On Carmelo Anthony's final act in New York, and why the Blazers should be his next team

[Blazer4ever]

He could get comps at clubs in LA, you know. For talent, we could not afford him unless Phil Jackson likes Turner, Aminu and Harkless.

Phil Jackson would trade him for anything.
The question is if he would waive the no-trade clause and if we really want him on the Blazers

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Phil Jackson would trade him for anything.
The question is if he would waive the no-trade clause and if we really want him on the Blazers

I think there's an argument to be made for a trade for 'Melo improving this team, but I doubt he would waive the no-trade clause, and I also think you overestimate the Knicks' desire to offload him.

 

[e_blazer]

I think there's an argument to be made for a trade for 'Melo improving this team, but I doubt he would waive the no-trade clause, and I also think you overestimate the Knicks' desire to offload him.

Or, perhaps, the Knicks' commitment to Phil Jackson as GM.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I think there's an argument to be made for a trade for 'Melo improving this team, but I doubt he would waive the no-trade clause, and I also think you overestimate the Knicks' desire to offload him.

The Knicks are going nowhere with him. They'd try to trade him but if I'm Phil Jackson I would even consider waiving him

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The Knicks are going nowhere with him. They'd try to trade him but if I'm Phil Jackson I would even consider waiving him

I agree that they're not going anywhere with him, but I'm pretty sure they still have an inflated sense of his trade value. Were it not for the no-trade clause, they'd be fielding pretty decent offers for him already. It's tough when the player holds all the cards.

 

[Minstrel]

They're not going anywhere with Anthony, but it's not like they're going anywhere replacing him with a worse player on a bloated contract or some waiver wire pick-up while paying Anthony's salary (if they simply waived him). I don't think Anthony makes them worse--he's just no longer the primary driver of that team, nor is he suited to be the primary driver of a team.

 

[Scalma]

Kenyon wants him to go to Portland or Washington, but mainly Portland. I don't know how to feel about it. Never been a fan but if it didn't cost us much, fuck it?

 

[rotary111]

Maybe if they throw in the 7th pick. Otherwise no.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Washington makes sense for Melo.

 

[KingSpeed]

I would love to get Melo if we keep our big 3.

Dame/CJ/Melo/Vonleh/Nurkic is a fun team.

 

[KingSpeed]

Washington makes sense for Melo.

But they're happy with Porter and Morris, right?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

But they're happy with Porter and Morris, right?

Porter isn't half the offensive threat Carmelo is.

 

[Scalma]

Porter isn't half the offensive threat Carmelo is.

Porter is a stud. Two way player. He's about to get a max contract. Washington doesn't need Melo.

 

[Scalma]

Harkless, Napier, Leonard, and one of our first rounders for Melo.

But I bet New York would prefer Crabbe and a first. Crabbe is our best trade chip outside dame, CJ, and Nurkic.

 

[KingSpeed]

Harkless, Napier, Leonard, and one of our first rounders for Melo.

But I bet New York would prefer Crabbe and a first. Crabbe is our best trade chip outside dame, CJ, and Nurkic.

That first deal is good for Knicks.

 

[Scalma]

I wonder what Carmelo's trade value is. Can't imagine New York getting anything close to "full" value.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Crabbe is our best trade chip outside dame, CJ, and Nurkic.

Go home; you're drunk.

 

[mook]

The Knicks only trade for guys who were really, really good 4 years ago. Unfortunately, that makes it impossible for a team as young as ours to pillage them.

My guess is they wind up trading him for Dwight Howard. I haven't looked at any numbers or read anything, but it just feels right.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The Knicks only trade for guys who were really, really good 4 years ago. Unfortunately, that makes it impossible for a team as young as ours to pillage them.

My guess is they wind up trading him for Dwight Howard. I haven't looked at any numbers or read anything, but it just feels right.

Maybe they'll trade for a player that was a young center with potential four years ago. Meyers Leonard could be right up their alley.

 

[Scalma]

Maybe they'll trade for a player that was a young center with potential four years ago. Meyers Leonard could be right up their alley.

Go home, you're drunk.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Go home, you're drunk.

That was fair; I deserved that.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I would love to get Melo if we keep our big 3.

Dame/CJ/Melo/Vonleh/Nurkic is a fun team.

I would trade for Melo, even though he's been a shade of his former self, for the chance he refinds his love and enjoyment of the game outside NY.
It would be very low cost compared to Melo's value a few years ago so I think it's worth the chance.

Of course Vonleh isn't the starting PF I would want with this team but he could maybe be a solid fit being a decent defender (which would be a weakness) and a player that works for others (setting screens etc) and doesn't need the ball.

Back to the topic, trading for Melo could seem crazy. He's been washed out for so long. But knowing Phil Jackson wants him out (which I understand) we could get him cheap and maybe be able to conform him and get him back to being a positive basketball player, which he hasn't been with the Knicks.
It's a bold move but if I'm the GM I'd do it

 

[trailblazer18]

If Melo could be Olympics Melo on our team, that would be awesome, but...probably not gonna happen.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

How about Melo and O' Quinn for Leonard and Turner. I think those are two players Jackson might like. They can give us their pick #44 also.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

How about Melo and O' Quinn for Leonard and Turner. I think those are two players Jackson might like. They can give us their pick #44 also.

Anything theoretically of value for Turner and Leonard would be an absolute steal.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I would do Turner, Leonard, Harkless, #26, and rights to to Diez for Melo and Noah. Noah may not be very good but would be alright as Nurk's backup. Then 15 would 100% have to be used on best big available and 20 on best defender available.

 

[BonesJones]

I would trade for Melo, even though he's been a shade of his former self, for the chance he refinds his love and enjoyment of the game outside NY.
It would be very low cost compared to Melo's value a few years ago so I think it's worth the chance.

Of course Vonleh isn't the starting PF I would want with this team but he could maybe be a solid fit being a decent defender (which would be a weakness) and a player that works for others (setting screens etc) and doesn't need the ball.

Back to the topic, trading for Melo could seem crazy. He's been washed out for so long. But knowing Phil Jackson wants him out (which I understand) we could get him cheap and maybe be able to conform him and get him back to being a positive basketball player, which he hasn't been with the Knicks.
It's a bold move but if I'm the GM I'd do it

Carmelo's decline isn't due to him not "enjoying the game anymore".

He's almost 33. He's declining. Its not gonna change.

 

[BonesJones]

I would do Turner, Leonard, Harkless, #26, and rights to to Diez for Melo and Noah. Noah may not be very good but would be alright as Nurk's backup. Then 15 would 100% have to be used on best big available and 20 on best defender available.

Noah is a worse contract than Turner, and Moe, Leonard, and 26 for Melo is not a good move IMO.