to the 3 on occassion with Vonleh at the 4. Bring in a vet min replacement for Ezeli. Big body type C. Connaughton, Layman Napier play their closers roles.
 

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