Oregonlive forum trade rumor

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
maxiep said:
I've thought this year a trade would be difficult to make because of the chemistry we've developed. I think that situation is particularly true with Batum. He may not have played consistently well, but he's our "glue" guy. Trading him would really mess with the way we play.
Click to expand...

I have been a HUGE Batum believer but I question that now. He's reached his ceiling and while he's an OK player I have become a little disillusioned with him. Deng is more aggressive and maybe that's what we need.
 
And by the way, I'm happy to keep Nic but he hasn't justified his contract IMHO.
 
If you run the ESPN trade checker, Batum gives CLE four wins and Deng costs us five.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Selected to the NBA All-Star Game in 2012 and 2013.
Selected to the NBA All-Defensive 2nd Team in 2011-12.

His injuries were an issue in the past, but he seems to be ok as of late. The biggest issue I would have is that he is a free agent in a few months. What are the odds that he re-signs? I am not sure he is worth the gamble. He is a damn good player. Better than Nic but if we lose him for nothing it would set us back. He will be 29 in April. That is not a problem. He has 3 good years left .
Click to expand...

A few big things is that he turned down 10m a year from the Bulls. He will want at least that much from us. The next big thing is that Batum is a much better play maker then Deng and Batum runs our offense almost as much as Lillard does, losing Batum would be HUGE on how effective our offense is.
 
Rhal said:
A few big things is that he turned down 10m a year from the Bulls. He will want at least that much from us. The next big thing is that Batum is a much better play maker then Deng and Batum runs our offense almost as much as Lillard does, losing Batum would be HUGE on how effective our offense is.
Click to expand...

Let's say this rumor is true. Let's further say the Blazers are actually considering it.

I wonder if maybe the Blazers brass is thinking that they have seen the best possible this team has to offer and maybe they think a Deng may make us more aggressive and give us a better chance for this year to go far into the playoffs. Then Deng can go and we will free up cap space and see what we get.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Let's say this rumor is true. Let's further say the Blazers are actually considering it.

I wonder if maybe the Blazers brass is thinking that they have seen the best possible this team has to offer and maybe they think a Deng may make us more aggressive and give us a better chance for this year to go far into the playoffs. Then Deng can go and we will free up cap space and see what we get.
Click to expand...

The FA market isn't that great this off season so unless the object is to do a lopsided trade we would just end up overpaying someone who isn't going to be as good as Batum if we let Deng walk. Trading Batum for Deng would be an idea I would be okay with if we had a legit backup ball handler in the second unit but we really don't. Mo is very inconistant and is more of a spark plug then a floor general and CJ its to early to tell what his roll really will be so if you take our Batum our Offense isn't going to be nearly the same and it will really leave us wanting for a player who can create for his teammates because we would be down to really Lillard who could do so in the starting unit and no one really to do it off the bench. Deng also isn't the greatest 3 point shooter (33% for career) and that something all our wings really need to be able to do in Stotts offense.
It would definitely be a "win now" mode move that would help us in the playoffs this year but I think hurt us as a team down the line.
 
maxiep said:
I've thought this year a trade would be difficult to make because of the chemistry we've developed. I think that situation is particularly true with Batum. He may not have played consistently well, but he's our "glue" guy. Trading him would really mess with the way we play.
Click to expand...
The thing is, Batum has been more consistent than many posters give him credit for. I've seen many games where Batum was given the task of focusing on facilitating and rebounding, or playing lock down defense, and after playing a great game, posters are busting his balls because he wasn't aggressive enough creating or taking his own shots, and even saying he had a crappy game when the opposite was true. Batum has been every bit as consistent as Lillard this season, IMO, they just have a different job to do.

And why would we need Deng's offensive aggressiveness in the starting 5? We have plenty of scorers. That's why Batum sublimates his scoring effort for the good of the team. To much derision, it seems.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Let's say this rumor is true. Let's further say the Blazers are actually considering it.

I wonder if maybe the Blazers brass is thinking that they have seen the best possible this team has to offer and maybe they think a Deng may make us more aggressive and give us a better chance for this year to go far into the playoffs. Then Deng can go and we will free up cap space and see what we get.
Click to expand...

Not a bad possible theory if that gives us cap space? does it? I know some of you are experts on this...where would we be at if we did not re-sign Deng?
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
I have been a HUGE Batum believer but I question that now. He's reached his ceiling and while he's an OK player I have become a little disillusioned with him. Deng is more aggressive and maybe that's what we need.
Click to expand...

No. He most definitely has not. That's like saying Aldridge reached his ceiling a few years ago.
 
I like Deng, and get frustrated with some of nic's passes, but feel like a straight swap would hurt us a lot more than help, because of shooting and passing. If we got more as a few others mentioned, I'd consider it, in a follow up deal. But wouldn't move them straight up.
 
BBert said:
And why would we need Deng's offensive aggressiveness in the starting 5? We have plenty of scorers. That's why Batum sublimates his scoring effort for the good of the team. To much derision, it seems.
Click to expand...

I am not advocating the idea of making this trade (If the rumors were actually true) but Deng's skill set would fit in as well. He is a better defender (Right now) and he also attacks the basket better. Which we lack. No doubt if he stayed healthy and was willing to re-sign.... that it would be an intriguing trade.
 
I spoke to a contact who is is familiar with Rudoy (Batum's agent). He said he had heard nothing and doubts any 1-for-1 deal involving Batum/Deng due to Deng's contract status.

Now he did say if Cleveland were open to a secondary deal (like what has been proposed) and if the Cavs were willing to include 1 of their many future 1st round Draft picks that they own that might start a discussion but he highly doubted even that would do it.

Cavs 1st round picks:

2014
2015 (could possibly swap with Chicaco....top 14 protected)
2015 from Memphis
2015 from Miami

:matrix:
 
Here's a theory: maybe Neil is creating buzz in order to lure Deng here in free agency? Now that would rock.
 
TBpup said:
I spoke to a contact who is is familiar with Rudoy (Batum's agent). He said he had heard nothing and doubts any 1-for-1 deal involving Batum/Deng due to Deng's contract status.

Now he did say if Cleveland were open to a secondary deal (like what has been proposed) and if the Cavs were willing to include 1 of their many future 1st round Draft picks that they own that might start a discussion but he highly doubted even that would do it.

Cavs 1st round picks:

2014
2015 (could possibly swap with Chicaco....top 14 protected)
2015 from Memphis
2015 from Miami

:matrix:
Click to expand...

You spoke to Batum's agent?
 
HailBlazers said:
Here's a theory: maybe Neil is creating buzz in order to lure Deng here in free agency? Now that would rock.
Click to expand...

And he's doing that by having a random person post rumors on facebook. My god, that is so evil it just might work.
 
BigGameDamian said:
You spoke to Batum's agent?
Click to expand...

No. I spoke to someone familiar with Rudoy who has had multiple conversations with him in the past. Was just getting his feel for the rumor since he travels in agent circles.

:matrix:
 
TBpup said:
No. I spoke to someone familiar with Rudoy who has had multiple conversations with him in the past. Was just getting his feel for the rumor since he travels in agent circles.

:matrix:
Click to expand...

Who is Rudoy?
 
really can't see Blazers having ANY interest in this unless there is some issue between Nic and players or coaches we are not aware of, seems like classic worthless BS as the deadline nears
 
TBpup said:
I spoke to a contact who is is familiar with Rudoy (Batum's agent). He said he had heard nothing and doubts any 1-for-1 deal involving Batum/Deng due to Deng's contract status.

Now he did say if Cleveland were open to a secondary deal (like what has been proposed) and if the Cavs were willing to include 1 of their many future 1st round Draft picks that they own that might start a discussion but he highly doubted even that would do it.

Cavs 1st round picks:

2014
2015 (could possibly swap with Chicaco....top 14 protected)
2015 from Memphis
2015 from Miami

:matrix:
Click to expand...

I wonder if a conditional pick would work. Say one of those 2015 picks (we sure as hell would not get their 2014) if Deng does not sign with Portland this summer.
 
I'm much dumber for having read the first 40 posts of this thread. Let's see how the next 40 go...
 
Last edited:
I do think trading Nic should be looked at

He's making over $11M this season to be little more than a really good role player. Meh.

This team as currently constructed isn't doing shit.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Further
Likely not a real rumor: Prince
2
Replies
58
Views
5K
Fez Hammersticks
Fez Hammersticks
D
Hey Former Blazer Forum Dwellers!
Replies
19
Views
2K
jlprk
jlprk
S
Interesting PHOENIX trade RUMOR
2 3
Replies
60
Views
5K
andalusian
andalusian
Ed O
Utah Jazz Dame Trade Ideas and Rumors
2
Replies
34
Views
2K
Everything Beagle
Everything Beagle
BigGameDamian
Notice Should the Portland Trail Blazers trade for Tyreke Evans?
2 3
Replies
81
Views
4K
DaLincolnJones
DaLincolnJones

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top