Once a fringe candidate, Paul shaping 2012 race

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http://news.yahoo.com/once-fringe-candidate-paul-shaping-2012-race-205132862.html

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Ron Paul, once seen as a fringe candidate and a nuisance to the establishment, is shaping the 2012 Republican primary by giving voice to the party's libertarian wing and reflecting frustration with the United States' international entanglements.

The Texas congressman placed second in a key early test vote Saturday in Ames, coming within 152 votes of winning the first significant balloting of the Republican nominating contest. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota won the nonbinding Iowa straw poll, but Paul's organizational strength and a retooled focus on social issues set him up to be a serious player in the campaign.

"I believe in a very limited role for government. But the prime reason that government exists in a free society is to protect liberty, but also to protect life. And I mean all life," he told a raucous crowd on Saturday.

"You cannot have relative value for life and deal with that. We cannot play God and make those decisions. All life is precious," he said, opening his remarks with an anti-abortion appeal to the social conservatives who have great sway here in Iowa's leadoff caucuses.

Later Saturday, Paul won 4,671 votes, or roughly 28 percent of the votes from party activists who flocked to a college campus for the daylong political carnival
Paul's narrow second-place finish pushed former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty down to third, leading Pawlenty on Sunday to abandon his effort to challenge President Barack Obama next November.

Four years ago, Paul sought the GOP nomination while talking about economic policy, liberty and the Federal Reserve. Since then, the tea party has risen and seized on those issues, and some regard Paul as one of the movement's godfathers.
 
Please.

Paul has as much chance of being our next President as Obama has of being honest- none.

So what is he doing? Possibly throwing votes away from the GOP if he actually runs for President. And, since any GOP candidate will probably "business as usual", maybe it doesn't really matter but I think pretty much all people think we need a change at the top.

I wish we had, on either side, a candidate that really understood the problem and that we need different answers to the same old problems.
 
The media trumpeted that Michelle Bachman won Iowa. After a couple of days I read a little and was surprised to find that she finished only 1% point ahead of Paul. Pawlenty was 3rd.

Headlines could have easily said, "Bachman and Paul in a tie."

If Paul becomes President, everyone will say a year later, "Where's that legalized marijuana I voted for? Did he forget the change he promised?"
 
Bachmann finished 152 votes ahead of Paul in the straw poll. It was effectively a tie, but a 152 vote win is a 152 vote win.

I'm more than satisfied that Paul's gains and having a Libertarian voice in congress is fueling growth of more Reasoned people running for and in office.

I wish he were 10 years younger. The only reason I don't consider him the ideal next president is that he's 75 years old.
 
its a shame that the best people for the job cant get elected
 
The media trumpeted that Michelle Bachman won Iowa. After a couple of days I read a little and was surprised to find that she finished only 1% point ahead of Paul. Pawlenty was 3rd.

Headlines could have easily said, "Bachman and Paul in a tie."

If Paul becomes President, everyone will say a year later, "Where's that legalized marijuana I voted for? Did he forget the change he promised?"

Unlike the herds of you that voted for Obama's "hope and change" message, the people voting for Paul are much more intelligent and realize he won't actually be able to accomplish most of what he would like to.
 
While Paul may not get congress to go along with steep cuts to many entrenched programs, there are things he can do as president and C&C.

Like bring the troops home, and not spend $hundreds of billions on foreign intervention.

Or when obama's appointees and czars routinely turn in their resignations, hire mo replacements.

&c
 
...he is the ONLY candidate worth voting for, period...end of story! If anyone else is elected, then it will be business as usual for the banking oligarchs that truly control and rule our country. They killed JFK for a reason :sigh:
 
Bachmann finished 152 votes ahead of Paul in the straw poll. It was effectively a tie, but a 152 vote win is a 152 vote win.

I'm more than satisfied that Paul's gains and having a Libertarian voice in congress is fueling growth of more Reasoned people running for and in office.

I wish he were 10 years younger. The only reason I don't consider him the ideal next president is that he's 75 years old.

He's almost the ideal president for me, aside from his age like you said and some of his foreign policy stuff.

Politics is still about who is the most charismatic and marketable, we need another libertarian from this generation.
 
You shouldn't dismiss things outright. It makes you a narrow minded person

I watch Colbert sometimes so it has nothing to do with party lines, he's just better. I haven't watched in a while though.

Since Stewart is a hardcore left winger kind of hard to take him seriously.
 
I watch Colbert sometimes so it has nothing to do with party lines, he's just better. I haven't watched in a while though.

Since Stewart is a hardcore left winger kind of hard to take him seriously.

He has a good take on the media's portrayal or lack there of Paul
 
He has a good take on the media's portrayal or lack there of Paul

He does, I agree with him on this point.

I was just fucking with him because that's what he does to everyone else. What goes around....
 
...he is the ONLY candidate worth voting for, period...end of story! If anyone else is elected, then it will be business as usual for the banking oligarchs that truly control and rule our country. They killed JFK for a reason :sigh:

Thank you for taking Yega1979's role on this board. I've missed that guy.
 
I went to this thread to post this--Politico noticed that the media dislikes Paul.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61412.html
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After reviewing the new posts, I'll add that Hueveonkiller probably has the smallest mind on the board. And it's been proven that Kennedy was killed by a CIA band. E. Howard Hunt taped hours of testimony admitting he was in the group, to be disclosed after his death. The media is still hiding it, but here's his son's website.

http://www.saintjohnhunt.com/testament.html
 
I went to this thread to post this--Politico noticed that the media dislikes Paul.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61412.html
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After reviewing the new posts, I'll add that Hueveonkiller probably has the smallest mind on the board. And it's been proven that Kennedy was killed by a CIA band. E. Howard Hunt taped hours of testimony admitting he was in the group, to be disclosed after his death. The media is still hiding it, but here's his son's website.

http://www.saintjohnhunt.com/testament.html

Lol ok, you're the one that doesn't know what our budget is, or why we're in debt.
 

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