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wizenheimer said:
I don't know how brutal it really is

he was a last minute flip to Oregon, so his commitment was very likely a soft one. And he's not a 5-star on the 247 composite, which is the 'gold standard', he's a 4-star.

I'll admit, when he flipped to Oregon I wasn't as impressed as a lot of fans. I have watched some Hudl videos of him compared to videos of Akili Smith Jr. and honestly didn't see much difference...other than Smith being bigger, stronger, and maybe even faster. Smith was probably a little less polished as a passer and pure QB, but other than that, I was rating them about even as prospects. And yeah, I know, the recruiting sites don't agree, and sure I could be wrong

I think Oregon will be fine with Dante Moore, Smith, and Novosad. And now, the Ducks have a lot more NIL leverage in the transfer portal

https://www.maxpreps.com/ca/san-die...ith-jr/football/stats/?careerid=5bje1176ts6k4
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Those recruiting sites are most likely political and need to be funded in some way. I can’t imagine too many people pay the monthly subscription
 
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I’m so thrilled about Dante becoming the starter. I’m excited for a QB that can see and throw over the top of the line. Slants, or any pass through the middle of the field were pretty much non existent with Gabriel. 5’10” QB’s not really my cup of tea.
 
I'm bummed Sagapolutele isn't a Duck to be this fall as he truly looks like a special QB to my eyes. He really liked Cal but the draw to his dream school was too much so he committed to Oregon on signing day. What changed? Cal's starting QB entered the portal so the starting spot is his for the taking as a true Freshman giving him the opportunity to gain all important D1 experience. Watch him transfer to Oregon after his Sophomore year

STOMP
 
Taking the Ducks out of it for a minute -- how screwed up is the system where a player who has not even put the uniform on for a practice and just signed his LOI like a month ago can transfer. I mean he knew Dante Moore was a Duck but whatever more annoyed about the system then his decision. I wish the kid the best of luck except against the Ducks but cya
 
Predator said:
As I said

recruiting is painful to follow now
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Saying something again and again doesn't make it any more true.

Oregon has gained and lost from commit flips in this 2025 class cycle, but at the end of the day they're bringing in whats deemed by every recruiting site to be an elite class and are off to an incredible start for 2026. The flips to Oregon include many of the top rated kids in this class like Utu, Offord & Moore plus I sure didn't find flipping two 4* studs from UW at positions of need to be painful. With key additions from the portal at positions of immediate need it seems their talent level keeps going up & they look to be featuring a loaded and balanced roster again going into Lanning's 4th season. The big picture looks really bright to me.

STOMP
 
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STOMP said:
Saying something again and again doesn't make it any more true.

Oregon has gained and lost from commit flips in this 2025 class cycle, but at the end of the day they're bringing in whats deemed by every recruiting site to be an elite class and are off to an incredible start for 2026. The flips to Oregon include many of the top rated kids in this class like Utu, Offord & Moore plus I sure didn't find flipping two 4* studs from UW at positions of need to be painful. With key additions from the portal at positions of immediate need it seems their talent level keeps going up & they look to be featuring a loaded and balanced roster again going into Lanning's 4th season. The big picture looks really bright to me.

STOMP
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Sigh.

I didn’t say anything negative about the actual class. Of course it’s still great.

Fact of the matter is 20 years ago when I first started following recruiting when you signed a class damn near 100% of them were staying until they graduated.

Hell, as soon as we received the NLI it was cause for celebration.

Now, it’s hard to have that same level of enthusiasm since a guy could change his mind tomorrow.

As I mentioned with the Missouri kid who literally had state laws changed for him and he leaves the next year.

As I said

I’ll be curious - across college football - how many players actually graduate from the school they sign with.
 
STOMP said:
Saying something again and again doesn't make it any more true.

Oregon has gained and lost from commit flips in this 2025 class cycle, but at the end of the day they're bringing in whats deemed by every recruiting site to be an elite class and are off to an incredible start for 2026. The flips to Oregon include many of the top rated kids in this class like Utu, Offord & Moore plus I sure didn't find flipping two 4* studs from UW at positions of need to be painful. With key additions from the portal at positions of immediate need it seems their talent level keeps going up & they look to be featuring a loaded and balanced roster again going into Lanning's 4th season. The big picture looks really bright to me.

STOMP
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Let me know how many actually finish with Oregon.

The whole thing with flips back in the day was the fact you were guaranteed 3-4 years to develop them.

Now you’re not even guaranteed 3-4 minutes.

Hence why I say recruiting is brutal to follow. It’s not an Oregon thing. It’s a college football thing.

Alabama was jacked about getting Caleb Downs. Gone the next year.

20 years ago he would’ve had to ride it out.

Part of what made recruiting special was the fact that if you pulled in a top 5 class you’d be able to develop them over 3-4 years.

Now if they aren’t happy after a practice they could be gone.

Hence why I’m curious - once again - how many of these guys actually stay 4 years.

Texas AM pulled in the number 1 class and practically all of them transferred within 3 years.
 
Predator said:
I’ll be curious - across college football - how many players actually graduate from the school they sign with.
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I'm guessing it's over 60% based on this:

Only 1.6% of all NCAA football players ever make it to the professional level.

There are over 81,000 college football players in the NCAA and NAIA, according to the National Football Foundation (NFF). The NCAA estimates that there are around 77,000 college football players at NCAA-member schools.

As of May 1, 2024, there were 3,843 names in the FBS transfer portal, which is a record high. This number is higher than the previous record of 3,502 set in the 2022-23 cycle.
 
MickZagger said:
Jordan James to the NFL
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Derrick Harmon going to the NFL as well. No surprise as he has 1st round potential, and James, as a RB, knows he has a limited shelf life

I'd imagine Conerly will head to the NFL too
 
Predator said:
it’s hard to have that same level of enthusiasm since a guy could change his mind tomorrow.

Hence why I say recruiting is brutal to follow. It’s not an Oregon thing. It’s a college football thing.
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This is an Oregon football thread, so sorry that I thought you were talking about Oregon football. In general, I'm all for players having the right to change schools as they're more invested in this then us mere fans. I think for the good of the game it would be better if they could only hit the portal once in their 4-5 years of eligibility... maybe a 2nd time if the HC leaves. However, for this Oregon fan & I would think most, following recruiting has been awesome! Sure guys can come and go more freely, but the talent level keeps going up up up... not across college football, in Eugene Oregon!

If it's hard for you to be as engaged as you once were, thats fine. Find something else that excites you.

STOMP
 
NCAA Women’s D1 Soccer Transfer Portal Update……..
My daughter’s close friend just entered the portal and it took her form Spokane to Nashville. She is no longer a Zag and is now a Commodore? Is that Vanderbilt is? Anyway back to American football.
 
THE HCP said:
NCAA Women’s D1 Soccer Transfer Portal Update……..
My daughter’s close friend just entered the portal and it took her form Spokane to Nashville. She is no longer a Zag and is now a Commodore? Is that Vanderbilt is? Anyway back to American football.
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She must be a smart cookie. Its tough to get into Vanderbilt academically.
 
MickZagger said:
She must be a smart cookie. Its tough to get into Vanderbilt academically.
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Got to get all the Smart cookies you can get.
 
MickZagger said:
Those recruiting sites are most likely political and need to be funded in some way. I can’t imagine too many people pay the monthly subscription
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I have zero issue paying $100 for a yearly rivals subscription. The forum conversations are a bit dry as it's mostly a just the facts crowd, but some of the best insider info comes from those posters. I get to feed my Duck jones every morning over coffee and it's much better info then the hyperbolic free stuff one can get from bumping around. $100/12 = $8.33 a month or a shiny quarter & a couple pennies a day. For entertainment value, how does that compare to what you wager?

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STOMP said:
I have zero issue paying $100 for a yearly rivals subscription. The forum conversations are a bit dry as it's mostly a just the facts crowd, but some of the best insider info comes from those posters. I get to feed my Duck jones every morning over coffee and it's much better info then the hyperbolic free stuff one can get from bumping around. $100/12 = $8.33 a month or a shiny quarter & a couple pennies a day. For entertainment value, how does that compare to what you wager?

STOMP
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I have no issue with the recruiting sites or what people pay for them. I’m just willing to wager that the number of fans that do pay for those sites isn’t enough to pay the paychecks of the employees who work them when you can find out much of the information that’s given there second hand, on different channels.

Thus, they rely big on sponsorships and relationships making it more political in how they rank certain players.

I could be wrong.
 
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MickZagger said:
I have no issue with the recruiting sites or what people pay for them. I’m just willing to wager that the number of fans that do pay for those sites isn’t enough to pay the paychecks of the employees who work them when you can find out much of the information that’s given there second hand, on different channels.

Thus, they rely big on sponsorships and relationships making it more political in how they rank certain players.

I could be wrong.
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IIRC, ScoopDuck, the On3 platform has around 2000 subscribers. So, a little over $20,000/month in subscription revenue. There is also the revenue generated by advertising on On3 and Youtube. I have no clue how much that is annually. I also have no clue how much of the total revenue ScoopDuck generates is sent to the parent company. In any event, there would appear to be enough to pay a decent salary to the main moderator at On3 as a full-time job; as well as a couple of other contributors
 
rivals is the most conservative of the recruiting sites in handing out 4 & 5* ratings. Thus far for the next class (2026) they only have 14 kids ranked as 5*s... they are typically up to around 30 by the end of the cycle. Of those 14 currently rated as 5*s, 4 are already verbally committed to schools including TE Kendre Harrison to Oregon, leaving 10 who are still deciding. By my count, at least 7 of those 10 hold significant Duck interest having visited or announced a planned visit. Those prospects are ranked #1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 & 10... I'm not including #2 QB Ryder Lyons as though he's visited, the Ducks seem to have a clear preference for another QB, #4 Jared Curtis. They are also thought to have a good shot at flipping the #12 prospect WR Chris Henry Jr from tOSU

https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals250/2026?position=ALL POSITIONS

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