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dviss1 said:
They haven't arrested the kid because they are still doing an investigation. He is a minor. They're treating this correctly. What happens when you shoplift and you're a minor? Your parents get called and you go into their custody.

I don't think the kids will get charged with a felony because it's going to be hard to prove that they purposely tried to set the fire. I also never believe that children should be charged as adults.

The bottom line for me is that I hope these kids lives aren't ruined because of being stupid when they were 15.

I remember when I was 15 I was in Creston Park in broad daylight shooting at squirrels with a BB gun. You goddamn right I shouldn't have been doing that shit. The police came and drew their guns on me and everything. Had I done something stupid after the police came, I could have been killed that day. What did the police do? They took me home to my mother and I was grounded for over 2 months. The parents are going to pay enough for this already. I think the focus should be on what we should do to prevent forest fires because his smoke bomb could have easily been a lightning bolt.
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That Oregonian article basically confirmed my thought. They don't want to release his name because people are still extremely emotional and upset about what's happening.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I have talked to people who flat out want this kid's life ruined. People are really upset. I can understand why they don't want his name out there.
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Which is why we have a legal system that is supposed to protect the identity of minors who are suspected of a crime.

I'm not happy about the kid doing what he did and he definitely deserves a pretty stiff penalty (shit, his parents could effectively be bankrupted if they stick them with the bill), but this idiotic witch-hunt environment we live in now is completely out of hand.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Which is why we have a legal system that is supposed to protect the identity of minors who are suspected of a crime.

I'm not happy about the kid doing what he did and he definitely deserves a pretty stiff penalty (shit, his parents could effectively be bankrupted if they stick them with the bill), but this idiotic witch-hunt environment we live in now is completely out of hand.
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Well, the other thing is that he might have been the one to throw, but the witnesses say it was a group of kids. To me, they're all complicit in the act. Would this kid have done it if he was out for a stroll in the woods by himself? No. I knew a lot of destructive kids in my youth, and none of them did destructive shit by themselves. It was always showing off in a group of friends.
 
A young teenaged soldier in the Taiwanese army I knew got drunk on leave and hit a toddler killing the kid at 2am during a monsoon storm...he now is a bartender and he and his family have to give every paycheck for the rest of their lives to the victims family......this kid with the firecrackers will never be able to compensate for the fire......he'll go to juvie and be marked for life...
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Exactly, accidents happen. The kid(s) have to live with what they did for the rest of their lives... that's punishment enough.
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I wouldn't classify what the kid did as an "accident", criminal negligence or gross negligence is more like it. But yeah I still wouldn't kill'em.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, the other thing is that he might have been the one to throw, but the witnesses say it was a group of kids. To me, they're all complicit in the act. Would this kid have done it if he was out for a stroll in the woods by himself? No. I knew a lot of destructive kids in my youth, and none of them did destructive shit by themselves. It was always showing off in a group of friends.
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I don't know the kid but most of us did idiotic stuff as kids....even as adults.

Drunk driving for example. I did it once 20 years ago and what separates me from people who kill someone is pure luck.

Most people wanting this kid's head on a stake have probably done stupid things too.
 
Sometimes you gotta burn some shit to grow some shit.

Nature is a bitch, but only a second cousin bitch, not the bitch like me!
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, the other thing is that he might have been the one to throw, but the witnesses say it was a group of kids. To me, they're all complicit in the act. Would this kid have done it if he was out for a stroll in the woods by himself? No. I knew a lot of destructive kids in my youth, and none of them did destructive shit by themselves. It was always showing off in a group of friends.
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For the most part. There are always outliers.
I will never forget walking the trail through the woods everyday from the school bus top to my apartments in jr high. Many days there was this other kid from school, but he was always by himself and he was sniffing paint thinner cans he was stealing from shop. He would just sniff and watch us as we walked by.
I always wondered what his issue was.
Then three years later he had set a house on fire down the street from my apartments.
Turns out as far as I remember is that he was missing a card in the deck or something and ended up in a children's mental facility down here in the west hills somewhere.

Rare, but there are those few who truly have no conscious for whatever reason and want to see the world burn.
These ones should be locked( not normal prison) up for life or until completely healed...if there is such a thing.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, the other thing is that he might have been the one to throw, but the witnesses say it was a group of kids. To me, they're all complicit in the act. Would this kid have done it if he was out for a stroll in the woods by himself? No. I knew a lot of destructive kids in my youth, and none of them did destructive shit by themselves. It was always showing off in a group of friends.
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I think there are some who do destructive shit by themselves, but when they're in group it's magnified.
 
SlyPokerDog is an idiot and a libtard.
 
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Orion Bailey said:
For the most part. There are always outliers.
I will never forget walking the trail through the woods everyday from the school bus top to my apartments in jr high. Many days there was this other kid from school, but he was always by himself and he was sniffing paint thinner cans he was stealing from shop. He would just sniff and watch us as we walked by.
I always wondered what his issue was.
Then three years later he had set a house on fire down the street from my apartments.
Turns out as far as I remember is that he was missing a card in the deck or something and ended up in a children's mental facility down here in the west hills somewhere.

Rare, but there are those few who truly have no conscious for whatever reason and want to see the world burn.
These ones should be locked( not normal prison) up for life or until completely healed...if there is such a thing.
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Yeah like a mental midget snoflake. We know who we be referin too.
 
A 15-year-old boy has been charged for his role in igniting the Eagle Creek Fire in the Columbia River Gorge east of Portland.

The boy, who was not named by officials, was arraigned on a Juvenile Court Petition for five counts in Hood River County Circuit Court, a news release said.

The charges are reckless burning, depositing burning materials on forest lands, unlawful possession of fireworks, criminal mischief and recklessly endangering other persons.
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http://www.statesmanjournal.com/sto...enager-fireworks-charged-vancouver/781275001/

Was the punishment enough? I know a couple posters on here were asking for the kids head..
 
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