One thing I've noticed

[julius]

about a lot of you.

After a loss, you guys act like we'll never make the playoffs (or at least this year) and will never be a good team. After a win, you guys act like we're a lock for the playoffs and will be a dynasty.

Would you idiots make up your mind? You make posting here and coming here real difficult.

 

[ehizzy3]

i agree. a lot of bi-polar fans. i think it has to do with it being the only team in portland. idk though

 

[The Sebastian Express]

about a lot of you.

After a loss, you guys act like we'll never make the playoffs (or at least this year) and will never be a good team. After a win, you guys act like we're a lock for the playoffs and will be a dynasty.

Would you idiots make up your mind? You make posting here and coming here real difficult.

It's pretty frustrating. Although I generally vent my frustrations about Nate after losses as I try not to do it after wins to not 'bring the mood down'.

 

[julius]

It's pretty frustrating. Although I generally vent my frustrations about Nate after losses as I try not to do it after wins to not 'bring the mood down'.

It's not so much about Nate, as it is about how fans will act like things are so horrible right now that the team lost against the Mavs.

 

[BatumKaboom]

Yeah that is how most Blazer fans are. Bi-Polor like a mu fukker

Good Beer + Die Hard Blazer Fan + Home Loss + Public Forum = Angry posts

 

[craigehlo]

I'm personally sick of fans that don't recognize troubling patterns in play. Win or lose. The Playoffs are an important goal for this team and it takes consistent, smart play to get there in the West.

I've been fairly pessimistic, even in wins, since the Detroit game. Since then we've been playing weak defense and rely on the jumpshot far too often. It's not quality basketball.

 

[ehizzy3]

It's not so much about Nate, as it is about how fans will act like things are so horrible right now that the team lost against the Mavs.

its freaking crazy, it was even worse when everyone was fighting. but still, we just beat denver! we arent falling off the cliff!!

 

[BlayZa]

there is no middle ground with 99% of this fanbase - its either overboard joy and overboard sadness..... i struggle with the vicious swings from extremes on the board too

 

[Mediocre Man]

I flat out all season have said we won't make the playoffs, or at least struggle to get there. I have also said we are a bad team all year even after wins. People bash me for it, but then alljoin me later in the year saying the same thing.

 

[VenomXL]

We're a "bad team"? I refuse to believe that. I would say that we're not consistently playing winning ball, but I wouldn't go that far.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'm personally sick of fans that don't recognize troubling patterns in play. Win or lose. The Playoffs are an important goal for this team and it takes consistent, smart play to get there in the West.

I've been fairly pessimistic, even in wins, since the Detroit game. Since then we've been playing weak defense and rely on the jumpshot far too often. It's not quality basketball.

Repped.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm personally sick of fans that don't recognize troubling patterns in play. Win or lose. The Playoffs are an important goal for this team and it takes consistent, smart play to get there in the West.

I've been fairly pessimistic, even in wins, since the Detroit game. Since then we've been playing weak defense and rely on the jumpshot far too often. It's not quality basketball.

Careful, Craig, if you don't sniff the nuts of the favorite player of every poster here, you're a hater. Doesn't matter if you're asking questions, making observations, asking questions, pointing blame, actively hating, etc.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Yeah, like Craig said that's another problem. For me personally when I try to bring up the issues that we have with coaching, or how Steve or Travis is playing - it isn't because I hate them and want them gone just to be gone.. I just want the Blazers to win. I think we can all agree that we want the Blazers to succeed and there is nothing wrong with having a healthy discussion about players flaws (I'm talking about rational discussion and not some of the OH MY GOD PLAYER SUCKS JESUS CHRIS BUST BUST WORTHLESS RETARDED IDIOT TRADE HIM WAIVE HIM HANG HIM BY THE BALLS! reaction stuff).

 

[bodyman5001]

Nate isn't going to magically become a better coach. The guy sucks, how many bad coaches are we going to get in a row? Paul's money can't buy everything it seems.

That is what I have noticed anyway.

The reason we get angry is that we don't lose like other teams lose, we lose like four year olds on Jeopardy. Outsmarted at every step.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Lets start a new thread on wether or not we will make the playoffs. I will go with No we won't. I base that on the west. We would make it in the east (again). But I just don't see that team that made it last year, not making it again. The Blazers and their fans need to foucs on battling to the end. But we are still relying on 3 rookies and the 4th needs some time too. we cam win 47-48 but that won't cut it. Without some major injuries from another team, it will be tough.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Nate isn't going to magically become a better coach. The guy sucks, how many bad coaches are we going to get in a row? Paul's money can't buy everything it seems.

That is what I have noticed anyway.

The reason we get angry is that we don't lose like other teams lose, we lose like four year olds on Jeopardy. Outsmarted at every step.

Eventually you will come to the conclusion that it's seldom coaching. You must be young. Most coaches in the NBA are all recyled. They suck somewhere and resurface somewhere else.

 

[bodyman5001]

Eventually you will come to the conclusion that it's seldom coaching. You must be young. Most coaches in the NBA are all recyled. They suck somewhere and resurface somewhere else.

That is really confusing. Who is seldom and should I capitalize his name? I must be young? Or do you mean the team? I know coaches are often given chance after chance after chance. I guess they must interview well or something.

I think you hit on a good nickname for Nate, Seldom. As in he seldom does something that would make one say he is a good coach.

 

[BalancedMan]

To be honest I don't watch that many games, so I can't complain about Outlaw like a lot of people, although I do see and understand Oden struggling.

It is kind of frustrating to me as well. I think the team is on the right track. KP is very good, from the SA school of basketball management. There are still some young pieces, and we're probably two years away from being a real contender for a title, although I think we can make the playoffs this year and win a series next year, both of which are good progress and achievements. Add to the fact that we may still be able to add a piece via FA or trade, and we're looking really good for the future.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I flat out all season have said we won't make the playoffs, or at least struggle to get there. I have also said we are a bad team all year even after wins. People bash me for it, but then alljoin me later in the year saying the same thing.

We're not a great team, nor a bad team, this is an above average team that relies heavily on finesse players ... but that's why I originally said we'd probably win 47 games or so this season. This is after all a very young team with one go to scorer and a lot of jump shooting role players and/or some underdeveloped big men (LMA and Oden).

The kind of fan meltdown we've seen was almost too easy to predict; scores of people predicting 56+ wins, challenging the Lakers for the Western Conference, etc., etc. Ridiculous.

 

[BatumKaboom]

I sometimes forget we are the youngest team in the league (minus Raef). Just goes to show you how important experience in the NBA is.

 

[MrJayremmie]

I sometimes forget we are the youngest team in the league (minus Raef). Just goes to show you how important experience in the NBA is.

For sure. If you look at the age of your rotation or our active roster, we are most likely the youngest in the NBA.

IMO, this team has only one direction to go and that is up. Our team will learn more from a loss, and need a firm kick in the ass to get going.

I am disappointed with Nate, but i'm not going to blame any one player. We win and lose as a team, imo. I think our team didn't play well enough to win, and there are a TON of improvements to be made.

 

[SnakeOiler]

Some fans act as if this were an election - take both wins and loses way to seriously. This is a game, experience will prevail. Lack of experience must live on skill and natural ability. The Blazers don't have the experience yet. If the blazers beat any top five team, its natual skill and abiltiy but NOT experience. When the blazers have experience, the bi polar fans will shut up.

 

[craigehlo]

When the blazers have experience, the bi polar fans will shut up.

Again, pointing out a consistent pattern of mediocre play does not equate to "being bi-polar," it's acknowledging reality. The sky isn't falling, but this team looks strikingly similar to how it ended last season which doesn't demonstrate improvement.

Is our defense better? Is our offense looking more organized? To me it's "no" on both counts.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Again, pointing out a consistent pattern of mediocre play does not equate to "being bi-polar," it's acknowledging reality. The sky isn't falling, but this team looks strikingly similar to how it ended last season which doesn't demonstrate improvement.

Is our defense better? Is our offense looking more organized? To me it's "no" on both counts.

It's also not the same team. 3 rooks getting heavy rotation minutes and/or starting minus the stabilizing effect that James Jones had (when healthy) = starting almost all over again. I do think this team has the potential to look substantially better and when they really get into the soft chewy part of their schedule in the next couple of months and that potential success has the chance to increase this team's confidence and improve their consistency.

Whatever happens (playoffs or no playoffs) this team is not going to be battling for a Western Conference title.

 

[craigehlo]

Whatever happens (playoffs or no playoffs) this team is not going to be battling for a Western Conference title.

Nobody disagrees with that. But I do disagree that players like Sergio, Frye and Outlaw are going to get us to that level no matter how much experience they get.

If you wait to make a trade until we are in position to compete for a title with the current roster, that day will never come. You need a trade to get to that next step.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Nobody disagrees with that. But I do disagree that players like Sergio, Frye and Outlaw are going to get us to that level no matter how much experience they get.

If you wait to make a trade until we are in position to compete for a title with the current roster, that day will never come. You need a trade to get to that next step.

If that's what you read from my post then I mislead you. I fully agree that Sergio, Frye and Travis (and maybe a few others) are not going to get substantially better with experience, but guys like Greg, Rudy, Bayless, Batum and even pillars like Brandon and LaMarcus (who have a couple of years under their belts already) all have a great deal of learning and challenges to face before they are able to fully exploit their prodigious talents on the court.

I do think this team could benefit from a trade for the right kind of player, and probably needs to add a veteran high level player or two (not necessarily all-stars scorers but more of the all-NBA first or second team defense variety) to help shoulder some of the burden on the court. Whether that player is acquired before the deadline or picked up in FA remains to be seen, but I have little doubt that KP and Tom Penn understand the team's deficiencies and will work to correct them -- we're mostly talking about the timetable, fans want it done yesterday, management probably wants to be a little more deliberate and patient.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I disagree that this team, as constructed, could not compete.

Our only blowout losses have been at the hands of LAL and BOS. They're widely acknowledged as the best two teams (i.e., ones we'll potentially meet in the WCF or Finals). Aside from 2 buzzer-beaters and last night's egg, we're undefeated and generally playing well at home. On the road we're holding our own.

When we're playing intelligently, and/or making our shots, we're quite good, and that's been borne out against teams like TOR, ORL, UTH, DEN, SAS, HOU, etc. When our "veterans" (NOT rookies) are playing unintelligently or uninspired, we get beat by teams like the Clips. Wiz, etc. in addition to good teams.

This team, if all they did was have the same effort as the Celtics or Jazz or Spurs 80% of the time would win 58 games. And that's with "young" players, with a stagnating offense, with little perimeter D.

It's not Bayless, Batum or Oden that's losing us games. It's poor play from our veterans and poor gameplanning/adjustments from our coaching staff. All of those are "fixable", whether through trades or a new game setup.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I disagree that this team, as constructed, could not compete.

Our only blowout losses have been at the hands of LAL and BOS. They're widely acknowledged as the best two teams (i.e., ones we'll potentially meet in the WCF or Finals). Aside from 2 buzzer-beaters and last night's egg, we're undefeated and generally playing well at home. On the road we're holding our own.

When we're playing intelligently, and/or making our shots, we're quite good, and that's been borne out against teams like TOR, ORL, UTH, DEN, SAS, HOU, etc. When our "veterans" (NOT rookies) are playing unintelligently or uninspired, we get beat by teams like the Clips. Wiz, etc. in addition to good teams.

This team, if all they did was have the same effort as the Celtics or Jazz or Spurs 80% of the time would win 58 games. And that's with "young" players, with a stagnating offense, with little perimeter D.

It's not Bayless, Batum or Oden that's losing us games. It's poor play from our veterans and poor gameplanning/adjustments from our coaching staff. All of those are "fixable", whether through trades or a new game setup.

Veterans? You mean Blake and Przy, cause those are the only two "veterans" (aside from Lafrentz) that this team possesses.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Sorry. I consider our All-Star, Przy, Blake, and Travis (6 years in the League) as vets. How is Blake one, and not Travis? And in my book, if you're one of the top 24 players in the league you're by definition a "vet". I understand that's subjective.

Two of those are playing pretty consistently well. Two are very on-and-off. When they're on, they add a lot to the team. When they're off, we lose. It's almost that simple. I don't think I can (though I'm open to someone pointing it out to me) pick one game this year that Oden, Batum, Bayless lost for us. I can pick a few that Sergio/Frye put us in the hole with with poor play. I can point out games that LMA seemed to disappear, or Rudy couldn't hit the ocean. I can pick out a bunch that Blake and Travis didn't play like vets.

That's what I'm talking about.

 

[MARIS61]

i agree. a lot of bi-polar fans. i think it has to do with it being the only team in portland. idk though

Or a bi-polar coach?